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The Official Game of Thrones [A Song of Ice and Fire] Thread (includes spoilers)
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Don't forget about them ripping off the cinematic for the Lich King and his ice dragon from World of Warcraft. Hell, i'm not so sure that the Night King isn't some sort of melding of Darth Maul and The Lich King.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8vH0TaIDNY
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Rich keeps complaining about how D and D betrayed us, but I feel equally betrayed he did not eat the worm he promised.
Rich is not the prince that was promised.
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Yea the worm is coming. I was holding out some type of logical hope that they really didn't kill ALL the whitewalkers in one episode did they? Surely not. Surely they couldn't have, possibly, destroyed 7+ seasons of buildup in the middle of the fucking finale season in one episode?
D&D will never fail to surprise me.
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I had to think they would after we saw that white walker killed and all his wights dropped. If the night king died they would all die. Otherwise, no one could have stopped them at all.
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Right. And I'd be really shocked if the books don't have that same gimmick. Doesn't strike me as something D&D would have just made up on their own.
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Well somehow they stopped them before without killing them.....
Lol I can never rewatch this series again knowing all of the fantasy/magical plotlines go nowhere.
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View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0boC8JBBqqc
This rant, and review is basically how I felt. I thought this was all a parody. Love how Kings Landing basically looked untouched later, after Dany basically burned it all to the ashes.
It'd only take many, many years to rebuild it.
God this episode sucked balls badly.
This rant, and review is basically how I felt. I thought this was all a parody. Love how Kings Landing basically looked untouched later, after Dany basically burned it all to the ashes.
It'd only take many, many years to rebuild it.
God this episode sucked balls badly.
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I feel like the point of view way the books are set up were very important to the ends of alot of characters and D&D failed to realize that they couldn't directly adapt those ends that GRRM gave them to visual endings without some major changes. Alot of the major turning points of the stories needs a look into the internal emotions of the character that the tv world of game of thrones couldn't provide. Those internal emotions needed to be vocalized but if they were it would have created a whole nother set of issues.
Dany deciding to burn down Kings landing was something we needed to hear inside her head leading up to the bells ringing. The problem is they killed Missandei and Jorah who where her sounding board but also key parts in her going crazy.
Jaime leaving winterfell and Brienne to go to be with Cersei wasn't sequenced right because the only people Jaime has ever vocalized any true emotions emotions with is Tyrion, Brienne, and Cersei. He really needed Tyrion as the sounding board.
Jon killing Dany was another instant where the internal emotions he was feeling needed to be vocalized but if he had those conversations it ruins the lead up and we also know treasonous talk like that gets characters killed in this world.
Bran's whole storyline is internally driven. D&D failed to realize that when GRRM source material ran out. Him becoming king was never going to be earn with D&D writing it.
Even the Sansa storyline needed her internal emotions to give her some reference to why she needed the North to be an independent kingdom. I feel like it was way more about her creating a situation where she would feel safe for the rest of her life than about the Northern people and their independence from the 7 kingdoms. She had learned a long ago to not vocalize those emotions because it only got her into trouble thru out the story.
Dany deciding to burn down Kings landing was something we needed to hear inside her head leading up to the bells ringing. The problem is they killed Missandei and Jorah who where her sounding board but also key parts in her going crazy.
Jaime leaving winterfell and Brienne to go to be with Cersei wasn't sequenced right because the only people Jaime has ever vocalized any true emotions emotions with is Tyrion, Brienne, and Cersei. He really needed Tyrion as the sounding board.
Jon killing Dany was another instant where the internal emotions he was feeling needed to be vocalized but if he had those conversations it ruins the lead up and we also know treasonous talk like that gets characters killed in this world.
Bran's whole storyline is internally driven. D&D failed to realize that when GRRM source material ran out. Him becoming king was never going to be earn with D&D writing it.
Even the Sansa storyline needed her internal emotions to give her some reference to why she needed the North to be an independent kingdom. I feel like it was way more about her creating a situation where she would feel safe for the rest of her life than about the Northern people and their independence from the 7 kingdoms. She had learned a long ago to not vocalize those emotions because it only got her into trouble thru out the story.
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On long drives I like to have thought exercises. It's how some things on RCF, and other places, are created.
I was thinking, the whole system in Westeros is chaotic and needs to be changed.
Paramount Lords in control of these large geographic units is problematic. And without a hereditary monarchy to bind the kingdom together, Bran needs to re-order things.
1) As such, he needs to create three Lords Paramount of the Crown. Lords who have ample lands, in at least two different areas of the Kingdoms, and answer only to the Crown and not the Wardens.
They will hold enough land to raise at least 15,000 men on their own, and serve as counter-balances to the Wardens.
2) Changes indicative of House Lannister and the Westerlands being held responsible to some extent for the late War. Undoubtedly many Houses in all lands were in taint of treason.
3) The break-up of Tyrell lands due to extinction of that House and because the Reach is too powerful as it is.
4) Plus expanding the Crownlands at the expense of the Reach by direct annexation of its Northeastern portion, and compensating the Stormlands, for taking a bit off the top if it, with lands from the Reach. The Reach will receive 35% compensation, for its lands lost, from the Westerlands.
5) The Crown wishes to make Lady Ayra Stark, a great Lady of the Crown, even in her absence. She is granted the lands of extinct House Clegane, greatly augmented by the total forfeitted lands of House Swyft, including the Castle of Cornfield and 10% of contiguous Lannister lands.
New Lords of the Crown
Lord Davos, Lord Paramount of the Crown, Warden of the Sea.
Seat: Dragonstone.
Lands: In the Crownlands: all lands forfeit by House Brune, Dragonstone. Bannermen all former Dragonstone-sworn banners plus Wendwater and Rykker)
In the Stormlands: Davos lands on Cape Wrath, all lands forfeit from House Mertyns, 3/4s of the lands of extinct House Whitehead (remaining 25% of Whitehead lands given in pity and exchange to House Mertyns), including Weeping Town. With bannermen Mertyns, Rogers, Wylde sworn to Davos rather than Stormsend.
In the Reach: All the lands of extinct House Florent, augmented with some land from extinct House Tyrell. House Blackbar sworn to Davos rather than House Tarley (House Tarley now Warden of the Reach).Sam is going to work.
Lord Bronn, Lord Paramount of the Crown. Warden of Himself.
Seat: Highgarden.
Lands: In the Reach: 60% of extinct House Tyrell's lands (which is still considerable). Bannermen Vryrenel, Chester, Hewett, Grimm and Serry sworn to Highgarden rather than Horn Hill.
In the Westerlands: 25% of House Lannister's lands, Bannermen Crakehall and Swyft sworn to Highgarden rather than Casterly Rock.
In the Riverlands: 50% of the lands of Harrenhall.
Lady Brienne, Lady Paramount of the Crown.
Seat: The Twins.
Lands: In the Riverlands, the lands of extinct House Frey. Bannermen Blackwood and Mallister sworn to The Twins rather than Riverrun.
In the Westerlands: The forfeit lands of Lefford and Brax with the Castle of Golden Tooth. Bannermen Estreen, Banafort and Brax sworn to the Twins instead of Casterly Rock.
In the Reach: 35% of the lands of House Hightower, with the latter being compensated in the Westerlands.
And a bunch of other changes.
I was thinking, the whole system in Westeros is chaotic and needs to be changed.
Paramount Lords in control of these large geographic units is problematic. And without a hereditary monarchy to bind the kingdom together, Bran needs to re-order things.
1) As such, he needs to create three Lords Paramount of the Crown. Lords who have ample lands, in at least two different areas of the Kingdoms, and answer only to the Crown and not the Wardens.
They will hold enough land to raise at least 15,000 men on their own, and serve as counter-balances to the Wardens.
2) Changes indicative of House Lannister and the Westerlands being held responsible to some extent for the late War. Undoubtedly many Houses in all lands were in taint of treason.
3) The break-up of Tyrell lands due to extinction of that House and because the Reach is too powerful as it is.
4) Plus expanding the Crownlands at the expense of the Reach by direct annexation of its Northeastern portion, and compensating the Stormlands, for taking a bit off the top if it, with lands from the Reach. The Reach will receive 35% compensation, for its lands lost, from the Westerlands.
5) The Crown wishes to make Lady Ayra Stark, a great Lady of the Crown, even in her absence. She is granted the lands of extinct House Clegane, greatly augmented by the total forfeitted lands of House Swyft, including the Castle of Cornfield and 10% of contiguous Lannister lands.
New Lords of the Crown
Lord Davos, Lord Paramount of the Crown, Warden of the Sea.
Seat: Dragonstone.
Lands: In the Crownlands: all lands forfeit by House Brune, Dragonstone. Bannermen all former Dragonstone-sworn banners plus Wendwater and Rykker)
In the Stormlands: Davos lands on Cape Wrath, all lands forfeit from House Mertyns, 3/4s of the lands of extinct House Whitehead (remaining 25% of Whitehead lands given in pity and exchange to House Mertyns), including Weeping Town. With bannermen Mertyns, Rogers, Wylde sworn to Davos rather than Stormsend.
In the Reach: All the lands of extinct House Florent, augmented with some land from extinct House Tyrell. House Blackbar sworn to Davos rather than House Tarley (House Tarley now Warden of the Reach).Sam is going to work.
Lord Bronn, Lord Paramount of the Crown. Warden of Himself.
Seat: Highgarden.
Lands: In the Reach: 60% of extinct House Tyrell's lands (which is still considerable). Bannermen Vryrenel, Chester, Hewett, Grimm and Serry sworn to Highgarden rather than Horn Hill.
In the Westerlands: 25% of House Lannister's lands, Bannermen Crakehall and Swyft sworn to Highgarden rather than Casterly Rock.
In the Riverlands: 50% of the lands of Harrenhall.
Lady Brienne, Lady Paramount of the Crown.
Seat: The Twins.
Lands: In the Riverlands, the lands of extinct House Frey. Bannermen Blackwood and Mallister sworn to The Twins rather than Riverrun.
In the Westerlands: The forfeit lands of Lefford and Brax with the Castle of Golden Tooth. Bannermen Estreen, Banafort and Brax sworn to the Twins instead of Casterly Rock.
In the Reach: 35% of the lands of House Hightower, with the latter being compensated in the Westerlands.
And a bunch of other changes.
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I've come to realize that most tv shows are like rock stars- if they die young, they stay immortal and become legendary because they don't stick around long enough for their inspiration and creativity to wane and start mailing in their performances/going through the motions.
It's too bad that once they realized that Martin would never deliver the book on-time that they should have just ended it there. Seems like the fans were given a rather shortened stick the last 2 years.
It's too bad that once they realized that Martin would never deliver the book on-time that they should have just ended it there. Seems like the fans were given a rather shortened stick the last 2 years.
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I saw a video and Facebook I thought was funny, but it won't play off of FB. So screencaps:
Great thing about that is that some were funny, and some actually made sense. I do think the North would have been okay simply because it had lost so many people that the food supply should have lasted. Also, considering how many soldiers the North lost, seems like it would have quite the favorable ration for single guys.