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"Knee Troubles May Greatly Hinder Sizemore's Fantasy Value"

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News that Grady Sizemore has not yet been cleared for baseball activities and that he's having difficulty, pain, and swelling with running is a major red flag. Sizemore is coming off microfracture surgery on his knee. It's a long, difficult rehab and most worryingly, there's never been a procedure in baseball that would meet with most people's definition of "success." While some, like Brian Giles and Chad Tracy, have come back from the surgery, neither returned to their previous levels.

Sizemore is significantly younger and known for his speed and range, which makes this even more troubling.

The best comparable for this is a guy who hasn't had the procedure, but who might be headed down that road -- Carlos Beltran. Beltran missed a significant portion of two seasons fighting knee arthritis, but was able to avoid microfracture after extensive rehab and the use of a brace that limits the range of motion for the affected knee. It cost Beltran all his speed, a bit of power, but it did keep him healthy. Sizemore's pattern is also reminiscent of what was seen with Beltran before he was shut down in '09 -- Sizemore can run at 50-60 percent. When Beltran did that, he was fine, but as he got up to game speed, it was more problematic. That's something we see time and again in all sorts of injuries.

With Sizemore, it's too early to tell whether he's headed down the path we've seen before or if he could be the Amare Stoudemire of baseball. (The Knicks forward was the first truly successful microfracture in the NBA, though many have had it since with solid results.) There's reason to believe that Sizemore will see a significant portion of his speed gone, costing him steals and doubles. It could force him to shift out of centerfield, as well, prompting some lineup issues for manager Manny Acta. Both Michael Brantley and Shin-Soo Choo can play CF, but neither is a plus defender like Sizemore -- if Grady can be that again.

Watch to see Sizemore if can run with more intensity as we get into March. If he's not able to run hard, play in back-to-back games (or misses workouts after games), or has a more severe setback, alter your fantasy expectations for Sizemore down a lot.

At this stage, I'd cut the steals in half, if not more. Projections from ZIPS, the most accurate projection system over the last few years, has Sizemore going for 18 steals. That's the extreme upside. Even 10 might be too much -- and that's going to drop Sizemore down a lot of draft lists.

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/20...2/21/sizemore.injury/index.html#ixzz1EhjuTMOO



Granted, it's a fantasy baseball writer, but it's certainly not good to read. Hopefully Sizemore can be the "Amare Stoudemire" of MLB.
 
Brian Giles was 36 when he had the surgery done and was a career juicer. Chad Tracy was more of a flash in the pan than a guy who didn't return to prior levels- he never showed the kind of power in the minors that he did in 2005 and was always viewed as a high average, good pop 1B. Neither was close to being at the ability of Sizemore when Sizemore had the surgery. I also don't get the Beltran comparison, either, since Beltran had a completely different rehab approach that avoided surgery. BEFORE Grady had his surgery there was a comparison- but not now. I will still hold up Ellis Burks as the best comparison, as both shot their knee at the same age of 26, had almost identical skill sets, and both were high motor guys. Not saying Grady manages to play through the pain and produce like Ellis did, but there is hope imo.

And really, if the writer had done even a little bit of homework on Sizemore, he would have negated half his article- Grady isn't expected to start the year with the team, so why the hell would you watch for him to be running at game speed in March? We already know he won't be. If he coudl run at game speed, he would be in games. I think his prior two years of performance make him a later round pick at best, and I don't see how his performance in spring training would dramatically alter where you draft him in fantasy baseball- a low round backup OFer with potential is a low round backup OFer with potential, whether you spend a 11th or 20th rounder on them. Only a moron would take Sizemore expecting him to start at this point.
 
This is the only place talking about the "pain" and "swelling". All of the beat writers and other coverage has said that the rehab has been going well and he is just starting out baseball activities.

I don't think this is any real news in terms of the progress of his injury, just info we already knew about the history of this type of injury.
 
Looks like Withers has heard something on Sizemore similar to this story:

Tom Withers: Doesn't sound/look good for Sizemore. Probably smart for Indians to get it out there that it may take him a while to get back.

All I can think of whenever I see stuff about Sizemore's woes is that Sports Illustrated cover with Shapiro proclaiming that he is "undoubtedly, one of the greatest players of our generation".
 
Looks like Withers has heard something on Sizemore similar to this story:



All I can think of whenever I see stuff about Sizemore's woes is that Sports Illustrated cover with Shapiro proclaiming that he is "undoubtedly, one of the greatest players of our generation".

This guy is so done-yins it isn't even funny. He's been Hafner'd. Just our fucking luck.
 
Been telling people for like two years now that he is useless and will remain that way for the rest of his career.
 
Been telling people for like two years now that he is useless and will remain that way for the rest of his career.
Yup... Never believed in the hype this guy got... One of the more overrated players I have seen in some time... Not on the Ben Grieve level, but pretty close... Sizemore could at least play defense...
 
It's far too soon to write him off as "done"...the Indians taking it slow with him doesn't mean he's done by any means.
 
Yup... Never believed in the hype this guy got... One the more overrated players I have seen in some time... Not on the Ben Grieve level, but pretty close... Sizemore could at least play defense...

You must have missed 2005-2009.
 
I don't know the numbers but he was around .275 avg 22HR's 74rbi 140K's I believe.... Those aren't terrible numbers and I'm not suggesting he was a bad player... Just an overrated player..
 
I don't know the numbers but he was around .275 avg 22HR's 74rbi 140K's I believe.... Those aren't terrible numbers and I'm not suggesting he was a bad player... Just an overrated player..

I don't know if he was necessarily overatted. Maybe he wasn't putting up league leading numbers in any one category, but he stuffed the stat sheet and was a very good-great outfielder. I think a lot of the hype he was receiving was more based on his future potential as an offensive player. He was almost always batting lead off for the Indians so he never really had the oppourtunity to put up big rbi numbers. The thought was he would likely slide to the 3 hole in the lineup once the Indians found a decent leadoff hitter, and he would be capable of 40 HRs, 120+ RBI, 40+ SB, while hitting around .290. He was certainly a very good player when healthy and most saw his tools and work ethic as the reason he would become great. Obviously, injuries have derailed that.
 
I don't know the numbers but he was around .275 avg 22HR's 74rbi 140K's I believe.... Those aren't terrible numbers and I'm not suggesting he was a bad player... Just an overrated player..

This again? First off, who uses AVG, RBI and K's? Sizemore's OBP and SLG were very high, and he was 8th in OPS+ among AL players from 2005-2008. Combine that with legitimate gold glove defense at an up the middle position and you have an elite player. I don't get why people didn't consider him a leadoff hitter, when during that stretch he had a higher OBP than Ichiro. The guy was that good.
 
Why waste time arguing about how good this guy WAS?
 

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