Isaac 3 & D Okoro - A Two Way Playing Basketball Savant

[redscoon]

Only good news from Okoro in this series is that there is zero concern about anybody outside of here throwing money at him in free agency.

 

[buzzdog]

Only good news from Okoro in this series is that there is zero concern about anybody outside of here throwing money at him in free agency.

True, he's doing his bank account no favors. He deserves marginal role player money at best.

 

[B Mac]

I see nothing that Okoro offers that you can’t sign a vet minimum guy to do the same.

It would be a complete misuse of the cap to pay Okoro anywhere close to that amount, when teams find similar guys for a fraction every single off-season.

I posted this back in December in regards to Okoro getting a double digit contract agreement and I still stand by my belief.

As an example, would anyone here really choose Okoro at $15 mill a year over Oubre at the minimum?

I greatly appreciate his work ethic and he seems like a real stand up dude, but he’s unplayable in the playoffs if he continues to be petrified to shoot.

We really need to explore upgrading the bench, and Isaac is certainly expendable.

 

[mAo_mAo]

Is he Jimmy Butler yet?

 

[Smooth]

What you’re seeing is when you have no clear offensive system or no clear offensive plan to optimize players strengths, their weaknesses are exposed and their uncertainties drive their play..

 

[inliner311]

What you’re seeing is when you have no clear offensive system or no clear offensive plan to optimize players strengths, their weaknesses are exposed and their uncertainties drive their play..

This includes no real development plan to get players reps on the court to improve their game. Just giving minutes and see what happens isn't a structure to develop good players. For that alone is why I would fire Koby and JBB at the same time. At some point Koby needed to realize that JBB couldn't develop players. Now he is showing he isn't up for the task of being a playoff coach.

 

[Bob_The_Cat]

This includes no real development plan to get players reps on the court to improve their game. Just giving minutes and see what happens isn't a structure to develop good players. For that alone is why I would fire Koby and JBB at the same time. At some point Koby needed to realize that JBB couldn't develop players. Now he is showing he isn't up for the task of being a playoff coach.

There’s some truth to this. But it’s also true that if you go back and watch his high school tape, you see a guy who was scoring off straight line drives with one or two dribbles because he was a better athlete and stronger than his opponents. In college you saw the same. There weren’t big offensive flashes in his game or any type of demonstrated shooting ability. He’s always been a transition guy, and once he hit the pros he doesn’t have the necessary ability to beat guys off the dribble.

A different coach might use him better, but he also might just be a Matisse Thybulle and not quite as good defensively.

 

[kookoo]

Okoro is the JBB of players. He does some stuff really well but at the end of the day if you're relying on him to be a difference maker, that's your fault not his.

 

[BigZ94]

Lmfao who was arguing we deserved to pay this bum 20 mil? Better than Austin reeves etc? It’s nice to be right lol

 

[foucault87]

Lmfao who was arguing we deserved to pay this bum 20 mil? Better than Austin reeves etc? It’s nice to be right lol

25m

 

[Thelastcavsfan]

Don’t bring this man back. I’ve been his biggest defender, not shooting an open three isn’t going to matter who the coach is. Yes a new coach might give him more confidence and might this might that, but any real hooper with a shred of confidence would’ve pulled that shot. Unless he’s signing for nothing and he’ll be there 13th man.

 

[J_J]

It doesn’t really help if he’s just standing in the corner for 90% of the possessions. Banchero or Wagner who was guarding him was just resting all day defensively and cm a save their energy offensively.

 

[Rich]

The problem is he doesn't have the size to play in our closing lineup in the post-season.

He defends the POA super well. But it doesn't matter because the almost always much bigger player he's guarding rises up over him.

So you're looking at a guy off the bench who can't be a closing member most times with Mitchell and Garland due to size issues but he also can't handle the rock off the bench as a 6'4 guard?


Between he and LeVert, they both need to be turned into one taller player who takes their combined role.

Finney-Smith being the ideal target, I guess.

Either way, totally finished with Okoro here.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

The problem is he doesn't have the size to play in our closing lineup in the post-season.

He defends the POA super well. But it doesn't matter because the almost always much bigger player he's guarding rises up over him.

So you're looking at a guy off the bench who can't be a closing member most times with Mitchell and Garland due to size issues but he also can't handle the rock off the bench as a 6'4 guard?


Between he and LeVert, they both need to be turned into one taller player who takes their combined role.

Finney-Smith being the ideal target, I guess.

Either way, totally finished with Okoro here.

I think Okoro would be fine as a starting guard next to either Garland or Mitchell. He's just not good as a three next to both of those guys unless the other team is playing small.

So if we're talking off-season moves, it may not be Okoro that goes.

 

[Rich]

I think Okoro would be fine as a starting guard next to either Garland or Mitchell. He's just not good as a three next to both of those guys unless the other team is playing small.

So if we're talking off-season moves, it may not be Okoro that goes.

I mean I agree with this to a point. He'd even be fine off the bench if one of those two wasn't here.

But assuming they both stay, then I'm totally out.


That said, even if Garland got moved, Okoro's whole mentality needs a massive makeover to ever be a starting guard.