Four Gay NFL players might come out together

[Shakalu M.D.]

That doesn't happen that much really, and it isn't the same thing. I'm not talking about when someone gay is talking about their boyfriend or whatever, I'm just talking about when they talk about the fact they are gay everyday. It isn't like straight guys are talking about how they are straight everyday. See the difference? I don't think pointing out that fact is really hating is it?

I think it's interesting that you don't even notice that you're lumping all gays into one stereotype. Damn those gay dudes, can't believe they want to talk about themselves occasionally. What will the want next? The right to marry? Attention whores.

I don't hate bigots. I just hate when they lump one group together and judge them.


No actually, I hate bigots.

 

[pr26]

Over/Under on JK11 being in highschool?

 

[Walter White]

I think it's interesting that you don't even notice that you're lumping all gays into one stereotype. Damn those gay dudes, can't believe they want to talk about themselves occasionally. What will the want next? The right to marry? Attention whores.

I don't hate bigots. I just hate when they lump one group together and judge them.


No actually, I hate bigots.

Well no not really, I don't really think all of them are like that. Probably not even most of them. To be honest, I only know like three gay people total. One of them just acts normal and I respect that, and the other two constantly harp on the fact they are gay, and its clearly to get attention, and I'm just pointing out its annoying. They are younger though, so it probably has to do with some identity crisis or something, I really don't know. I don't hate anybody at all, and its just a vicious cycle of hate when the whole gay marriage issue comes up.

Maybe I have a problem with expressing the point I'm trying to make, I don't know. Its pretty much impossible not to offend someone when talking about the subject though so sorry if I did. And you can think whatever you want about me.

 

[Ruken]

Well no not really, I don't really think all of them are like that. Probably not even most of them. To be honest, I only know like three gay people total. One of them just acts normal and I respect that, and the other two constantly harp on the fact they are gay, and its clearly to get attention, and I'm just pointing out its annoying. They are younger though, so it probably has to do with some identity crisis or something, I really don't know. I don't hate anybody at all, and its just a vicious cycle of hate when the whole gay marriage issue comes up.

Maybe I have a problem with expressing the point I'm trying to make, I don't know. Its pretty much impossible not to offend someone when talking about the subject though so sorry if I did. And you can think whatever you want about me.

It's called being proud of who your are after been repressed and hated your whole life. If a gay person was to be out and proud and in you face about it, let them what do you think all the civil rights marches were. You don't think MLK was proud every day that he was black?

 

[Walter White]

Alright, somehow I'm comin off as some racist, homophobic, hating, KKK flag waving prick :chuckles: I should probably just stop talking. I swear I don't hate anybody and I'm the nicest guy you would ever meet. Alright, back to speculating on who the NFL players are.

 

[supergoat52]

Alright, somehow I'm comin off as some racist, homophobic, hating, KKK flag waving prick :chuckles: I should probably just stop talking. I swear I don't hate anybody and I'm the nicest guy you would ever meet. Alright, back to speculating on who the NFL players are.

I think there might be a couple factors at play here. I think straight people talking about being straight is such a normal thing to us that we don't even think about/mentally quantify it. Think of all the times a guy friend has talked about a hot girl, or girl a hot guy, or the million times you've heard women swear off dating men forever because being a straight girl is just too hard. When a gay person talks about being gay though, its a more rare experience, and so we are more apt to remember the times, and more apt to be annoyed by their repetition because it's less relatable.

Also, being gay does not mean you aren't annoying, and being gay does not mean you are a good person. But i think if we run into an asshole prick who is also gay its tempting to attribute those characteristics to the "gayness", while in reality that's not true.

 

[Walter White]

I think there might be a couple factors at play here. I think straight people talking about being straight is such a normal thing to us that we don't even think about/mentally quantify it. Think of all the times a guy friend has talked about a hot girl, or girl a hot guy, or the million times you've heard women swear off dating men forever because being a straight girl is just too hard. When a gay person talks about being gay though, its a more rare experience, and so we are more apt to remember the times, and more apt to be annoyed by their repetition because it's less relatable.

Also, being gay does not mean you aren't annoying, and being gay does not mean you are a good person. But i think if we run into an asshole prick who is also gay its tempting to attribute those characteristics to the "gayness", while in reality that's not true.

Good point. Well said sir.

 

[The Oi]

I'll jump in and defend jk11 under the assumption that we're talking about the same thing.

The ONLY thing that annoys me with gays is the same thing that annoys me with straight people...when their sexuality is their only identity AND they talk about it non-stop. I'm almost 30 now and I'm not impressed with guys who identify themselves solely by how much they drink, how much pussy they get, etc. It makes me uncomfortable honestly, because I've done a lot of both, and once you get past college...it's unrelatable for me when someone brags about it. Who gives a shit?

Same goes for gays. If their sole identity is being gay and it's non-stop discussion about their sexuality...it's unrelatable for straight people and probably makes them uncomfortable for that reason.

Anyone that's gung-ho and in my face about anything annoys me. Same goes for sexuality.

If it's used as an excuse or an irrational accusation of discrimation...also annoying.

What is NOT annoying is gay people fighting for their rights, living the lifestyle that comes to them naturally and being in love with someone that others think they shouldn't be in love with. Those are great things and things many straight people have had to do over the years as well. I'm glad to see that a group of people being who they are and receiving the same rights that my wife and I enjoy seems to be coming about.

 

[Shakalu M.D.]

I'll jump in and defend jk11 under the assumption that we're talking about the same thing.

The ONLY thing that annoys me with gays is the same thing that annoys me with straight people...when their sexuality is their only identity AND they talk about it non-stop. I'm almost 30 now and I'm not impressed with guys who identify themselves solely by how much they drink, how much pussy they get, etc. It makes me uncomfortable honestly, because I've done a lot of both, and once you get past college...it's unrelatable for me when someone brags about it. Who gives a shit?

Same goes for gays. If their sole identity is being gay and it's non-stop discussion about their sexuality...it's unrelatable for straight people and probably makes them uncomfortable for that reason.

Anyone that's gung-ho and in my face about anything annoys me. Same goes for sexuality.

If it's used as an excuse or an irrational accusation of discrimation...also annoying.

What is NOT annoying is gay people fighting for their rights, living the lifestyle that comes to them naturally and being in love with someone that others think they shouldn't be in love with. Those are great things and things many straight people have had to do over the years as well. I'm glad to see that a group of people being who they are and receiving the same rights that my wife and I enjoy seems to be coming about.

I tend to agree with you. Thing is, it's not just gay guys who do it. Straight folks can be just as annoying. It's the main reason I really disliked frat guys. That said, my freshman year I lived in the arts village. I was a film major briefly and thought it would be a good place to meet other film people.

There were probably more gays than straights in the AV, so needless to say I knew quite a few gay people. There were only a couple who were solely identified by their sexuality. Even the incredibly flamboyant gays I knew rarely brought it up. I saw far more of it from the obnoxious fratbags who sometimes tried to crash my parties.

 

[MoFlo]

The fact that people are seriously saying that it's very likely that a Browns player is gay because they support gay marriage is laughable..

Note: I'm not saying that there are no Browns players that are gay, but just because someone supports gay marriage doesn't make them likely to be gay...

 

[Walter White]

I'll jump in and defend jk11 under the assumption that we're talking about the same thing.

The ONLY thing that annoys me with gays is the same thing that annoys me with straight people...when their sexuality is their only identity AND they talk about it non-stop. I'm almost 30 now and I'm not impressed with guys who identify themselves solely by how much they drink, how much pussy they get, etc. It makes me uncomfortable honestly, because I've done a lot of both, and once you get past college...it's unrelatable for me when someone brags about it. Who gives a shit?

Same goes for gays. If their sole identity is being gay and it's non-stop discussion about their sexuality...it's unrelatable for straight people and probably makes them uncomfortable for that reason.

Anyone that's gung-ho and in my face about anything annoys me. Same goes for sexuality.

If it's used as an excuse or an irrational accusation of discrimation...also annoying.

What is NOT annoying is gay people fighting for their rights, living the lifestyle that comes to them naturally and being in love with someone that others think they shouldn't be in love with. Those are great things and things many straight people have had to do over the years as well. I'm glad to see that a group of people being who they are and receiving the same rights that my wife and I enjoy seems to be coming about.

Could you be my permanent translator?

 

[JSS2306]

It amazes me that such a small portion of anti-gay America is represented in the media. This country has moved on and these players need to come out so I don't have to see and hear about this shit anymore. It's one of the most annoying and immature topics we currently debate. I'll be glad when this is over because I couldn't care less about anyone's sexuality whether they "throw it my face" or not.

 

[Maximus]

I hope it's some high profile players and not some backup longsnappers or kickers. Aaron Rodgers would be great, but i think he just allegedly got engaged...so i doubt he's one of them. How great would it be if it was Urlacher, Ray Lewis, Gronk and Ndamukong Suh? :chuckles:

 

[Warren G.]

The fact that people are seriously saying that it's very likely that a Browns player is gay because they support gay marriage is laughable..

Note: I'm not saying that there are no Browns players that are gay, but just because someone supports gay marriage doesn't make them likely to be gay...

I don't think that's what folks are trying to say, MoFlo, but rather that because multiple Browns players have spoken up, it may be evidence that they've had a gay teammate whom they wanted to offer their support to. Perhaps true, perhaps not.

 

[The Hill]

The fact that people are seriously saying that it's very likely that a Browns player is gay because they support gay marriage is laughable..

Note: I'm not saying that there are no Browns players that are gay, but just because someone supports gay marriage doesn't make them likely to be gay...

I was the one who said it is very likely that a Browns player is gay, and after I posted it I regretted the way I worded it. But the legal brief submitted to the Supreme Court by Chris Kluwe and Brendon Ayanbadejo was supported by eight other players; half of them were on the Browns last year. Scott Fujita even went so far as to write an opinion column in the New York Times in support of gay marriage. (It is a great article, by the way.)

While not making it very likely that a Browns player is gay, it would not be surprising to me if one was gay and this was his teammates' way of showing their support for him. Either way, I think it's great that they're standing up for what they believe in.