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Which player would you like to see the Cavs get from either the Clippers or Warriors?


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Windhorst reported on ESPNCleveland yesterday that Cleveland was in talks about a possible "major trade" with a team out in California involving a lottery pick. This is referring to either the Clippers, Kings, or Warriors. He said that a trade should happen before the draft or either on Draft Night. Could we be seeing a possible acquire of PG Monta Ellis or SF Corey Maggette from the Warriors or possibly C Chris Kaman or PG Baron Davis from the Clippers?
 
This is totally new news to me.
 
Grant is already making a name for himself.
 
He didnt list names but those are the 4 I could see getting dealt if the trade were to happen
 
I see something very major in the works.

Something major in involving 3 or 4 teams. Something involving Chris Kaman to Cleveland. Also taking on Baron Davis's contract. Also picking up a draft pick.

Yes. I see it as that major. That would be major.
 
I see something very major in the works.

Something major in involving 3 or 4 teams. Something involving Chris Kaman to Cleveland. Also taking on Baron Davis's contract. Also picking up a draft pick.

Yes. I see it as that major. That would be major.

Don't think it's really what we need though.
 
I'd much rather have Kaman and Baron over Maggette and Ellis. Kaman is probably the most underrated center in the NBA.
 
I don't want anyone from the Kings, Clippers, or Warriors
 
I see something very major in the works.

Something major in involving 3 or 4 teams. Something involving Chris Kaman to Cleveland. Also taking on Baron Davis's contract. Also picking up a draft pick.

Yes. I see it as that major. That would be major.

I'd love Kaman on the Cavs. He's good on offense and rebounds well. I'm not sure what his defense is like but I'd imagine it isn't too good. Best part: he's under 30.

Baron Davis is not the ideal fit for our team and he has a pretty bad contract. At least he was a warrior (not pun intended) in the playoffs for Golden State.

Lottery pick? Count me in.

At this point, as long as LeBron is happy with the decisions made, I am too.

EDIT- And for the people saying none of the four above, who is gonna play Center next year?

EDIT 2- And I know everyone is hoping the Cavs go for a really big name like Bosh, Amare, Gay, or Johnson, but being realistic it's very unlikely any of these happen. I know we can offer Toronto a decent package for Bosh, but other teams will be right there with us.
 
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My take is that it's probably Mo heading out and it's for either Ellis or Baron. With other pieces involved, of course. I can't see it being Sacramento, and I'm not sure the Clips are willing to trade Kaman. It very well could be Maggette though, but if that is the case, I am guessing it would be for Jamison.

Posters keep throwing Randolph's name in the talks, but why would the Warriors trade Randolph, Ellis, & the 6th pick? Makes very little sense, as they have shown before they highly value Randolph and now they are going to throw him away along with their draft pick. I don't think so.

My hunch tells me it's Baron Davis. Although the thought of a pick being involved would lead me to think it may likely be Ellis as the Warriors would seem more likely to ship a pick then the Clips with only 6 players under contract for next season as of right now.

Frankly, I probably pull the trigger on either deal. Part of me would rather do Jamison for Maggette though. Adding Baron would give the Cavs a legit #2 scoring option and I think playing with LeBron would motivate Baron. Davis would give the Cavs more size at the point and more playmaking. I think his numbers would improve some because he'd take fewer bad shots in Cleveland as the #2 option compared to LA as the #1 option.

Ellis is less of a playmaker, but a more explosive scorer. His younger legs would be better defensively, but he'd need to learn to play at that end. Not quite sure about his attitude.

Maggette for Jamison would be interesting as I'm not very high on Jamison and think Maggette could give the Cavs an interesting lineup next to LeBron. The frontcourt would need help. Adding Turiaf would be a nice way to toughen it up.

I like Kaman's game, but don't see why LAC would deal him. Only thing I can come up with is they want to sell Kaman while his value is high and open up minutes for DeAndre Jordan. Unless JJ Hickson is part of that deal. Wouldn't he HAVE to be?


Mo and D West for Baron and #8

OR

Mo and D West for Ellis and #6.

Or something along those lines, that's what my hunch is. I'd make either deal, probably prefer Baron Davis. Even though his numbers are iffy, I think he's a legit top tier talent who just needs a change of scenery and the thought that maybe he could win a title.
 
Reshuffled front office isn't slowing Cleveland Cavaliers' off-season trade explorations
By Brian Windhorst, The Plain Dealer
June 05, 2010, 8:21PM

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- One message has become quite clear since the Cavaliers' season ended just three weeks ago. Team owner Dan Gilbert is not interested in status quo.

He's fired the coach, accepted the resignation of the general manager and there are no signs of stopping.

Gilbert has qualified these moves by saying he will not be afraid to take risks. Or as he said Friday: "The unknown is just that."

With that in mind, league sources have indicated the Cavs have begun to consider taking some risks with their roster. That may even include seeing if a trade makes sense for one of the most popular players on the team.

According to multiple league sources, the Cavs are testing the trade value for point guard Mo Williams, among other players. It is part of what appears to be an effort to tweak the entire backcourt, as Delonte West is also on the trade block.

These talks are being piloted, sources said, by new general manager Chris Grant. However, the decision to determine Williams' value could mostly be the result of the two weeks of in-depth conversations led by Gilbert on the state of the team. The products of those talks resulted in the firing of Mike Brown and Danny Ferry's decision not to seek another contract.

It is not assured that the Cavs will make a deal. This is the time of year when teams amp up trade discussions prior to the draft. Last year, the Cavs traded for Shaquille O'Neal the day before the draft but started the discussions for that deal in the first week of June.

Williams has been the best scoring guard LeBron James has played with in his career. Because he can play both off the ball and with the ball effectively, he has proven to be an excellent fit with James, who usually has the ball in his hands.

This season, Williams increased his assists and did not complain when his shots went down as O'Neal and Antawn Jamison joined the team. He is well liked within the locker room as well. In 150 regular-season games, Williams has averaged 16.9 points and shot 45 percent from the field.

In other words, he's been a valuable player.

But in 25 playoff games, Williams' scoring and shooting percentages have dropped even as his minutes have gone up. He has not performed well under the postseason pressure and at times has gotten down on himself.

This seems to be what might be concerning the Cavs as they evaluate their team. After winning 127 games over two seasons but coming up short of even making the Finals, they are reassessing what they really have.

"One thing we've learned is how different the postseason is from the regular season," Gilbert said.

Williams' defense is another issue. While he's generally improved defensively over the last two years, the Cavs have matchup disadvantages with top teams in the East. Williams was limited in what he could do defensively against Derrick Rose of the Bulls in the first round and Rajon Rondo in the second round.

Had the Cavs advanced, Jameer Nelson of the Magic might have been an issue in the conference finals.

Over the last two playoff years, Williams has often been removed from guarding the opposing point guard in favor of players Brown felt were better matchups.

Nonetheless, he is a former All-Star and getting fair return value might be a challenge or just impossible. That is what the team seems to be determining at the moment.

Williams has three years and $26 million left on his contract and that will make it harder to move him. However, in an uncommon circumstance, his deal actually reduces in annual salary after the 2010-11 season. Also, Williams has opt out clauses after each of the next two seasons.

As for West, the motives for a trade may be different. Just as it is hard to believe the Cavs might want to trade Williams, just a year ago West seemed like he was going to be a core player for the foreseeable future. Especially because West had a history of increasing his level of play in the postseason and is a strong defensive player.

West's level of play fell off this past season as he battled both legal and emotional problems that contributed to losing his starting job. But that might not be the central reason the Cavs would look to trade West -- it is because of his contract.

Scheduled to make $4.6 million next season, West is only guaranteed $500,000 if he's waived by Aug. 5. That means a team could save a significant amount of money by trading for and then releasing West. Savings like that is hard to get in the summer, and West's style of contract makes him one of the Cavs' biggest trade assets.

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If we were able to bring in Baron Davis, Chris Kaman, AND snag a lottery pick in the process, this would improve our team leaps and bounds providing LeBron stays.

I know he's been hurt a lot in his career, but when he's on the court, I don't think any fan of the NBA will say they'd take Mo Williams over Baron Davis. Davis is a better passer, a better defender, taller, and has about the same proficiency in his jumper. The only downside to him is that he's older than Mo and his contract is a little worse, but it was already said earlier in this thread, dude is a warrior in the playoffs.

Kaman was an All-Star last year, and is one of the most underrated players in the league now that he's finally grasping everything. I'd LOVE to be able to rely on a young, tough C like Chris Kaman.

And finally, adding the #8 overall pick allows us for a TON of flexibility come picking time. If Kaman is acquired, that obviously lessens the need for a young guy like Greg Monroe and allows us to focus on getting a nice, young wing player to groom next to LBJ. Perhaps someone like Paul George or Xavier Henry?

Either way, whether it's Maggette, Ellis, and the #6, a combination of the three, or what was posted above, if we can get this kind of deal done for Mo and Delonte, this is going to be a better team than it was with those two on it.
 

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