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Preseason game 3 - Hawks vs Cavs

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For those watching the game, how is Kay looking?


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Extremely impressive on offense, lightning quick and he is going past Schroeder with ease. On defense, he stays in front of schroeder but if he is switched onto a bigger guy he is toast.
I'll summarize the game when it's over.
 
I love that Dwight is on the verge of fouling out with 20 minutes to go playing against the Cavs scrubs

Not watching the game but Kay's line looks great. Don't be concerned by his low assist total so far; McCrae, Champ, and Dahntay have been tossing up brick after brick
 
Hawks fans loving beating the Cavs who didn't play 1-9 of their rotation. Well, Kay might be 7 or 8 with the way he's playing.
 
McRae kind of reminds me of a young and a bit less talented JR. Scores at ease, but also a reckless player.

Natural scorer, can create his own shot and shoot/drive at will, but also a very streaky player. If he's hot, he can score 30 at ease.

But when he's not on his night, if you leave him at the court he keeps getting worse and doing dumb shit after dumb shit. He can lose a game on his own if you keep him on court when he's in an off night.

Guy really need to improve his decision making and lose his anxiety/obsession for scoring at all costs, keeping shooting when it clearly isn't his night. He must learn to help the team other ways when it happens and settle with the fact he won't score much on given nights.

It was one of those days. He got a bit exposed in there, Lue could have given more minutes to Liggins or Brown.

Anyway, Holmes and mainly Jefferson are interesting players. We could use another big body in there who can rebound the ball, it could be interesting to have Jefferson as the 15th player, even though he seems pretty slow to defend outside, kind of like Frye.
 
So this was a tough game to watch but I watched it anyways cause I watch every game.
A few side notes, ATL announcers arethe worst, they make me depressed but what was funny is that they kept praising Dwight and that they have yet to have a bruising center with such defensive presence just because he was feasting on a 6'6 Center.
I'll go through every player and point out the positive and negatives, you really get to see the flaws of each player in this kind of game.

Let's start with the fan darling Kay Felder-
On offense
,I don't care about his physical limitations concerning his height but his quickness, explosiveness and burst is going to translate no matter what, it might no translate at first to points but it definately opens up the game for others, he breaks down the defense when he wants and from what i've seen makes the correct pass almost all the time, he has great vision and even when he is trapped on the baseline he has this no look pass that always finds the target.
He can be deceiving with his passing, you never know who is going to pass to which is impressive.
Defensively, he can stay with his man, he has great lateral quickness and he stays with his man, even against one of the quickest in the league in schroeder.
I still don't like how he handles the PnR but when he goes under the screen he one of the quickest to recover, he is going to be extremely valuable during the regular season against quick PGs without a 3pt shot.
On the negative side offensively, his height is still a problem finishing over centers, he is not crafty enough like Isaiah Thomas ( one of the better finishers for his position despite his height), he tries to finish over guys inside of finding the small gaps when shot blockers go for a block, he has ways to go there and I hope he can improve his craftiness there.
Obviously he has no confidence in his shot YET but he did take more shots from mid range this game and I have way more confidence that he develops a reliable shot eventually when his confidence improves.
On a less important note, he is not as fast going to his right and that might show on the scouting report, I hope he can fix that somehow.

On the negative side defensively he isn't good going over the screen and if he gets switched onto a bigger man he is dead, his mass isn't helping him at all there.
Other than that, he is a good rebounder for his size.

Jordan McRae- was abysmal just when I started to develop hype for the guy byut I already knew he was a blackhole when he played with players he thought were scrubs.
Offensively, he will have trouble generating good looks for himself and others if he doesn't have a big body that screens for him, he is not fast enough to create good looks for others and when he doesn't get what he wants he forces shots.
He is a frequent visitor at the FT line, he has an Hardenque way of generating fouls because he is skinny so everything looks like a foul so that's a plus.

There are big negatives in his game that I think can work with good players surrounding him but I can't stress enough how bad his basketball IQ is.
He is not a good passer and he is usually too late to pass when the opportunity presents itself and he sometimes misses a wide open man with a better look to score the basket.

Defensively, he looses focus and is too late to rotate sometimes, he has a low bb IQ and it shows on defense aswell.
All in all I still like him and I believe he can provide good options only if he plays with decent players and this team has plenty of them.
Last words for him, he doesn't like to differ to no one but it looks like Kay and McCrae don't really like playing with each other.

As for the camp invitees
Liggins
provides great versatility on the wings, he isn't anything special defensively but he can guard 1-3 with pretty good results.
It seems like he should make the roster to provide an alternative if Felder gets abused on defense and you put Liggins with great offensive players causehe can not create shots or offense.

Cory Jefferson-

Surprised me, obviously he can't guard Centers like Dwight but he showed poise, competiteness and a good touch around the basket.
He nailed a few good looking mid range shots when left open and he is a pretty good rebounder for his size.
I think at the next level he can only guard one position and that's the 4.

Jonathan Holmes-
He has a good shot albeit a slow release.
This can prove problematic at the next level cause the shots he does make are wide wide open shots and i'm not sure he will have to confidence or the ability to knock them when it counts.
Having another floor spacer could provide useful though
He is nothing to talk about defensively and he isn't a good rebounder aswell.

Toney Douglas-
Douglas is a pest, he can provide what Delly provided on defense, he stays with his man and is decent going over screens.
His offense is nothing to talk about right now, and i'm not sure what to do about him given the circumstances and the limited roster spots.

Markel Brown-
I like him, I think he can provide useful and have some upside for a team, I'm not sure it's the Cavs.
He is 6'2 wing and is a great athlete but i'm not sure that his size is what the cavs are looking for the wing spot and I also think the Cavs are fine at the 2 spot.
The bench unit with him and Liggins proved to be great against the Hawks, he was great with rotations and covered his man well.


Last words, I really think the Cavs next move is to look at rim protectors in the draft or via a trade.
 
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Mcrae biggest mistake was passing. Its just not a skill he naturally has so he hesitates and then its a turnover as the defense has rotated. Just shoot it Jordan its what everyone expects anyway
 
We played with our summer league team and only lost by 6.

gtfo Atlanta.
 
We played with our summer league team and only lost by 6.

gtfo Atlanta.
So funny watching the game and listening to the hawks commentary. They were convinced they were going to be a rugged defensive team. They might win 45 games but there will be nights shroeder is off and they will get destroyed by lack of playmaking
 
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So funny watching the game and listening to the hawks commentary. They were convinced they were going to be a rugged defensive team. They might win 45 games but there will be nights shroeder is off and they will get destroyed by lack of playmaking
They get anything for teague?
 
this is outrageous. our backup's backups lose to Atlanta's starters. ridiculous. time to make some changes.
 
Okay, it’s not like anyone cares but I watched this game last night for hours and I am about to post this long drabble of inconsistencies and nonsense so skip towards the end if you want any of my actual game takeaways.

I guess me typing this all up is in some since therapeutic since I bottle everything up and releasing it rather its read or not I suppose helps.

I HAVE to see every game. It’s not an option, I mean really I get this weird odd glazed feeling if a game is on and there is the possibility I will NEVER be able to see it. I had this feeling Monday, no League Pass for the TV yet, not on National TV and streaming on my internet sucks so I was stuck with missing it live and hoping for the best later. I frequent some torrent sites but, as my lack of luck would have it, no one decided to upload THIS particular game in less than 60fps in which my setup cannot handle that. I may have risked a virus but I found a site that basically took reborn4hd’s HD stream and uploaded it in lesser quality so I downloaded that. I signed up for the free trial of reborn4hd’s site but it wasn’t approved for hours with the free trial so I didn’t want to risk it. Now for whatever reason this torrent I downloaded didn’t play smoothly and had its own issues but I was stuck as it was the only available way to watch the game. I sat and watched this game with the relief I was seeing it but depressed in the overall presentation. They must have approved my free trial with reborn during the game because right after I was done it was there for me to view. It wasn’t perfect but it was FAR better than the version I had just watched, so you guess it, I literally watched this game twice in a row. It didn’t warrant a 2nd viewing but I did it, I didn’t get to bed until after 1:30 and I wake up at 7:00.

Why am I posting this? No Clue. Why did I re-watch? No Clue. Am I mad that the crappy torrent I found had a screen grab of the score after 1 quarter thus spoiling at least the outcome at that time? Yes. Even though the score doesn’t matter in this game and even after 1, there are 3 quarters to play but not cool, nonetheless.

So my night consisted of watching this game in crappy quality and then in lesser crappy quality from 8:00 pm to about 1:15 am. I think I know this game better than the players and I think at this point I don’t actually want to dissect the game in great detail so here are a few things I noticed…

-Jefferson seemed to come into his own when he got “used” to Howard out there.

-Expected more from McCrae to be honest. He was a walking turnover it seemed.

End of long drabble…
 

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