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PRESIDENT OBAMA!
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Obama is a very charismatic guy, a very good speaker and he seems to have some pretty idealistic principles about him. Which is great.
However:
When he is asked about past work he has done to prove his follow through, he gets flustered as hell. There were a couple times against Hillary (who seems like a royal cvnt) where he just completely mentally panicked.
There really doesn't seem to be much in the way of proof that he will succeed as president. In addition to that, there are some issues that he gets pretty flustered on and that worries me about a president. There should be no issue in a debate that you aren't prepared to address AND have a resolution for. I think that more experience would lend Obama a bit more creedence as a potential president.
Obama is a very charismatic guy, a very good speaker and he seems to have some pretty idealistic principles about him. Which is great.
However:
When he is asked about past work he has done to prove his follow through, he gets flustered as hell. There were a couple times against Hillary (who seems like a royal cvnt) where he just completely mentally panicked.
There really doesn't seem to be much in the way of proof that he will succeed as president. In addition to that, there are some issues that he gets pretty flustered on and that worries me about a president. There should be no issue in a debate that you aren't prepared to address AND have a resolution for. I think that more experience would lend Obama a bit more creedence as a potential president.
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At about :32 seconds in that video parody, did she say "mandingo love", hence the thanks for said poster?
At about :32 seconds in that video parody, did she say "mandingo love", hence the thanks for said poster?
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I think Universal Health Care is a huge step towards socialism that America will not take. The President may push for it but the chances of it being approved by enough of a majority is slim to none. The president does not have the final say. In this regard, Obama's plan is a little more feasible than Hillary's but probably neither will pass. Been there done that.
If we could get our health system to go paperless, take care of the illegal immigration problem so that unpaid medical expenses don't trickle down to our premiums, and doctors/gynecologists get shielded from frivalous law suits, then we may be able to lower prices to an affordable level. Have you guys ever made an emergency visit to the hospital and then checked what the hospital bills the insurance company? The total cost is astronomical and way out of line. My wife made an emergency visit to a health clinic to check her face for staff infection and it was a 5 minute visit that cost $250. Who knows though, I am just your typical concerned citizen.
That said, I like Obama a lot and the appeal of someone who is able to cross party lines is tempting. If he doesn't get the Presidency, I would love to see him replace Harry Reids useless ass as Senate Majority Leader.
I think Universal Health Care is a huge step towards socialism that America will not take. The President may push for it but the chances of it being approved by enough of a majority is slim to none. The president does not have the final say. In this regard, Obama's plan is a little more feasible than Hillary's but probably neither will pass. Been there done that.
If we could get our health system to go paperless, take care of the illegal immigration problem so that unpaid medical expenses don't trickle down to our premiums, and doctors/gynecologists get shielded from frivalous law suits, then we may be able to lower prices to an affordable level. Have you guys ever made an emergency visit to the hospital and then checked what the hospital bills the insurance company? The total cost is astronomical and way out of line. My wife made an emergency visit to a health clinic to check her face for staff infection and it was a 5 minute visit that cost $250. Who knows though, I am just your typical concerned citizen.
That said, I like Obama a lot and the appeal of someone who is able to cross party lines is tempting. If he doesn't get the Presidency, I would love to see him replace Harry Reids useless ass as Senate Majority Leader.
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Universal Healthcare would just end up getting abused the same way wellfare has been.
And the main beef I have with the video is the stupidity of the comments and how it is almost cult like.
"I want to live in a Country without fear"
No shit, we all do, but it is not a realistic possibility.
Universal Healthcare would just end up getting abused the same way wellfare has been.
And the main beef I have with the video is the stupidity of the comments and how it is almost cult like.
"I want to live in a Country without fear"
No shit, we all do, but it is not a realistic possibility.
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Unfortunately that's the way I feel too. He's the trendy Hollywood pick. It's "In" to be an Obama supporter...people think it's cool. Yet most of them couldn't name one piece of legislation he has ever passed. Most of them have no idea that he has one of the most liberal voting records in history. He isn't just a liberal, he's a RADICAL liberal. That scares the hell out of me. I get it that people don't like Bush and want a "CHANGE". But damn, that doesn't mean you go with someone that will widen the current divide in this country. People need to look beyond his rhetoric and realize just what is inside the pretty package that the media, Hollywood and Dingo's video above are trying to sell us. He hated Ronald Reagan and loved Jimmy Carter....what does that tell you?
In the end I don't think he will be elected. Republicans obviously hate him. But he isn't the answer moderates are looking for either. No to mention there's a % of the population that will not vote for a black man and his female running mate. He will be exposed in the debates. He will be forced to actually pick sides on issues. He can hide in debates against Hillary, but when he's up against McCain his radical agenda will come out. He will forced to explain how he's going to pay for his policies....how he's going to pay for national healthcare. His lack of experience on foreign affairs will be a huge weakness too. When average Joe realizes his taxes are going into the stratosphere he'll vote for McCain. He's far from the perfect candidate but he's the closer to the center than the other two....and that's a good thing.
Unfortunately that's the way I feel too. He's the trendy Hollywood pick. It's "In" to be an Obama supporter...people think it's cool. Yet most of them couldn't name one piece of legislation he has ever passed. Most of them have no idea that he has one of the most liberal voting records in history. He isn't just a liberal, he's a RADICAL liberal. That scares the hell out of me. I get it that people don't like Bush and want a "CHANGE". But damn, that doesn't mean you go with someone that will widen the current divide in this country. People need to look beyond his rhetoric and realize just what is inside the pretty package that the media, Hollywood and Dingo's video above are trying to sell us. He hated Ronald Reagan and loved Jimmy Carter....what does that tell you?
In the end I don't think he will be elected. Republicans obviously hate him. But he isn't the answer moderates are looking for either. No to mention there's a % of the population that will not vote for a black man and his female running mate. He will be exposed in the debates. He will be forced to actually pick sides on issues. He can hide in debates against Hillary, but when he's up against McCain his radical agenda will come out. He will forced to explain how he's going to pay for his policies....how he's going to pay for national healthcare. His lack of experience on foreign affairs will be a huge weakness too. When average Joe realizes his taxes are going into the stratosphere he'll vote for McCain. He's far from the perfect candidate but he's the closer to the center than the other two....and that's a good thing.
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Great points Maximus and doesn't that video of all those lame brain celebrities have the opposite effect? It make me really not want to vote for him. There is not a lot about celebrities that I find is in accordance with what I value in life.
Great points Maximus and doesn't that video of all those lame brain celebrities have the opposite effect? It make me really not want to vote for him. There is not a lot about celebrities that I find is in accordance with what I value in life.
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I've said it before and I'll say it again - millions of people are tired of the neo-conservative crap that has been shoved down our throats for the last 8 years. When did "conservative" become a good word and "liberal" a bad word? This is a result of the dividing forces of the neo-cons. There is no way in hell Obama can widen the gap between the two parties. It's the widest it's ever been right now courtesy of the current administration. I for one will embrace a candidate with more liberal views as will millions of other voters come November.
I've said it before and I'll say it again - millions of people are tired of the neo-conservative crap that has been shoved down our throats for the last 8 years. When did "conservative" become a good word and "liberal" a bad word? This is a result of the dividing forces of the neo-cons. There is no way in hell Obama can widen the gap between the two parties. It's the widest it's ever been right now courtesy of the current administration. I for one will embrace a candidate with more liberal views as will millions of other voters come November.
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A lot of Obama's economic plans make sense and are realistic. John McCain has said he doesn't understand economics which right then and there took away any chance i had of voting for him. It was almost 0 then, but at least I would have listened to his debates now I won't. I can't vote for a guy who doesn't even understand economics.
Jimmy Carter was probably one of the smartest presidents we've ever had speaking on a strictly IQ level. However, he sucked as a president.
A lot of Obama's economic plans make sense and are realistic. John McCain has said he doesn't understand economics which right then and there took away any chance i had of voting for him. It was almost 0 then, but at least I would have listened to his debates now I won't. I can't vote for a guy who doesn't even understand economics.
Jimmy Carter was probably one of the smartest presidents we've ever had speaking on a strictly IQ level. However, he sucked as a president.
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I just have trouble voting for an 88 year old man..I mean back in the 1700s-1800s it was common place for a president to be old, but those guys would still go out on the battlefield and boomheadshot for a while before coming in and impregnating their slaves..
I just think McCain has lost touch much like Joe Gibbs did with football.
I'm not saying I'm thrilled with Hillary or Barack, but could it be worse than Bush?
I just have trouble voting for an 88 year old man..I mean back in the 1700s-1800s it was common place for a president to be old, but those guys would still go out on the battlefield and boomheadshot for a while before coming in and impregnating their slaves..
I just think McCain has lost touch much like Joe Gibbs did with football.
I'm not saying I'm thrilled with Hillary or Barack, but could it be worse than Bush?
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It sounds like you're saying one extreme didn't work so let's try the other. At least McCain has fought a lot of bipartisan battles that were unpopular with his party. Hillary has a better record of bipartisan achievement than Obama. His rhetoric says he's a uniter, but his voting record tells an entirely different story....when he has voted that is. He has a reputation of hiding or voting "present" whenever a tought vote was up. He voted "present" 130 times as a senator, basically sidestepping tough issues. Other times he ducked votes all together like when he stayed in Hawaii rather than return for a special session to vote on gun control.(that decision ultimately cost him the race against Bobby Rush)
I want someone that's willing to cross party lines, McCain has shown a willingness to do so. He's our best chance at narrowing the gap between the parties. Obama has shown no desire to unite as a Senator...I don't see why that would suddenly change as a President.
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It sounds like you're saying one extreme didn't work so let's try the other. At least McCain has fought a lot of bipartisan battles that were unpopular with his party. Hillary has a better record of bipartisan achievement than Obama. His rhetoric says he's a uniter, but his voting record tells an entirely different story....when he has voted that is. He has a reputation of hiding or voting "present" whenever a tought vote was up. He voted "present" 130 times as a senator, basically sidestepping tough issues. Other times he ducked votes all together like when he stayed in Hawaii rather than return for a special session to vote on gun control.(that decision ultimately cost him the race against Bobby Rush)
I want someone that's willing to cross party lines, McCain has shown a willingness to do so. He's our best chance at narrowing the gap between the parties. Obama has shown no desire to unite as a Senator...I don't see why that would suddenly change as a President.
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Maximus has pretty much made every point that can be made, people dont like Bush because he is way to conservative, but you guys want to put another person who is so far left winged? Yea, that will work.
And celebrities know nothing on Politics or World Issues, the whole Darfur stuff was the biggest crock of shit ever, all the same people who say "we shouldnt police the world" were saying we should go over and get in the middle of two African Tribes killing the hell out of each. If your opinion is swayed by celebs your vote should be nulled.
And LBJ, although the economy is doing bad, thats what happens when it does well for a while its going to come back down eventually. Biggest problem we are facing is the war, and how you dont put in a guy who was a POW for 5 years after getting shot down in his plane is beyond me.
Maximus has pretty much made every point that can be made, people dont like Bush because he is way to conservative, but you guys want to put another person who is so far left winged? Yea, that will work.
And celebrities know nothing on Politics or World Issues, the whole Darfur stuff was the biggest crock of shit ever, all the same people who say "we shouldnt police the world" were saying we should go over and get in the middle of two African Tribes killing the hell out of each. If your opinion is swayed by celebs your vote should be nulled.
And LBJ, although the economy is doing bad, thats what happens when it does well for a while its going to come back down eventually. Biggest problem we are facing is the war, and how you dont put in a guy who was a POW for 5 years after getting shot down in his plane is beyond me.
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I ask so little of a perfect presidential candidate. All I ask is the following:
I ask so little of a perfect presidential candidate. All I ask is the following:
- Find a way to lower taxes
- Find a way to lower gas prices. If you have to drill in the middle of Yellowstone fvcking National Park to do this, then you do it. I'm sick of gas prices increasing, it makes me fvcking sick.
- Keep illegal immigrants the hell out of our country. Keep most immigrants the hell out of our country, unless they're coming here to make it better for US. I'm sick of hearing about how this place is such an opportunity for everyone else. WHEN YOU GO TO A JOB INTERVIEW DO YOU TELL THE POTENTIAL EMPLOYER ABOUT WHAT A GREAT OPPORTUNITY THEY ARE FOR YOU??? If you do, then there's a reason you're making minimum wage selling hopping penises at Spencer's or fvcking up some old guy's gutter with a weedwacker for $6.75/hr at the age of 35. It's because you're a dummy. YOU COME TO OUR COUNTRY YOU BETTER BE READY TO MAKE US BETTER.
- STOP WITH THE WELFARE AND AFFIRMATIVE ACTION BULLSHIT.
- We can do whatever the hell we want with terrorists if we catch them. Ethical, unethical or otherwise. They're fvcking terrorists, they don't have any rights.
- Keep religion the hell out of the Whitehouse. At least as much as you can.
- Stop worrying so much about what's going on in other countries. Spend money on OUR country so Japan and China stop nipping at our heels.
- Stop worrying so much about what other countries think of us. What Jessica Alba said was the dumbest piece of shit I've ever heard. WHO CARES WHETHER OTHER COUNTRIES LIKE US OR NOT? Other countries can eat shit. France is a bunch of pussies in particular.
- AGAIN...STOP WITH THE WELFARE BULLSHIT. If you absolutely HAVE to, spend money on programs to show these people how to make money so they can stop taking it from hard-working people of this country.
- Why aren't we using these fvcking fetuses to better our ability to treat diseases that have been plaguing the world since they developed. Not taking advantage of stem cell research is asinine.
- Leave women the hell alone about abortion. It's not a child until it leaves the womb. The right to abort should be considered on a case by case scenario. If some moron is using abortion as a contraceptive, then put her to death. She doesn't deserve to live in our society anyways. If it's the best choice for the mother to abort the child, then leave it to her to decide.
- On the topic of putting people to death, criminals should have as few rights as possible. Make our society as close to "eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth" as you can You commit murder? You stay in jail until you're put to death. You commit rape? You're in jail for the rest of your life. You do anything to a child, you're in maximum security, pound me in the ass prison for the remainder of your pathetic life and the guards are instructed to look the other way when you get the shit kicked out of you.
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