gourimoko
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The deals with Sac and LAC would have left us weak amongst our bigs. Weaker than we are now. We couldn't give them what they needed to make the deal and been a stronger team. They needed to met our demands and they couldn't ...it obviosuly wasn't in the cards.
So, what other trades do you think he blew ? I'll try and enlighten you.
Hmm..
Okay.
1) Richard Jefferson: Michael Redd tears his ACL; Bogut is declared out for the season with a back injury. Richard Jefferson is obviously put on the market so that Sessions and Villanueva can resign in the offseason being that both will be offered large contracts from other teams and the Bucks had hoped to resign both. Prior to the Bucks playing through these serious injuries, Ferry should have picked up the phone and made it known that the Cavaliers were immediately interested in helping them dump this contract. The GM of one of the top 3 teams in the NBA should have thought that maybe the Bucks can retain their #8 seed, so I better jump now. Some info on that would be great.....
2) John Salmons and Brad Miller combo: You said more than once that we were trying to acquire Marcus Camby and John Salmons. I wonder what was going through Ferry's mind when the Clippers repeatedly told him to go **** himself and then Salmons and Miller got traded in a salary dump. Was Brad Miller really that much of a problem? Seriously? Because I just don't see it. Miller backs up Z perfectly and still leaves us with Varejao if we want to pick up the pace. Salmons is perhaps having a breakout season scoring 18+ ppg. According to your earlier post, Salmons wasn't the problem, and of course we'd start him. So if we wanted Salmons enough to tamper with our "chemistry" (by benching Delonte coming off an injury) why was taking on Miller's contract such a bad move? Especially considering he's a 2010 expiring and scoring 12 ppg. EDIT: Could you elaborate on what the Kings wanted from us, exactly?
3) Vince Carter: Multiple media sources, I'm sure you're aware, have reported that the Nets were desperately trying to ship Carter to Portland for LaFrentz and Outlaw but the deal fell through because Portland demanded the Nets ship a 1st round draft pick along with Carter. Now, once that deal fell through, or even before we got to that point, why didn't Ferry offer Wally+Sasha+1st or anything that didn't include a starter, Boobie, Delonte, or AV? From every report I've read, we weren't interested in Vince Carter. I find that fascinating considering we're rocking Wally Szczerbiak going into the playoffs. Nothing could be done with this, not a 3-way, nothing.. It was just impossible? Seriously? Or, and again I mean this not to be facetious but in all seriousness, was Danny Ferry hoping the Nets would get desperate and just take Wally and a pick?
4) Marcus Camby: I know Ferry was trying to get this done, that's not why I put him here. I listed Camby because at what point did Ferry realize this trade wasn't going to happen? I mean, I ask because it seems like Ferry was caught by the deadline at the last minute (hence, the nonsensical Shaq attempt). It just seems somewhat negligent that Ferry didn't have a plan B outside of Camby - and going back to the Salmons/Miller trade, it seems like he, again, got caught trying to do way too much. If we're talking risk/benefit, each one of those suppositions Ferry made is an individual risk (probability of failure) that has to be accounted for (and not via addition, lol). At what point did Ferry say to himself, "I'm depending on too many possibilities to break my way, the safest route (since I want John Salmons as my starting SG) is to just take on Brad Miller's expiring and trade it in the offseason (since I have this report in front of me suggesting that the upcoming summer will be filled with talent). This situation coupled with the Salmons trade (that we blew) just doesn't make sense to me at all. EDIT: Again, if you could be specific as to what the Clippers were asking for that was just too much, or that couldn't have been acquired in a 3-way trade?
5) Jason Richardson: When Phoenix was in destruction mode everyone suggested J-Rich would eventually be traded. I'd be interested at what point, if ever, did the Cavaliers inquire about J-Rich. What did we offer? Because if PHX was willing to part with Shaq for Wally+Sasha, then they obviously weren't planning on beating the Lakers let alone getting to the WCF. So... was J-Rich unavailable? I just find that hard to believe.
6) SHAQ: Danny Ferry doesn't want to mess with the chemistry of the team, but he wants to bench Big Z and bring in Shaq - or he thinks Shaq will play power forward (lol)? I mean, it's widely known we tried to acquire ****ing Shaq, man.. How ridiculous is that? If that was seriously thought out, then why didn't it happen before 2:00 PM today? I'm sure we could have worked it out over last week if that was the game plan? And there in lies the problem. Everything seems so haphazard, as if Ferry had all these grand schemes and when they started to collapse he desperately tried to do anything. When that didn't work he claims "we decided to stand pat." As if anyone is stupid enough to forget he was desperate to make a trade over the last 48 hours. Time ran out, that's all. Shaq??????????? Please explain WTF that is about? And did he really think PHX would take on Ben Wallace (who's not an expiring this year but next) over Wally Szczerbiak?
That's it off the top of my head... I know what happened with Jamison, so I didn't list it. Obviously Amare, and Butler weren't available for what we were offering. But the aforementioned players had all been shopped publicly and 3 of them weren't traded. It was widely known that we were 1 of 2 big time buyers (Portland - LaFrentz) this trade season, I just find it odd that we came up so short.
When you think about all the above options that we either passed on, waited too long and they floated away, or what have you, it just seems like this wasn't very well thought out. Especially when you consider the last minute attempt to acquire SHAQ. It's as if, "all this talk about chemistry be damned, Desperation-Attack-Go!" And once that failed, now it's "well, I planned it that way." Yeah, right.
And yes, I hear you when you say we had set and firm restrictions on who was and was not available for various players; however, if we were willing to risk our season on John Salmons as our starting shooting guard (who could be Larry Hughes all over again), or Shaq who would have totally changed our entire game (and benched Big Z) and perhaps ruined whatever chemistry we have, how can we say that not shifting our boundaries was the right thing to do? And what I mean by that is, if Anderson Varejao (who is now setup for a big payday from the Cavaliers) wasn't on the table for say Richard Jefferson and Charlie Villanueva (off the top of my head) then at what point did Ferry realize Wally Szczerbiak alone was not going to garner any significant improvements at any position for a championship caliber team? I mean, something has to be said for being able to make the big decisions, right?
Suffice it to say, I've gotten my point across and I hope respectfully, I'm not mad at you W&G - I know you're not responsible in anyway, shape, or form. But I think, for whatever reasons, someone is to blame for the Cavaliers not utilizing our expirings (especially Eric Snow) to try and make a deal, even perhaps a 3-way trade, come to fruition before the deadline. I really feel as though we missed a golden opportunity that may only come once more before LeBron decides what to do with his career.