Ricky Rubio - Take the Money and Limp

[Lee]

Why would the door open for playing in Spain, but not in the NBA?

He doesnt want to be away from his kids anymore. So if he plays, it will be in Spain.

 

[KevinLoveFan]

People understand injury. Even unusual injuries, like the blood clotting that ended Bosh's career. Many folks are simply not as understanding mental health. It leads to some really unfortunate takes.

Though, For all I know, this was some weird long con by Rubio. But, I doubt it. And I doubt he is just being lazy, But again, I have no more information about the situation than anyone else here.

Agreed 100%. We don't know. It could be a con, or it could be legitimate.

To form a reasonable opinion on someone else's perceived problems, we have to have very specific information on what that individual has experienced, and make sure it's actually completely equivalent to our own situations we're comparing it to.

Imagine someone who's never gone through a divorce lecturing someone and saying, "If you just worked out your problems like my spouse and I do, then you wouldn't need a divorce." This person has zero information on why someone is going through a divorce -- all they know is that someone is, and they think they can preach because their own marriage is fine.

Or imagine a woman who's never been harassed saying, "If the rest of you women would just be like me and dress modestly and not drink and live moral lifestyles, you wouldn't get harassed."

These people would tend to be regarded as self-righteous pompous asses making assumptions that their situation is exactly equivalent as other people's, all based on the most surface of similarities.

Yet that's what some are doing here with Rubio.

 

[BigZ94]

Guy should have just shut up and dribbled.

I have no problem about opening up about mental health, of course that should be encouraged. But then just bailing on your job and your teammates, and happily keeping a big chunk of that contract you didn’t earn sucks imo

 

[Lee]

Agreed 100%. We don't know. It could be a con, or it could be legitimate.

To form a reasonable opinion on someone else's perceived problems, we have to have very specific information on what that individual has experienced, and make sure it's actually completely equivalent to our own situations we're comparing it to.

Imagine someone who's never gone through a divorce lecturing someone and saying, "If you just worked out your problems like my spouse and I do, then you wouldn't need a divorce." This person has zero information on why someone is going through a divorce -- all they know is that someone is, and they think they can preach because their own marriage is fine.

Or imagine a woman who's never been harassed saying, "If the rest of you women would just be like me and dress modestly and not drink and live moral lifestyles, you wouldn't get harassed."

These people would tend to be regarded as self-righteous pompous asses making assumptions that their situation is exactly equivalent as other people's, all based on the most surface of similarities.

Yet that's what some are doing here with Rubio.

It baffles my mind some think this is a con, it really does. I dont know what Rubio is going through, none of us do. But do you know who does? The Cavs front office, and THEY are the ones that negotiated a settlement said nice things about him and he said nice things about t he Cavs and its settled. Its not our money, its not our problem, and sure isnt fucking our business to be honest.

Well said on your part. I hope Rubio finds happiness.

 

[BigZ94]

Respectfully, you do not what the fuck you are talking about.

Mental health disorders are not the same as grieving a family members passing or facing adversity/changes in day to day life. Sure, some of these events can lead to disorders depending on the person's ability to manage them, but everyone processes it differently.

Your garbage man could be using drugs to get through the day to cope with a mental health disorder. Your garbage man may go missing for a week because he had to be admitted to a psychiatric hospital. Your garbage man may have been through multiple jobs and may lose this one to the dysfunction caused by a mental health disorder. Your garbage man may end up incarcerated caused by decisions made while suffering from a mental health disorder. Toughing it out does not work and most of the time makes shit much worse for people suffering mental health disorders. There are working people that end up in the hospital, on short/long term disability, or have to live the rest of their lives depending on SSI/SSDI because of toughing out a mental health disorder when they needed to get treatment.

If you have money and the power, to say stop, I am unwell and cannot keep pushing forward. Then you should do that! Rich people can have mental illness too. You think just because how society does a dog shit job at handling mental health that rich people should do the same. News flash! We should all have the ability to get treatment for mental health disorders and not end up homeless if we cannot keep toughing it out to work.

I mean he’s depressed not diagnosed with schizophrenia, he’s not getting treatment just moving back to sunny Spain to do the same job and be with his family. Few months after making a multimillion dollar commitment to a basketball team and keeping a bunch of that money without earning a single penny. Good for him but gets no pity from me. If he felt so bad about being here why sign the contract, he was an FA he could have just left this Summer

 

[2 For The Brew]

Agreed 100%. We don't know. It could be a con, or it could be legitimate.

To form a reasonable opinion on someone else's perceived problems, we have to have very specific information on what that individual has experienced, and make sure it's actually completely equivalent to our own situations we're comparing it to.

Imagine someone who's never gone through a divorce lecturing someone and saying, "If you just worked out your problems like my spouse and I do, then you wouldn't need a divorce." This person has zero information on why someone is going through a divorce -- all they know is that someone is, and they think they can preach because their own marriage is fine.

Or imagine a woman who's never been harassed saying, "If the rest of you women would just be like me and dress modestly and not drink and live moral lifestyles, you wouldn't get harassed."

These people would tend to be regarded as self-righteous pompous asses making assumptions that their situation is exactly equivalent as other people's, all based on the most surface of similarities.

Yet that's what some are doing here with Rubio.

100%.

Or to put it another way - the only thing sillier than internet doctors are internet psychologists.

Marcus Trescothick was a great cricket player for England who developed severe depression issues when playing overseas. (In cricket the most important matches are between countries not clubs, and require you to be away from home for weeks or sometimes a couple of months). He had to end his international career but was able to play in England.

He wrote a book about it “Coming Back To Me.”

So there are real life examples of athletes having mental challenges being away from home.

I don’t know enough about Ricky’s situation to judge him but I’m glad he & the team had an amicable resolution.

 

[AustinCarr]

I mean he’s depressed not diagnosed with schizophrenia,

You know this how? We have no insight into what he is suffering through or if there are any diagnosed mental health issues.

he’s not getting treatment just moving back to sunny Spain

Again, how do you know this?

moving back to sunny Spain to do the same job and be with his family. Few months after making a multimillion dollar commitment to a basketball team and keeping a bunch of that money without earning a single penny.

This is simply incorrect. He is not doing the same job. He isnt playing basketball. He pulled out of all pro or national basketball when he made his announcement last summer.

Additionally, he did not back out of commitment a few months after. He rehabbed to start year one of his 3 year contract (actually 2 year with a partially guaranteed 3rd year) and finished out the year as a Rotational player.

Going into his second hear is when he announced his stopping playing ball.

 

[Omar The Horse]

Just heard Windhorst on the True Hoop Collective podcast mention that Rubio had mental health coverage in his contract.

If that’s the case I walk back on my stance in regards to all of this. The Cavs clearly knew more about his situation when they re-signed him.

 

[BigZ94]

You know this how? We have no insight into what he is suffering through or if there are any diagnosed mental health issues.

Again, how do you know this?

This is simply incorrect. He is not doing the same job. He isnt playing basketball. He pulled out of all pro or national basketball when he made his announcement last summer.

Additionally, he did not back out of commitment a few months after. He rehabbed to start year one of his 3 year contract (actually 2 year with a partially guaranteed 3rd year) and finished out the year as a Rotational player.

Going into his second hear is when he announced his stopping playing ball.

So he got payed a whole year to rehab, then decided to quit. He’s getting 6 mil this year and 6 mil next year for literally doing nothing. He fleeced us. Hope he gets the help he needs. But there’s so many people out the in the world who have the same struggles without millions of dollars to fall back on. They get up and go to work without the luxury of just quitting their jobs. I’ll keep my pity for them

I’d put money on Rubio playing basketball again in Spain

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

He doesnt want to be away from his kids anymore. So if he plays, it will be in Spain.

My point exactly.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

Just heard Windhorst on the True Hoop Collective podcast mention that Rubio had mental health coverage in his contract.

The cost of actual treatment was not the issue.

 

[Omar The Horse]

The cost of actual treatment was not the issue.

He had a mental health clause in his contract (which is rare according to Windy) where it dictated he can take mental health breaks while still getting paid.

That changes the optics for me.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

He had a mental health clause in his contract (which is rare according to Windy) where it dictated he can take mental health breaks while still getting paid.

That changes the optics for me.

The Cavs did that same thing for Love.

But paid leave to recover from a mental health episode is different from simply not wanting to play again period.

 

[Cassity14]

My point exactly.

Your point is equating present day actual things with future hypotheticals as a means to look down on them?

Thats, like, the definition of mental gymnastics.

 

[Omar The Horse]

The Cavs did that same thing for Love.

But paid leave to recover from a mental health episode is different from simply not wanting to play again period.

Even if that’s the case Rubio honored the contract per the verbiage in the contract. The Cavs were aware of his mental health issues prior to re-signing him.