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So long, David Griffin

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I think it's going to be harder than ever to add a key piece this year.

Last offseason the key pieces added were Mo Williams, Sasha Kaun, and Richard Jefferson.

The value of the mini midlevel exception will be further eroded this year with the exploding cap which will give the majority of teams more cap room than they can reasonably use.

Even guys who in the past may have been available for minimum deals may command more this offseason.

Solid wings are at a premium in the modern NBA. Guys who are legitimate 3 and D guys will command a small fortune this summer. Even decent backup wings will command far more than what the Cavs can offer. Seems very unlikely to me that the Cavs will be able to buy into the draft to get a viable wing player.

Cavs have some TPEs, of course, especially the one generated in the Varejao deal, but little to pair with them as a sweetener now that they don't have their 2018 pick.

Plus the Cavs will have to decide on JR Smith (who is turning 31), Delly (who is pretty much indispensable at this point), and Mozgov (coming off a bad season and turning 30). Who knows, maybe even Richard Jefferson will be offered more than what the Cavs can offer.

Personally speaking, if the Cavs somehow manage to win the championship this year, I'm not really going to worry about these issues.
 
It's still mind-boggling that Bob Meyers won Executive of the year for the '14-'15 season by signing Shaun Livingston and hiring Steve Kerr, while David Griffin was left in the cold after helping improve the Cavs by 20 wins in a single season after adding Lebron, Love, JR, Shump, Moz, James Jones, Marion, and Mike Miller in a single calendar year.

He even signed Kyrie Irving to a five-year max extension that's going to look better and better as the cap rises. Now that injuries aren't wrecking the team, it's obvious Griffin built an offensive juggernaut here.
 
Added Speights too. Did he rework Iggy's deal too? I can't remember.

The impression I get is that ESPN and the NBA to a lesser degree are ready to move on from LeBron to some younger star. I don't get it, but that's the impression I get sometimes.
 
Had to dig back to page 4 to find this thread, but Griff, you did it man.

It seems like every single effing move this guy made paid off. Every risk, every move worked out perfectly somehow.

The Frye trade... KILLED it. Had the balls to part ways with (used to be) fan fav Varejao and Frye was amazing for us all playoffs, even though he didn't play much in the Finals.

Richard Jefferson signing. I can't even begin to describe how well that worked out. RJ was our 3rd best player in some of these playoff games.

Mo and Dahntay. Didn't play much, but both had huge moments for us in the Finals.

The Blatt firing/Lue hiring mid season. What a risky move that was highly criticized, but completely paid off. Our team never bought in until we had Lue.

NICE JOB GRIFF!!! Now help us retool this offseason to become even better.
 
This man has achieved legendary status. The moves he made this season... He has balls the size of cantaloupes.

God bless you, David Griffin. Every single move you've ever made has made us a better team.

I trust your decisions in the future--I cannot second guess you anymore.

That said, I'll probably still bitch and moan some. But just know, deep down, I'll know you're right.
 
First questionable thing he's done was go on as long as he did about golden state at the parade today.

Great to see how uncomfortable that made the guys sitting behind him though
 
If we lose game 7, is he the GM next year?
 
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Huber. said:
If we lose game 7, is he th GM next year?
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I'd hope so. After the win, Griffin said he didn't do a good enough job constructing a team to beat the Warriors.

I'm very confident with the organization's leaders. Gilbert, Griffin, Lue, LeBron, and Kyrie is hopefully the start of something special.
 
David Griffin deserves a lot of credit for having the foresight to sign most of your core to long contracts under the old CBA. Sure the Cavs were mocked for having a historically onerous payroll this past season. But after this summer and next summer, the Cavs will still have most of their core pieces in place while other teams will be paying exorbitant money for similar talent. After Steph Curry's ridiculous under market contract (which will still turn into a $30 million-plus contract after next season), you could argue that Kyrie Irving has the best contract in the NBA. And the money you gave to Kevin Love isn't that bad compared to the $30 million max contracts that will be coming up soon. And Tristan Thompson's contract is looking like a bargain, given his durability and play, along with the sort of ridiculous money that teams are rumored to be throwing at other starting caliber bigs. Even Iman Shumpert, who clearly did not live up to his contract in year 1, is only taking up approximately 10% of the cap. The obvious exception is LBJ, but he is the rare player that would be underpaid even under the new CBA (on the free market he could probably fetch $80 million per year).

Compare that to the rest of the NBA. Contenders have to move contracts of solid players just to make room for the free agents they are interested in given the sheer size of free agent contracts. So many teams have cap space that having cap space isn't even an advantage. The excessive cap space has created a market where marginal role players are expected to get eight figures. The Knicks have cleared $30 million in cap space but that's only enough to get an injury-prone Joakim Noah and some filler. It's a new day for NBA salaries...well unless you are the Cavs, who get to pay the old rates for elite players thanks to smart planning from your management.
 
ACisKING said:
David Griffin deserves a lot of credit for having the foresight to sign most of your core to long contracts under the old CBA. Sure the Cavs were mocked for having a historically onerous payroll this past season. But after this summer and next summer, the Cavs will still have most of their core pieces in place while other teams will be paying exorbitant money for similar talent. After Steph Curry's ridiculous under market contract (which will still turn into a $30 million-plus contract after next season), you could argue that Kyrie Irving has the best contract in the NBA. And the money you gave to Kevin Love isn't that bad compared to the $30 million max contracts that will be coming up soon. And Tristan Thompson's contract is looking like a bargain, given his durability and play, along with the sort of ridiculous money that teams are rumored to be throwing at other starting caliber bigs. Even Iman Shumpert, who clearly did not live up to his contract in year 1, is only taking up approximately 10% of the cap. The obvious exception is LBJ, but he is the rare player that would be underpaid even under the new CBA (on the free market he could probably fetch $80 million per year).

Compare that to the rest of the NBA. Contenders have to move contracts of solid players just to make room for the free agents they are interested in given the sheer size of free agent contracts. So many teams have cap space that having cap space isn't even an advantage. The excessive cap space has created a market where marginal role players are expected to get eight figures. The Knicks have cleared $30 million in cap space but that's only enough to get an injury-prone Joakim Noah and some filler. It's a new day for NBA salaries...well unless you are the Cavs, who get to pay the old rates for elite players thanks to smart planning from your management.
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Really great post.

Courtney Lee is asking for $14M a year in the marketplace. Locking these guys up prior to cap explosion, and eating the tax this year was genius or lucky (prob a bit of both).

We are set up extremely well for next 5 years. Similar to the Buckeyes with Urban Meyer, enjoy it now because it won't always be this great.
 
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