The Expanse

[N7RobBob]

As a book reader, they casted Avasarala perfectly as Shoreh.

Then again I've always enjoyed her voice in the roles she has played. *SHRUG*

 

[Jack Brickman]

As a book reader, they casted Avasarala perfectly as Shoreh.

Then again I've always enjoyed her voice in the roles she has played. *SHRUG*

Yeah, I don’t mind her voice at all. And she is as perfect in that role as Dinklage was as Tyrion Lannister. She is the character from the books.

I also think she gets better later once the show moves to Amazon and she can fully unleash her expletives.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

Okay, I hate her less. Especially since I now get to hate Elizabeth Mitchell.

Show is really good. The political maneuvering is very credible.

 

[Jack Brickman]

Okay, I hate her less. Especially since I now get to hate Elizabeth Mitchell.

Show is really good. The political maneuvering is very credible.

You're in season three now? That's probably the show's best season. I'd say it's between three and five, although I'll need to rewatch six before I can really figure out where to put it. I've only seen each episode once.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

Damn was this show good.

Absolutely loved Camina Drummer. Just a great character, and really well acted.

Spoiler

I thought the way she handled herself at the final negotiation was brilliant. She was simultaneously nervous and angry, and her line about (paraphrase) her being expected to trust the word of an Inner, but Inners not being willing to take her word, just shut them all up. Feel like I want to read the books just to see where her character goes next.

 

[Jack Brickman]

Damn was this show good.

Absolutely loved Camina Drummer. Just a great character, and really well acted.

Spoiler

I thought the way she handled herself at the final negotiation was brilliant. She was simultaneously nervous and angry, and her line about (paraphrase) her being expected to trust the word of an Inner, but Inners not being willing to take her word, just shut them all up. Feel like I want to read the books just to see where her character goes next.

She's not the same character in the books. Show Drummer is really more Michio Pa from the books if I recall correctly.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

She's not the same character in the books. Show Drummer is really more Michio Pa from the books if I recall correctly.

Ah well.

I thought she and Ashford were the most consistent at showing the "otherness" of Belters in terms of their accents and mannerisms. Really helped to make the concept of Belters as a whole credible even though they couldn't portray that physically.

 

[Jack Brickman]

Ah well.

I thought she and Ashford were the most consistent at showing the "otherness" of Belters in terms of their accents and mannerisms. Really helped to make the concept of Belters as a whole credible even though they couldn't portray that physically.

The books have less of an issue portraying the Belters since you spend half of the first book in Miller's head and get a lot of info relayed to you that way. Naomi becomes a POV character at some point too, although I'm not sure exactly when.

The first book is just Miller and Holden (outside of the prologue and possibly the epilogue...don't remember if there's an epilogue or not), but the series expands to include the entire Roci crew eventually along with some other characters as well.

I highly recommend giving the books a read, though. I'm planning on doing my first full series re-read after I finish reading Robert Harris' trilogy about Cicero.

 

[N7RobBob]

Ah well.

I thought she and Ashford were the most consistent at showing the "otherness" of Belters in terms of their accents and mannerisms. Really helped to make the concept of Belters as a whole credible even though they couldn't portray that physically.

I loved Jared Harris's version of Anderson Dawes, wish we could've had more from him.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

I loved Jared Harris's version of Anderson Dawes, wish we could've had more from him.

He just vanished, so it was pretty obvious that he either got too expensive, or too busy. May have been Chernobyl.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

The books have less of an issue portraying the Belters since you spend half of the first book in Miller's head and get a lot of info relayed to you that way. Naomi becomes a POV character at some point too, although I'm not sure exactly when.

The first book is just Miller and Holden (outside of the prologue and possibly the epilogue...don't remember if there's an epilogue or not), but the series expands to include the entire Roci crew eventually along with some other characters as well.

I highly recommend giving the books a read, though. I'm planning on doing my first full series re-read after I finish reading Robert Harris' trilogy about Cicero.

Naomi was the one who really didn't fit for me in terms of seeming like a Belter. Other than the occasional attempts at the Belter creole, she seemed more of an Earther to me.

I did think the Robert Johnson factor was underplayed a bit. I mean, here's a guy that everyone believes murdered a bunch of Belters, yet Belters end up accepting him anyway. Especially Camina Drummer. To me, that said a ton about the potential open-mindedness of Belters and Drummer in particular. If any of the political players demonstrated the ability to get past their prejudices to work with their alleged "enemies", it was her. I was half expecting Holden to use that as an argument in her favor at some point.

I really thought he was another cleverly-written character with a great backstory.

 

[N7RobBob]

He just vanished, so it was pretty obvious that he either got too expensive, or too busy. May have been Chernobyl.

His character drops out of focus in the books, so it makes sense for him to do the same.

Dominic Tipper did a much better job with the hand gestures than the speaking. I wonder if that had something to do with her being a main character and them, showrunners(?) wanting to keep that towards the peripheral characters.

 

[Jack Brickman]

He just vanished, so it was pretty obvious that he either got too expensive, or too busy. May have been Chernobyl.

I think that Apple may have made him choose between The Expanse and a much more prominent (if not actually larger) role on Foundation.

In which case…

 

[N7RobBob]

I think that Apple may have made him choose between The Expanse and a much more prominent (if not actually larger) role on Foundation.

In which case…

I liked him and Lee Pace in Foundation.

 

[Jack Brickman]

I liked him and Lee Pace in Foundation.

I mean, he was fine in Foundation. Foundation just kind of sucked. Very pretty, but poorly written and structured.

Which is more or less what you'd expect from David Goyer.