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Good 'Ole J.R
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You will be appreciated after you die.
Could be in the next few weeks even.
Anything to get away from this terrible Cavs season...
You will be appreciated after you die.
Could be in the next few weeks even.
PG was NEVER coming here. We had once chance to land him via trade, but OKC beat us to it. That ship has LONG sailed.The Cavs getting ripped all over the sports shows today. Even those who recently felt we still had the east locked up now don't think that will happen (me neither). LeBron ranting in that clip yesterday was a bad look too. Classless. PG isn't coming here, why would he want to join this mess. IT won't be fixing much, you'll see. Tonight in Indy will be another disaster. wtf.
To be honest there is just too much wrong with this team right now. Even during that win streak, it's been pointed out that the majority of it was against shit teams.
-LBJ is 33 and cannot carry the team on offense and defense anymore.
-the other 4 people in the starting lineup cause major problems. IT and LOVE pick and roll kills us.
-IT is injured and doesn't have his legs and who knows if he'll get back to what he was.
-JR is a shell of himself.
-Crowder is nonathletic and has duped everyone into thinking he's a great role player. Part of it might be Brad Steven's system, it may have to do with him dealing with his mother's death which sometimes affects people for years, but he is clearly NOT who we thought he would be.
-TT has taken a nosedive as well the last two years and ever since he's been back, Frye's minutes have gone down which we were during great with.
-Lue is trash. Doesn't want to hurt players feelings with changing the starting lineup and replacing JR with Cedi.
-Team is just old and slow. When you miss Shumpert and Rose for their quickness you know you have problems.
This recent thing about LeBron being a ballstopper highlights the evolution of the game.
Since the early 2000s the nba was all about finding the next Jordan. This spawned a host of scorers looking to do damage mostly from ISO situations (Kobe/AI types). Then came the score/assist ISO wing types like LeBron and Wade to a lesser extent. They weren't the first of their kind but repopularised the role. They became the new gold standard for franchise player unselfishness.
Recently we've had Curry/Durant types whom although post a high usage do a lot of their damage within the context of free flowing, highly effective ball movement systems.
LeBron is still better than these guys but he'll have to scale back on some of his tendencies if he's to hang with this lot through his old age
The Cavs have incredible talent. Virtually any mediocre coach could take them deep into the playoffs. But right now, they can't afford a mediocre coach. The Celtics and Raptors have improved, and the Warriors are as good as ever.
Most of this is on Lue, period. Don't slam LeBron, don't slam Love, don't slam any of the players out of context and point to any one of them as the main problem. Few casual fans understand just how important a coach and a system are to team success, but I point you to Gregg Popovich, Brad Stevens, Steve Kerr, and the success they have no matter what their units are. These coaches are systems geniuses who know how to make the best use out of their players (Stephen Curry was merely a very good player for years until Kerr vaunted him to mega-status with his brilliant offensive scheme, for example, and Popovich's success with just about everything should be apparent to everyone).
This recent thing about LeBron being a ballstopper highlights the evolution of the game.
Since the early 2000s the nba was all about finding the next Jordan. This spawned a host of scorers looking to do damage mostly from ISO situations (Kobe/AI types). Then came the score/assist ISO wing types like LeBron and Wade to a lesser extent. They weren't the first of their kind but repopularised the role. They became the new gold standard for franchise player unselfishness.
Recently we've had Curry/Durant types whom although post a high usage do a lot of their damage within the context of free flowing, highly effective ball movement systems.
LeBron is still better than these guys but he'll have to scale back on some of his tendencies if he's to hang with this lot through his old age
Yeah analytic thinking in the pre2000s was pretty low if all people took from watching Jordan's career was ISO dominance. He still played in the triangle system. Laimbeer alluded to the fact that they knew they had Jordan's number in the playoffs till he really learnt how to use his teammates to score.Good post. Even though Lebron is a score/assist wing he grew up with Jordan as his idol, and I've often thought the fact that he grew up watching the "ballstopper" era has held him back in some ways.
But with that said, what those ball movement systems really need is *depth of talent* on a team, especially athletic talent who can keep up a high pace. If there's anything Lebron's teams have lacked it's depth of talent. This year's team has a deep bench but is old, unathletic, and as I said in my previous post just not all that good once you get past Lebron and Love.
Once again, I would put it on the front office for not constructing the kind of team that would enable Lebron to better transition to a deep, effective ball movement team. Our failures in scouting and developing young players stands out here.