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[caf]

Yeah. You should they are much less expensive for society and condoms are free. You can get them lots of places like health clinics and planned Parenthood. I don't think you realize that paying for birth control is less than paying for the kid. For everyone. I know you have to believe everything they tell you, but let's go to a proverb. A penny of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

... I do realize that. That's why I pay for birth control.

 

[Cavatt]

Apparently women who are pro-life aren't welcome at these marches. Some friends of my wife were verbally attacked, threatened and aggressively told to gtfo. Some of the younger members of the pro-life group were so upset they cried the whole drive home in the van. So pro-life feminist women can't march, but transgenders with penises can march and demand equal rights as a woman...makes perfect freaking sense.

Women's March supports 100% equality...unless you are a pro-life woman. Idiotic.

Uhhhh one of the big reasons for the March is reproductive rights.

what are they protesting exactly they're getting exactly what they want.

 

[Cavatt]

What?

I may be an asshole but a rape victim not wanting to tell someone they are raped is a psychological issue and not my asshole's problem.

You're inferring a rape victim is at fault for being raped? That's absolutely ridiculous.

You said fear of being raped is a personal problem that's bullshit

 

[caf]

... goddammit LeBron.

 

[Cavatt]

... I do realize that. That's why I pay for birth control.

Maybe you don't know but the insurance companies were the ones that suggested free birth control. As a business they think that it's a good idea capitalistically to prevent births. So what possible reason could you have against it?. That's what they want to do with their business why won't you allow them.

 

[David.]

First women are more likely to experience violence against them by a man than the reverse. Statistics.

2 Second planned Parenthood and access to both control and abortion are on the docket as things to be gotten rid of right now. Pregnancy isn't protected as much once the ACA is repealed. Deaths from cancer go up when they close planned Parenthood as does maternal death during pregnancy. These are things women care about.

3 Lastly, if you have a woman in your life that has hurt you, done you wrong. It's almost always because her dad is a piece of shit and has done her wrong. So we are back where we started.

4 Free drinks showing women are privileged is so shallow. Get a life. It's easy to get free drinks. Have a conversation with someone. If you are interesting a man or a woman will often offer you a drink. I also know people who have gotten free drinks that are drugged. Women live in constant fear of being raped. That sucks.

good points, ill discuss.. if we start getting into this stuff, civilly, ill be more apt to research stats I dont hvae, but so far we havent gotten there.

1. show me stats and Ill consider them. i think its very hard to get factually correct stats considering the non reporting of them. Anecdotally, ive never hit a woman. Ive been attacked by several. I guarantee the reporting of women on male violence is ridiculously underreported, even moreso than male violence on women, but I wouldnt rule your point out entirely because we are genetically more aggressive. but I need to be convinced with stats that account for non reporting in a way that a reasonable person woudl accept.

1b men are more likely to get raped than women, if considering prison.

1c there is already laws that put men in jail for violence towards women.. bringing awareness to 'its wrong to hit a women, in events that are not of sixth sigma outlierdom is bad' isnt going to make the dude that hits women, not hit women.

2. planned parenthood is a complex issue. they take tax dollars and donate it to democratic campaigns. the right has interest in disbanding this organization for many reasons, such as abortion (half the country is anti abortion), selling of fetal tissue (have not researched the videos myself), the idea that taxes shouldnt go to this shit (buy your own birth control, its.. fucking inexpensive as shit). trey gowdy has made point that they wish to make other providers able to give the same procedures and benefits pp gives available to everyone at the same cost, so long as its not through planned parenthood specifically.. this is bsed on the idea that not everything they do is Kosher, and they are a huge money laundering, democratic campaign funding behemoth.

3. so its a guys fault if a woman does anything bad? thats sexist and revokes responsibility from females. this argument basically means, women can do no wrong, and if they do, its because its a guys fault. i dont agree with that. we have free will. relatinships can always get sticky. you can always do the right thing, and saying women are this poor class that arent even capable of doing the right thing bc theyre victim of bad parenting, minimlizes women.. theyre very capable people.

3b. this is also saying 'a man that does wrong to a woman is not responsible for his actions, because similiarly, he is perpetuating a cycle of use of violence he witnessed growing up'. this takes away personal responsibility. murders arent really at fault, bad childhood and genetics and brain wiring. it also contradicts your statement earlier about physical violence from a man. women dont get a free pass and men get all the blame for everything thats ever happened. they get the blame for their own actions, they get blamed for womens actions.. this is a lot of blame, and it doesnt seem to actually be equal, which afterall, we are fighting for today.

4. ive dated a lot. a lot a lot. i can count on one finger the times Ive had my first meal paid for by my date. 99% (and that is an actual statistic of my experience) means I pay. there is an obvious exchange and to ignore it wouldnt be realistic. sex and money. women get providers, men spread seed. i dont drink, i guarantee you women get drinks bought as an opening line.. sixth sigma more likely than men. this isnt the end of the gap that feminists ARENT fighting for, and i dont want to use a dirty word, but it is a strawman argument.

feminists want equality.. this means they should relook at alimony, fight against rape in prisons, they'd be marching saudi arabia and against hillary clinton who was funded by them, because of how they treat women. hint: stoning and murdering and actual oppression, like full burkas and actual rape culture and not being able to drive.

theyre not fighting this. theyre fighting things like 'wage gap (non existent), and planned parenthood (most women are anti abortion).

like EVERY OTHER PROTECTED GROUP, theyre only inherently looking for ways theyre protected group is at a disadvantage and not adressing ALL inequalities. this means they fight to get everything they are at a disadvantage of evened out, and tell you what, almost all of it is, but theyre not fighting against the advantages they have.. alimony, the idea of wining and dining, custody battles, men's choice in abortion, being on the hook for 18 years of child support for a kid they dont want, not being able to have a kid they want because the female doesnt, the marginilization of rape claims BECAUSE there isnt a protest against false rape claims that actually ruin men's lives..

if youre a protected group, you get to fight for prileges and its considered progressive, but especially in male/female conversation, theres a balance to life that isnt considered in some of this. If men are supposed to provide, wine and dine, lose half their assets if i.. want a divoce, OR IF MY WIFE FINDS SOMEONE ELSE AND LEAVES ME and then gets to take my house, even if she hasnt worked a day in her life, SHOULDNT men get paid more??

..if women get paid less for the same job, who the fuck would ever hire a man? just save .22 on the dollar and boom, profit margin. no more glass ceiling, women have all the jobs, companies flourish.. its almost like theres a lot more to consider than the misinfo thats being pushed around by most people (not saying you, but 77 cents is absolutely false. and NO ONE is having conversations that Im having, this debate is my own, its not repeating a talking heads talking points).

 

[David.]

It's

A man can cut and run after a pregnancy, it happens all the time.

sure, if you want your wages garnished and to lose driving privileges and go to jail.


i agree with pro choice, because we simpyl have to deal with overpopulation. theres too many people, and theyre being born into bad situations.

 

[caf]

Maybe you don't know but the insurance companies were the ones that suggested free birth control. As a business they think that it's a good idea capitalistically to prevent births. So what possible reason could you have against it?. That's what they want to do with their business why won't you allow them.

So if a go into Giant Eagle and show them my insurance card my insurance will cover it?

 

[caf]

Duplicate.

 

[Otsego Mar]

sure, if you want your wages garnished and to lose driving privileges and go to jail.


i agree with pro choice, because we simpyl have to deal with overpopulation. theres too many people, and theyre being born into bad situations.

The ONLY places that are overpopulated are metropolitan areas. Period.

This Earth could hold 100 billion people if they all cleaned up their act.

 

[David.]

....no.

Let's start with this: would you say that women should be more careful when alone in public than men?

give em guns.

lol.


im with you on this, to ignore the fact that theyre more at risk would be stupid. clarifying for people that think im way right on social issues.

 

[col63onel]

View: https://twitter.com/WFNYScott/status/822845468518518784

 

[David.]

The ONLY places that are overpopulated are metropolitan areas. Period.

This Earth could hold 100 billion people if they all cleaned up their act.

what would they do for work?

and a shitty person is a strain on society. non beneficial. dont have them grow up in bad homes. dont give a 15 year old a kid when she cant eve ntake care of herself, its normally not going to go well.

 

[David.]

View: https://twitter.com/WFNYScott/status/822845468518518784

thats marriage material.

 

[Damien O'Connel]

So which opinions are right?

I'm sure you'll be happy to tell me.

Climate change is real. Gay people can get married. Institutional racism exists.