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@WellYouNeednt asked if someone can pick for the Chiefs, so here it goes..
With the 59th pick in the 2017 RCF NFL Mock Draft,
the Kansas City Chiefs select.....
Cordrea Tankersley, CB, Clemson
The Chiefs need help aside Marcus Peters in the secondary. Cordrea is likely the best CB available at this point, so the Chiefs seize the opportunity. He's a bigger CB who was tremendous in college; however, he'll need to work on some mechanics to be able to keep that reputation in the NFL.
OVERVIEW
Cordrea (pronounced cohr-DRAY) got his nickname "Tootie" from his older brother Codarius, who repeated the word several times after seeing his young sibling for the first time. The name stuck from there, in the same manner that Tankersley sticks to receivers in coverage. He struggled to find time in the secondary in his first two seasons, primarily playing on special teams (13 tackles in 2013; 11 tackles in 2014) as the Tigers' veteran defensive backs ruled the depth chart. Once his opportunity arose, Tankersley took full advantage, garnering third-team All-ACC notice after leading Clemson with five interceptions (one returned for a score) and nine pass breakups. He was a first-team all-conference pick and third-team Associated Press All-American for his efforts in the Tigers' national championship season of 2016, intercepting four more passes and breaking up a team-high 11 throws.
ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS
Angular build with good length. Looks to harass and smother receiver for as long as he can. Runs with access to a second gear when needed. Two-year starter with experience in a variety of coverages. Disruptive at the catch point using full arm extension to maximize his length. Ball production was very good; had eight interceptions in just two years as a starter. Shut down Virginia Tech's Bucky Hodges in conference championship game, holding him to one catch and grabbing two interceptions. Soft hands will pluck it out of the air if he gets into position. Gets desired depth in Cover-2 responsibilities, balancing between high and low. Comes to balance and squares up as a tackler. Looks to tackle low and springs into ball carriers with aggressive shoulder aimed at their thighs.
WEAKNESSES
Anticipation and instincts slightly below average. Eyes are unsure and can be slow to process and react. Lacks bend in his backpedal and bail techniques. Struggles to sink and redirect quickly for transitions forward against comeback routes. Allows too much route separation from off coverage and will need to squeeze tighter on next level. Balance concerns in coverage. Feet and hips can be clunky when it's time to open and run out of press shuffle. Will panic when he gets behind on vertical routes and starts to grab. Had eight pass-interference calls against him in two season. Inconsistent in finding the ball when back is to the quarterback. Needs to add more muscle to frame.
NFL COMPARISON
Dre Kirkpatrick
BOTTOM LINE
Has an impressive body of work as a lockdown, boundary cornerback but he has some holes in his transitions that could open the door for more separation on the next level. While he's not always the most fluid in coverage, his 6-foot-1 frame and eight interceptions will be the two numbers some teams will focus heavily on. If he runs well at pre-draft workouts, his stock could soar thanks to his size and production.
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With the 59th pick in the 2017 RCF NFL Mock Draft,
the Kansas City Chiefs select.....
Cordrea Tankersley, CB, Clemson
The Chiefs need help aside Marcus Peters in the secondary. Cordrea is likely the best CB available at this point, so the Chiefs seize the opportunity. He's a bigger CB who was tremendous in college; however, he'll need to work on some mechanics to be able to keep that reputation in the NFL.
OVERVIEW
Cordrea (pronounced cohr-DRAY) got his nickname "Tootie" from his older brother Codarius, who repeated the word several times after seeing his young sibling for the first time. The name stuck from there, in the same manner that Tankersley sticks to receivers in coverage. He struggled to find time in the secondary in his first two seasons, primarily playing on special teams (13 tackles in 2013; 11 tackles in 2014) as the Tigers' veteran defensive backs ruled the depth chart. Once his opportunity arose, Tankersley took full advantage, garnering third-team All-ACC notice after leading Clemson with five interceptions (one returned for a score) and nine pass breakups. He was a first-team all-conference pick and third-team Associated Press All-American for his efforts in the Tigers' national championship season of 2016, intercepting four more passes and breaking up a team-high 11 throws.
ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS
Angular build with good length. Looks to harass and smother receiver for as long as he can. Runs with access to a second gear when needed. Two-year starter with experience in a variety of coverages. Disruptive at the catch point using full arm extension to maximize his length. Ball production was very good; had eight interceptions in just two years as a starter. Shut down Virginia Tech's Bucky Hodges in conference championship game, holding him to one catch and grabbing two interceptions. Soft hands will pluck it out of the air if he gets into position. Gets desired depth in Cover-2 responsibilities, balancing between high and low. Comes to balance and squares up as a tackler. Looks to tackle low and springs into ball carriers with aggressive shoulder aimed at their thighs.
WEAKNESSES
Anticipation and instincts slightly below average. Eyes are unsure and can be slow to process and react. Lacks bend in his backpedal and bail techniques. Struggles to sink and redirect quickly for transitions forward against comeback routes. Allows too much route separation from off coverage and will need to squeeze tighter on next level. Balance concerns in coverage. Feet and hips can be clunky when it's time to open and run out of press shuffle. Will panic when he gets behind on vertical routes and starts to grab. Had eight pass-interference calls against him in two season. Inconsistent in finding the ball when back is to the quarterback. Needs to add more muscle to frame.
NFL COMPARISON
Dre Kirkpatrick
BOTTOM LINE
Has an impressive body of work as a lockdown, boundary cornerback but he has some holes in his transitions that could open the door for more separation on the next level. While he's not always the most fluid in coverage, his 6-foot-1 frame and eight interceptions will be the two numbers some teams will focus heavily on. If he runs well at pre-draft workouts, his stock could soar thanks to his size and production.
@Stark and the Cowboys are up next.
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Dallas is taking Tyus Bowser, OLB from Houston. Write up will come later.
@CosmoKramer and da Bears are on the clock.
@CosmoKramer and da Bears are on the clock.
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Well I am ready to pick, just waiting.... Lol
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With the 61st pick of the 2017 RCF Mock Draft the Chicago Bears select...
Quincy Wilson, CB, Florida
HtWt: 6'1'' - 211 lbs.
College: Florida
ESPN Rank: #29 - 88/100 grade
NFLN Rank: #31 - 5.79 grade
CBS Rank: #50
My Take:
Chicago adds another corner this offseason, joining Prince Amukamara and Marcus Cooper to hopefully upgrade a weak position group. '15 first round pick Kyle Fuller played well as a rookie, but missed all of last season after a routine knee scope kept him sidelined. 32-year-old Tracy Porter is the other incumbent starter, which is not great in a division with Aaron Rodgers and Matt Stafford.
Wilson can be a little grabby, but he excels in both press man and zone. He's got excellent ball skills, and he's a two-year starter that also got some starts as a true freshman. Still young (turning 21 this year) he's got all the skills to develop into an impact player in time.
Stats to know: Allowed an NFL passer rating of just 29.9 on throws into his coverage in 2016.
What he does best:
- Willing to gamble and break on the ball, and had three interceptions in 2016, despite being targeted just 49 times.
- Good movement skills for his size. Closes on the ball quickly and can mirror receivers early in the route.
- Often runs comebacks as well as the wide receiver.
- Plays the deep ball well, stays on top of the route and can make a play on the ball.
- Does not get beat often. Gave up 16, 25 and 16 catches in each of the past three years. In total, he gave up just 616 yards on passes thrown into his coverage between 2014 and 2016 (he did benefit somewhat from inaccurate quarterbacks).
- Loves to get physical and press wide receivers. At his best when he can jam the WR off the snap.
- Reads and reacts very well against screen. Can come up and make tackles close to, or behind, the line of scrimmage.
- Just didn’t allow much production from wide receivers against him. Allowed an NFL passer rating of just 29.9 on throws into his coverage throughout 2016.
- One flaw in his ability to jam receivers at the line of scrimmage is getting beat inside. Had numerous plays, resulting in both completions and incompletions, where he lost the receiver on an inside move.
- Will have to improve at being subtler with contact in the NFL. Physical to the point that he blurs the line on what would be flagged in the NFL. Was flagged five times in 2016.
- Can get a little bit lost in off coverage at times. 77 of the 227 yards he allowed last year came on plays where he looked to switch off.
- Will lose receivers at intermediate level. Struggled somewhat against post routes, giving up 61 yards on throws into his coverage, and being saved on another potential big play by a drop by the receiver.
- Has never seen extensive playing time at any position other than right cornerback in his time at Florida.
- Gambles often. Paid off for him at Florida but there were times where he got lucky. Against better quarterbacks and receivers in the NFL, that could backfire.
Whether or not Wilson can make an impact in the NFL early in his career like Peters did remains a big question mark, but like Peters he is more than willing to gamble to try and make a big play. That led to nine interceptions from Peters as a rookie, but also saw him 1,057 yards on throws into his coverage.
Bottom line: Wilson is a gambler and that’s more than likely to see big plays, both good and bad, on his NFL highlight reel. In a very strong cornerback class, he likely sees his value pushed down and out of the first round, but at worst you would expect to hear his name called on Day 2, and he has a chance to be a Day 1 starter in the NFL.
2017 Bears Draft Class:
3- Jonathan Allen, DE, Alabama
29- DeShaun Watson, QB, Clemson
36- Tim Williams, OLB, Alabama
61- Quincy Wilson, CB, Florida
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With the 62nd pick the Pittsburgh Steelers select:
Carl Lawson (DE)
HT: 6'2" WT: 261LBS.
POSITION: DE
SCHOOL: Auburn
ARM LENGTH: 31 1/2"
HANDS: 10 3/8"
Overview
After struggling to stay on the field for a couple of seasons, Lawson came through with the effort everyone expected in 2016. The first-team All-SEC selection had 13.5 tackles for loss including nine sacks for the Tigers in his junior year. This production was anticipated by Auburn coaches in 2014 after Lawson was a Freshman All-American the previous season (7.5 tackles for loss, four sacks, two forced fumbles). He injured his left knee (ACL) in the spring, however, forcing him to take a medical redshirt. The following year he was named a team captain but again missed half of the year with a hip injury, managing just one sack in seven games. Lawson went through the Senior Day ceremony with his classmates this fall, knowing his college career was coming to an end.
COMBINE STATS
ANALYSIS
Strengths
Well-built with good muscular definition. Strong upper body. Has crisp, sharp hands. Able to strike and release to shed tight ends quickly. Aggressive setting edge and works with maxed-out arm extension after punch. Fights through down blocks from tight ends and receivers to string outside runs to the sideline. Could play standing up or with a hand on the ground. Has NFL power and aggressiveness. Explosive get-off with some heat in his feet over first two steps upfield. Good forward lean into his rush. Slaps and chops at tackle's punch to soften the edge. Takes tight, linear track to quarterback with big close-out burst once he turns the corner. Experience rushing from interior-line spot and stand-up inside backer. Finesse tackles will struggle to handle his speed-to-power bursts.
Weaknesses
Injuries have side-tracked playing time and production over the years. Missed 2014 with ACL tear and six games in 2015 with hip injury. Face-up rusher who struggles to get hip flip or shoulder turn at the top of his rush. Takes predictable tracks in his pass rushes and gets stuck on blocks. Needs creative rush attack with legitimate counters. Hips are tight and restrictive in lower half. Needs better knee bend throughout the rep. His momentum is sometimes too much to overcome. Washed up and around the arc and unable to drop anchor and take a stand. Poor tackle production. Pursuit is too measured and uneven. Below-average lateral agility limits tackle radius. Too content to ride out the edges he sets rather than looking to eat as tackler.
NFL Comparison
Owamagbe Odighizuwa
Bottom Line
Linear player with natural power and aggressiveness, but a lack of flexibility could hamper his potential as an NFL rusher. Lawson's twitch shows up in short, controlled bursts, but he struggles to finish if the play isn't right in front of him. Lawson's ruffneck demeanor will appeal to teams looking for an aggressive edge-setter along a physical front, but his draft grade could vary quite a bit from team to team.
Carl Lawson (DE)
HT: 6'2" WT: 261LBS.
POSITION: DE
SCHOOL: Auburn
ARM LENGTH: 31 1/2"
HANDS: 10 3/8"
Overview
After struggling to stay on the field for a couple of seasons, Lawson came through with the effort everyone expected in 2016. The first-team All-SEC selection had 13.5 tackles for loss including nine sacks for the Tigers in his junior year. This production was anticipated by Auburn coaches in 2014 after Lawson was a Freshman All-American the previous season (7.5 tackles for loss, four sacks, two forced fumbles). He injured his left knee (ACL) in the spring, however, forcing him to take a medical redshirt. The following year he was named a team captain but again missed half of the year with a hip injury, managing just one sack in seven games. Lawson went through the Senior Day ceremony with his classmates this fall, knowing his college career was coming to an end.
COMBINE STATS
- 40 YARD DASH: 4.67 SEC
- BENCH PRESS: 35 REPS
- VERTICAL JUMP: 33.0 INCH
- BROAD JUMP: 114.0 INCH
- 3 CONE DRILL: 7.46 SEC
- 20 YARD SHUTTLE: 4.19 SEC
ANALYSIS
Strengths
Well-built with good muscular definition. Strong upper body. Has crisp, sharp hands. Able to strike and release to shed tight ends quickly. Aggressive setting edge and works with maxed-out arm extension after punch. Fights through down blocks from tight ends and receivers to string outside runs to the sideline. Could play standing up or with a hand on the ground. Has NFL power and aggressiveness. Explosive get-off with some heat in his feet over first two steps upfield. Good forward lean into his rush. Slaps and chops at tackle's punch to soften the edge. Takes tight, linear track to quarterback with big close-out burst once he turns the corner. Experience rushing from interior-line spot and stand-up inside backer. Finesse tackles will struggle to handle his speed-to-power bursts.
Weaknesses
Injuries have side-tracked playing time and production over the years. Missed 2014 with ACL tear and six games in 2015 with hip injury. Face-up rusher who struggles to get hip flip or shoulder turn at the top of his rush. Takes predictable tracks in his pass rushes and gets stuck on blocks. Needs creative rush attack with legitimate counters. Hips are tight and restrictive in lower half. Needs better knee bend throughout the rep. His momentum is sometimes too much to overcome. Washed up and around the arc and unable to drop anchor and take a stand. Poor tackle production. Pursuit is too measured and uneven. Below-average lateral agility limits tackle radius. Too content to ride out the edges he sets rather than looking to eat as tackler.
NFL Comparison
Owamagbe Odighizuwa
Bottom Line
Linear player with natural power and aggressiveness, but a lack of flexibility could hamper his potential as an NFL rusher. Lawson's twitch shows up in short, controlled bursts, but he struggles to finish if the play isn't right in front of him. Lawson's ruffneck demeanor will appeal to teams looking for an aggressive edge-setter along a physical front, but his draft grade could vary quite a bit from team to team.
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To me Lawson was the guy who has had injuries, but when he played he has been good and has it seems a good character makeup being named a team captain. Now he is a bit of a gamble, but with the type of system the Steelers have in place, I think he could be a good fit.
To me Lawson was the guy who has had injuries, but when he played he has been good and has it seems a good character makeup being named a team captain. Now he is a bit of a gamble, but with the type of system the Steelers have in place, I think he could be a good fit.
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Gotta think the Bears would be doing backflips over this draft.
With the 61st pick of the 2017 RCF Mock Draft the Chicago Bears select...
Quincy Wilson, CB, Florida
HtWt: 6'1'' - 211 lbs.
College: Florida
ESPN Rank: #29 - 88/100 grade
NFLN Rank: #31 - 5.79 grade
CBS Rank: #50
My Take:
Chicago adds another corner this offseason, joining Prince Amukamara and Marcus Cooper to hopefully upgrade a weak position group. '15 first round pick Kyle Fuller played well as a rookie, but missed all of last season after a routine knee scope kept him sidelined. 32-year-old Tracy Porter is the other incumbent starter, which is not great in a division with Aaron Rodgers and Matt Stafford.
Wilson can be a little grabby, but he excels in both press man and zone. He's got excellent ball skills, and he's a two-year starter that also got some starts as a true freshman. Still young (turning 21 this year) he's got all the skills to develop into an impact player in time.
Stats to know: Allowed an NFL passer rating of just 29.9 on throws into his coverage in 2016.
What he does best:
Biggest concern:
- Willing to gamble and break on the ball, and had three interceptions in 2016, despite being targeted just 49 times.
- Good movement skills for his size. Closes on the ball quickly and can mirror receivers early in the route.
- Often runs comebacks as well as the wide receiver.
- Plays the deep ball well, stays on top of the route and can make a play on the ball.
- Does not get beat often. Gave up 16, 25 and 16 catches in each of the past three years. In total, he gave up just 616 yards on passes thrown into his coverage between 2014 and 2016 (he did benefit somewhat from inaccurate quarterbacks).
- Loves to get physical and press wide receivers. At his best when he can jam the WR off the snap.
- Reads and reacts very well against screen. Can come up and make tackles close to, or behind, the line of scrimmage.
- Just didn’t allow much production from wide receivers against him. Allowed an NFL passer rating of just 29.9 on throws into his coverage throughout 2016.
Player comparison: Marcus Peters, Kansas City Chiefs
- One flaw in his ability to jam receivers at the line of scrimmage is getting beat inside. Had numerous plays, resulting in both completions and incompletions, where he lost the receiver on an inside move.
- Will have to improve at being subtler with contact in the NFL. Physical to the point that he blurs the line on what would be flagged in the NFL. Was flagged five times in 2016.
- Can get a little bit lost in off coverage at times. 77 of the 227 yards he allowed last year came on plays where he looked to switch off.
- Will lose receivers at intermediate level. Struggled somewhat against post routes, giving up 61 yards on throws into his coverage, and being saved on another potential big play by a drop by the receiver.
- Has never seen extensive playing time at any position other than right cornerback in his time at Florida.
- Gambles often. Paid off for him at Florida but there were times where he got lucky. Against better quarterbacks and receivers in the NFL, that could backfire.
Whether or not Wilson can make an impact in the NFL early in his career like Peters did remains a big question mark, but like Peters he is more than willing to gamble to try and make a big play. That led to nine interceptions from Peters as a rookie, but also saw him 1,057 yards on throws into his coverage.
Bottom line: Wilson is a gambler and that’s more than likely to see big plays, both good and bad, on his NFL highlight reel. In a very strong cornerback class, he likely sees his value pushed down and out of the first round, but at worst you would expect to hear his name called on Day 2, and he has a chance to be a Day 1 starter in the NFL.
2017 Bears Draft Class:
3- Jonathan Allen, DE, Alabama
29- DeShaun Watson, QB, Clemson
36- Tim Williams, OLB, Alabama
61- Quincy Wilson, CB, Florida
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So far the Bears and the Browns both have had really good drafts so let's see if they can keep it up lol
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With the 63rd pick of the 2017 RCF Mock Draft, the Atlanta Falcons select:
MARCUS WILLIAMS - FS - UTAH
OVERVIEW
Utah's secret to football success has been their coaches' ability to find three-star recruits out of California to make the trip to Salt Lake City. Williams, a Corona native, continued that trend and contributed immediately, starting six times as a true freshman (59 tackles, INT, two forced fumbles.) In 2015, he started every game, garnering first-team all-conference (66 tackles, five INT, five pass breakups), and academic all-conference honors (4.0 high school GPA). Williams missed time in 2016 with an injury but still was named second-team All-Pac-12 with 64 tackles, five interceptions and three pass breakups.
ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS
Athletic and instinctive from high safety. Easy hips with smooth feet in his backpedal. Able to play from deep positioning and still make plays on the ball. Good recognition of quarterback’s intentions gives him a head-start on the throw. Has desired open-field speed to close from hash to sideline. Former basketball player and high-jumper with the leaping ability and timing to win the 50-50 throws. Posted 10 interceptions against 44 targets over last two seasons. Productive tackler and careful finisher. Steps downhill against the run. Leverages ball carriers to the sideline and rarely lets him cross back over into middle of the field. Gathers feet and widens out to unfurl a wider tackling net.
WEAKNESSES
Needs to add some muscle on his slim frame. More of a finesses safety than hitter. Takes the worst of it in one-on-one tackles. Can be dragged along for additional yardage. Plays with a hitch in his transition from backpedal. Occasionally follows quarterback's eyes too carefully and can be manipulated.
NFL COMPARISON
Justin Simmons
BOTTOM LINE
Ball-hawking free safety who has outstanding ball skills and has shown a propensity for causing turnovers. He can play from a high centerfield spot and utilizes his instincts to swoop down and challenge throws. He's able to get running backs down, but he’s not physical enough to be a combination safety. NFL teams love defensive backs with athletic traits, instincts and ball skills. If he works out well before the draft, he should move up team boards.
COMBINE STATS
- 40 YARD DASH: 4.56 SEC
- BENCH PRESS: 14 REPS
- VERTICAL JUMP: 43.5 INCH
- BROAD JUMP: 129.0 INCH
- 3 CONE DRILL: 6.85 SEC
- 20 YARD SHUTTLE: 4.20 SEC
- 60 YARD SHUTTLE: 11.26 SEC
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Great scenario for the Browns here, either D'Onta or The Oklahoma Ho Corrector sure to fall.
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What is sad and funny at the same time is we are all rooting for the Browns in this draft like it makes a difference.
And in case you are wondering, I only come into this draft to see who the Browns are taking or who is available at their pick and I am not even participating in the draft so I am the most guilty of this of all, lol.
And in case you are wondering, I only come into this draft to see who the Browns are taking or who is available at their pick and I am not even participating in the draft so I am the most guilty of this of all, lol.
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I don't care if we don't do anything in FA with a QB, but I really hate the idea of us picking a QB at 12 or even at 18 (with AZ moving down). Too much talent on the board. Use the 33rd or 52nd to get a QB IF YOU MUST (preferred 65 or later).