LennoxLewis
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Imagine Delly with this new and improved Shumpert. Only reason I've been paying attention to them was because of Delly.
Shump is playing beyond his peak and it's not sustainable.
Delly doesn't fit with the Bucks. They will soon want him to be traded or benched for Brogdon.
Delly is a backup PG that comes in and hustles like crazy, he doesn't do that with the Bucks it seems.
Should have been a Cavalier for life, it's a damn shame.. really fucking stupid Gilbert.
Him missing from this team makes watching much less fun for me(I was eagerly waiting for the bench squad to enter the game every game, some times I liked watching them better than the starting lineup but this year, well, I can't stand watching the bench squad.). His hustle and grit is sorely missed.
I wanted to root for him on the Bucks but I can't.
K.
Parker is 21, I'm not sure why you're putting a low ceiling on a guy scoring a very efficient 19+ a game. I view him very differently than you do.
Add in a healthy Middleton and yea, I think they're a threat. Soon.
EDIT: As yourself this, and be honest. If Jabari were on the Cavs would you think the same? That it's not likely that he become a top 30 player? Or would you have a slightly rosier picture?
MIN: 28.3
PTS: 7.7
AST: 5.7
FG : .373%
3PT: .319%
+/-: -0.1
Yall are ruining Delly, Give him back you assholes we'll give you McRae he a professional scorer
Bill Simmons and Joe House were just talking about how bad Delly has been this season and how he's holding the Bucks back.
Holy shit the Joe House?
I'm not saying he's an expert. Just saying that they were talking about what @K1rieIrving>AllOtherPG's was describing
K.
I don't think it's a "low ceiling". He can be an all-star, a very good and efficient scorer, etc, and all of those things without necessarily being a top 20-30 player.
The one thing in his favor is that he is a perfect small-ball 4 in the current NBA. I think he is a mediocre rebounder at best, a medicore passer at best, and a mediocre defender at best. However, he fits well on that Milwaukee team where they dont necessarily need him to do all of those other things. He landed in a really good spot. And if he ends up a great shooter, it will make up for a lot of that. But I also think that being a good scorer/small-ball four with all of those other weaknesses is what limits his ceiling in terms of overall ranking and in terms of threatening the Cavs, because he's going to need to be elite to help Milwaukee threaten the Cavs as early as next year.
Now, if he ends up being a total monster 25 PPG super efficient small-ball 4 with above average athleticism and can stay healthy, then his ceiling is higher than I thought and I will be proven wrong, we'll see if he ever gets to that point.
Maybe the definition of "threat" is something we should decide on in this conversation.
Is Toronto a "threat"? I'd have a hard time saying yes, but objectively I guess you'd have to say they are. But Toronto needs to add a major talent or the Cavs have to lose a major step for them to be a realistic threat. The same goes for the Bucks. Even with Middleton, they need to add a major talent or the Cavs have to lose a major step for them to be a real threat. Neither situation is impossible, of course, but the Bucks have a long way to go to even be a threat to the Raptors. I think the Cavs just showed that when the Cavs are focused, when they want to, they can turn it on and set Milwauee down. Even with Love and Smith on the bench.
I really like Jabari. I really do. Maybe I'd be more optimistic if he were a Cav, but he has a lot of weaknesses and the NBA is deeper than ever. Think of the top 20-30 players in the league right now. That's a seriously fucking awesome list of players. Even if Jabari is the 37th best player in the league in 3 years, that means he's probably really really fricken good!
I'd like to renew my objection as it relates to your take on Jabari as he continues to elevate his game.
Also, the difference between Toronto and the problems Milwaukee potentially poses is Giannis. Pretty simple. He'll be way, way better than any player Toronto has managed to trot out there the last 3 years. A real, true, superstar.
You're surprised that Bill Simmons thinks someone who plays outside NY, Bos, Chicago LA or Miami sucks?Holy shit the Joe House?
Delly for Dunleavy, who says no?