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Pierre Pan
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Pretty amazing that the line for tonight's game against the Wizards is even! A combination of (a) the Cavs coming off a long road trip, (b) the fact that LBJ may miss tonight;s game with his corneal abrasion, (c) that any or all of our Big 3 may sit, and most importantly (d) how poorly we've been playing of late.
I contend that if either (b) or (c) were to occur that the Wizards would become a solid favorite (betting-wise).
I contend that if either (b) or (c) were to occur that the Wizards would become a solid favorite (betting-wise).
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I think Lue had a point in the Interview at the Shootaround..
We played improving defense for 4-5 Games before our Big 3 sat out against Lac.. this threw the momentum they had started build out of the window and it Resulted in the Denver Game..
I think no matter how frustrating they are to watch at times.. we have to remember that for the first time all year the Team is whole. Everybody is ready to play in general.
Just now we can finetune the Playoff Rotation, build conistency and build good habbits..
Others and myself have said it even before the Season... "We use the RS as extendet Training Camp.. it does not get actually serious for our guys before the Playoffs start"
All that is not an excuse but more of an explanation.. I too want to see at least effort.. but i think now that we are getting really close to the Playoffs at least the effort part will come more consistently.
We played improving defense for 4-5 Games before our Big 3 sat out against Lac.. this threw the momentum they had started build out of the window and it Resulted in the Denver Game..
I think no matter how frustrating they are to watch at times.. we have to remember that for the first time all year the Team is whole. Everybody is ready to play in general.
Just now we can finetune the Playoff Rotation, build conistency and build good habbits..
Others and myself have said it even before the Season... "We use the RS as extendet Training Camp.. it does not get actually serious for our guys before the Playoffs start"
All that is not an excuse but more of an explanation.. I too want to see at least effort.. but i think now that we are getting really close to the Playoffs at least the effort part will come more consistently.
One thing that bugs me - I know that rosters collapse to 8-9 guys in the playoffs. However, we currently have the best 9-11 in the league off the bench: RJ/Derrick Williams/Frye (with Deron Williams/Korver/Shumpert as 6,7,8). But yesterday (even in the regular season) both Frye and Derrick Williams get DNP-CDs.
We should take advantage of the fact that we have young, playable guys at the bottom of our roster. Especially against teams like GS that aren't particularly deep outside the top 8. It's not going to be a lot of minutes, and I'm not sure exactly how to do it -- but some part of a "hustle" lineup that plays the last 3 minutes of the 3rd quarter (when LBJ usually rests), makes the most sense to me:
KI/Smith/Shumpert/RJ/Derrick Williams
could play with this a little bit, throwing Sanders in at the 5 if he is ready for playoff action. Throwing Liggins in place of Smith, etc. The goal would be to have the lineup play very fast - have Shumpert/Williams press on defense, etc. Make them fee like they just played an extra 6 minutes at the end of the 3rd quarter instead of three. Then in the 4th you hit them with a fresh LBJ and TT, etc.
We're going to have a lot of guys playing 15 MPG in the playoffs, we should be adjusting our pace to take advantage of that. It's something we can do now too, because it doesn't involve many starters.
We should take advantage of the fact that we have young, playable guys at the bottom of our roster. Especially against teams like GS that aren't particularly deep outside the top 8. It's not going to be a lot of minutes, and I'm not sure exactly how to do it -- but some part of a "hustle" lineup that plays the last 3 minutes of the 3rd quarter (when LBJ usually rests), makes the most sense to me:
KI/Smith/Shumpert/RJ/Derrick Williams
could play with this a little bit, throwing Sanders in at the 5 if he is ready for playoff action. Throwing Liggins in place of Smith, etc. The goal would be to have the lineup play very fast - have Shumpert/Williams press on defense, etc. Make them fee like they just played an extra 6 minutes at the end of the 3rd quarter instead of three. Then in the 4th you hit them with a fresh LBJ and TT, etc.
We're going to have a lot of guys playing 15 MPG in the playoffs, we should be adjusting our pace to take advantage of that. It's something we can do now too, because it doesn't involve many starters.
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Ready for Love to be in a new uniform next year.
Especially if the Cavs don't get out of the East.
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Wizards playing like a well-oiled machine, Cavs playing like a dump heap.
Wiz in 6.
Wiz in 6.
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Worst defense you'll ever see from a contender.
Matter fact the defense is pretender to me.
The world isn't ending, but Cavs are up to knee high shit. Point guards are just eating up Kyrie. TT is a guard playing Center with no outstanding defensive rebounding or rim protecting. LeBron isn't always triyng to block a Iggy. Can't ask that of him either.
Message sent to Cavaliers. Nobody is scared of you. They're telling you your defensive philosophies suck. Teams can care less about what you score.
Kyrie is on a pedestal now. PGs are on full attack. Easy buckets. Uncle Drew is Uncle Stew. Beef stew, the man is clearly cooked all night. I'm sick of it.
Matter fact the defense is pretender to me.
The world isn't ending, but Cavs are up to knee high shit. Point guards are just eating up Kyrie. TT is a guard playing Center with no outstanding defensive rebounding or rim protecting. LeBron isn't always triyng to block a Iggy. Can't ask that of him either.
Message sent to Cavaliers. Nobody is scared of you. They're telling you your defensive philosophies suck. Teams can care less about what you score.
Kyrie is on a pedestal now. PGs are on full attack. Easy buckets. Uncle Drew is Uncle Stew. Beef stew, the man is clearly cooked all night. I'm sick of it.
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Lol.
honestly not sure the Cavs are a contender...you can't win a title with defense like this...we scored 115 and lost ...think about that
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We were a 57-win, top-10 defense last year.
This year we're Mr. Hankey across the board.
Wiz in 6.
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Sit everyone the rest of the year. TT doesn't deserve his streak anymore. Play the hell out of Larry sanders to get him into game shape for the playoffs.