Kevin Love - Miami Ground Machine

[The Oi]

As someone who is on the autism spectrum, and whose husband suffered from depression a number of years before we got together, I had a lot of respect for it. Both men and women in our culture are expected to put on a facade of happiness all the time, but life has its struggles, and it's unrealistic to expect people to shove everything under a rug and pretend everything is ok all the time. That's not real life. Everyone has challenges, ups and downs, and varying coping mechanisms. Without any outlets for our frustrations, or people who can help us in our weak areas, we will blow up or burn out. I don't know when or why or how gradually America came to its unrealistic mindset, but it's not universal by any means. The Biblical patriarchs cried in some contexts. They tore at their garments. The Pauline churches were encouraged to build up one another. Rugged individualism is not a Scriptural concept. The American way has gotten distorted and confused. Again, not sure where our cultural expectations originated, but they're ridiculous, and they certainly don't trace back to religious faith.

Great stuff. Agree 100% that these are problems in society. And I dont know enough about other countries to speak about whether its a problem there or not. I believe there are solutions but people have to be willing to acknowledge that these are problems first and see similarities before differences

Media, which is designed specifically for constant absorption, is set up for division rather than the opposite. Bullying is a massive problem as well, and continues far past childhood and is accepted as part of culture. Social media is a mess.

A good starting point would be for society to continue to move toward a place where acknowledging our insecurities and suffering mental health is par for the course. I think many of the problems that we have with one another stem from general insecurity.

 

[The Oi]

Women are just as horny as men but a LOT choosier than men.

They don’t have the libidos men do.

 

[KevinLoveFan]

They don’t have the libidos men do.

Broadly speaking, you are correct, but there's always a lot of individual variation as well. If it weren't for my faith, and the greater cultural shaming of women, I'd be a raging porn addict trying to land every hot dude that crossed my path. Actually I was the former in my late teens and early twenties when I went away from the faith for a few years, and I would have been the latter if I wasn't autistic and nerdy. In fact I still want to kind of kill Mr. Love for that ESPN Body thing he did a few years ago...that mag is/was total softcore porn, and waaaaay too exciting for my own good!

 

[AllforOne]

They don’t have the libidos men do.

My wife would beg to differ with you.

I suspect the "women have lower libidos than men" statement is more a matter of women being told, for God knows how long, that they should repress their desires, that they should be submissive to men, and so on. Those messages are less now than they were 30 or 40 years ago, but they haven't gone away entirely.

If you disagree, I'd like to know why you think that.

 

[The Oi]

My wife would beg to differ with you.

I suspect the "women have lower libidos than men" statement is more a matter of women being told, for God knows how long, that they should repress their desires, that they should be submissive to men, and so on. Those messages are less now than they were 30 or 40 years ago, but they haven't gone away entirely.

If you disagree, I'd like to know why you think that.

Your wife singular. That’s anecdotal.

I’m also not telling women to repress their sexual desires. Kind of an odd leap.

I believe women are very driven to have sex, without a doubt. Humans still exist for a reason. If they didn’t want to have sex, we wouldn’t be able to propagate.

I also know women enjoy the hell out of it and many, even a high portion of them think about it a LOT.

I disagree that women on the whole think about it near constantly and are driven to have sex or masturbate as often as men do. They don’t have the same chemical makeup or drive that men do.

 

[2 For The Brew]

I disagree that women on the whole think about it near constantly and are driven to have sex or masturbate as often as men do. They don’t have the same chemical makeup or drive that men do.

Tell that to school districts across the country trying to keep their female teachers from giving students impromptu sex education lab electives.

 

[KevinLoveFan]

I think Oi's broader point stands. There are always exceptions to the generality, but the generality exists for a reason. When I was digging through free Playgirl galleries and all the other sites in the late 1990s and early 2000s to find all the hot studs, I was surprised at how much of the content was gay. I naively thought that, in time, more women would get exposed to porn and want to look up naked dudes like I was. That hasn't happened. I mean, we exist, but we're much smaller in number, statistically.

I was going to write something else, but my husband just hugged me, and I'm too excited now to write anything further.

 

[The Oi]

Tell that to school districts across the country trying to keep their female teachers from giving students impromptu sex education lab electives.

I’m not sure any of this proves that women have equivalent or higher sex drives to/than women.

 

[2 For The Brew]

I’m not sure any of this proves that women have equivalent or higher sex drives to/than women.

LOL you thought I was making a serious academic argument?

But ok, I'll make this a serious academic argument. Looking at your statement literally you are claiming that I've offered no proof that women have equivalent sex drives to women. I dont need proof; Aristotle "A is A" is sufficient.

 

[The Oi]

LOL you thought I was making a serious academic argument?

But ok, I'll make this a serious academic argument. Looking at your statement literally you are claiming that I've offered no proof that women have equivalent sex drives to women. I dont need proof; Aristotle "A is A" is sufficient.

Eh.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

I’m not sure any of this proves that women have equivalent or higher sex drives to/than women.

I think I see the disconnect here.

Obviously, women who are around you don't display that level of sex drive. But if it is myself, @David. , or @Lee , that's entirely different. They just can't help themselves.

 

[David.]

I must have read this wrong bc women have nowhere near the same sex drive as men.

 

[Lee]

I must have read this wrong bc women have nowhere near the same sex drive as men.

Depends on the woman, not sure what age you are fucking, but 30's to early 40's woman get sex crazed.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

Depends on the woman, not sure what age you are fucking, but 30's to early 40's woman get sex crazed.

Lee clearly farts pheromes

 

[Sebastian]

Vad i helvete?