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NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- In their single worst day since the 2008 financial crisis, stocks plunged Thursday, with the Dow tumbling 512 points, as fear about the global economy spooked investors.
"The conventional wisdom on Wall Street was that the economy was growing -- that the worst was behind us," said Peter Schiff, president of Euro Pacific Capital. "Now what people are realizing is the stimulus didn't work, and we may be headed back to recession."

U.S. markets were already sharply lower on widespread worries, including the weak job market. But the selling gained momentum as Japanese and European policymakers stepped in with dramatic measures to shore up their financial markets.
There's "total fear" in the market, said Bob Doll, chief equity strategist at the world's largest money manager, BlackRock.
All three major indexes tumbled more than 4% Thursday and erased all their gains for the year. The indexes have also pushed into 'correction' territory - defined as a 10% drop from recent highs. The Dow, Nasdaq and S&P 500 are down more than 10% from mid-July.
"In the last two weeks, we've been through the ringer," said Rich Ilczyszyn, market strategist with futures broker Lind-Waldock. "When we start looking at the recovery, there's nothing to hang our hats on anymore."
The market's fear gauge -- the VIX (VIX) -- surged 30% to a reading of 30.5. That's just above 30 -- the level that signals a high degree of fear. The VIX up 77% from the start of the year.
At the closing bell, the Dow Jones industrial average (INDU) was down 512 points, or 4.3%, with Alcoa (AA, Fortune 500), Caterpillar (CAT, Fortune 500) and Bank of America (BAC, Fortune 500) among the biggest drags on the blue chip index. Thursday's sell-off marked the ninth biggest point loss for the Dow.

Adding further to investors' jitters, Wall Street is waiting for Friday's jobs report, which BlackRock's Doll said was adding to the selling pressure.
The report is now a bit of wild card after it has come in far below forecasts for the last two months.
Economists surveyed by CNNMoney are expecting the report to show that the U.S. economy created 75,000 jobs in July, marking a slight improvement over the paltry 18,000 jobs added in June.
The unemployment rate is expected to hold steady at 9.2%.
 
To the guys who know at least a little about what they're talking about...

I'm 28 and I've got an IRA and a regular investment account. Both accounts are pretty diverse. I don't change a thing at this point, correct? Obviously, I'd like to buy some things but should I wait a couple weeks or is this going to get even worse?
 
To the guys who know at least a little about what they're talking about...

I'm 28 and I've got an IRA and a regular investment account. Both accounts are pretty diverse. I don't change a thing at this point, correct? Obviously, I'd like to buy some things but should I wait a couple weeks or is this going to get even worse?

Generally speaking you shouldn't touch your IRA and whatever you have invested. Right now we're seeing that Wall Street is starting to panic because a) Europe is imploding and b) it's pretty obvious that no help is coming from the US government. Those factors are providing even more impetus for investors to sell. And that selling in turn is creating even more panic.

But with all that said the best you can do is ride it out.
 
Nice, just yesterday I changed my robust work 401(k) to a brokerage account, giving me the ability to buy some stocks, etc. I am a true barometer of the economy.

So, what would you invest in with your retirement account?
 
You all are suckers. Who needs investments when I could just sell drugs? There's always a demand for drugs.
 
I have a 401k which I am able to move investments around. I keep 70% of mine in a interest only investment. I gain about 2% per year, but can't lose anything. The other 30% is in large company and small company stocks with some international stock also. I tend to not check on mine but only 3-4 times a year. I don't panic when the stock market goes nuts. For the most part whatever you lose, you will gain back when the market bounces back.

Jigo_oi - If you want to buy into something, do some research and see how its done over a 3 month/ 1 year/5 year time span. If its taken a shit over the last 3 months, but has done really well over 5 years then I might take a chance on it, because chances are its gonna rebound and you might be able to buy low right now.
 
Gold. Gold. Gold. $2,000/oz. is a safe bet within the next year. Unless the Tea Party takes Congress and the White House, the sky is the limit after that.
 
Jigo_oi, don't touch it, close your online statements and step away from the computer for the next 6 months. We are too young to worry about it, any losses we experience now, we will make back many times over.
Long term baby...Long term.
 
Since the American dollar and most currencies are no longer backed by gold, what true value does gold really have if we go to hell in a handbasket? I could see silver due to usage in many devices and medical functions.
 
Can someone even point a way out in non-financial specialist terms?

I am just drowning in bad news and honestly have no idea if the USA will ever return to what it was... Any encouragement out there?
 
Can someone even point a way out in non-financial specialist terms?

I am just drowning in bad news and honestly have no idea if the USA will ever return to what it was... Any encouragement out there?

My advice? Learn Mandarin.
 
To the guys who know at least a little about what they're talking about...

I'm 28 and I've got an IRA and a regular investment account. Both accounts are pretty diverse. I don't change a thing at this point, correct? Obviously, I'd like to buy some things but should I wait a couple weeks or is this going to get even worse?

I still get monthly paper statements on my IRA and quarterly statements of my 401k. I barely look at them. I file them away as soon as I get them and never look at them again. I need to worry about market fluxuations and be more active by the time I'm 45-50 years old not when I'm 32. The key is to put $$ in now and know that over time those investments will rebound and be more than worth today's investment.

As far as adding $$ into stocks now, you're picking a good time to look. It's all a guess as to know when stocks will hit their lowest. Pick some companies you think will be good investments and track their recent history then compare it to what happen yesterday. If you think they have more to fall, wait it out some more. If you think they are near record lows now, it might be a good time to put some cash in.
 
and then the jobs report comes out and its much better than expected. this is why i dont play in the stock market. pure chaos off of at least some speculation that turned out to be false
 

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