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Ty Lue is a great coach. Has the balls to bench 2 all stars the entire 4th quarter to go with the line up that is working.

This game better be a wake up call for kyrie and love to start making more of an effort on D.
 
That was Indiana shitting the bed as an all-time-great player asserted himself on the court.

Had literally ZERO to do this with this coattail-riding turd.
Hahahahaha

Aw. Somebodies upset we won.

Isn't it interesting how all great coaches who have won multiple titles coached some of the top players to ever play the game. Are they all coat-tail riders too?
 
Hahahahaha

Aw. Somebodies upset we won.

Isn't it interesting how all great coaches who have won multiple titles coached some of the top players to ever play the game. Are they all coat-tail riders too?
LeBron played the entire 2nd half and did what all players considered top 3 in their respective sport did...he exerted his dominance and galvanized his troops behind him.

Lue is not some coaching mastermind because he left that guy out on the floor, but keep trying to convince yourself that a puppet coach choosing to leave that guy in and do his thing is brilliant orchestration.
 
Got give him props. It's just about time to do away with what was not working. I like the popavich motto of if you don't play d or hit shots you don't play! I think he adopted that tonight.
 
Isn't it interesting how all great coaches who have won multiple titles coached some of the top players to ever play the game. Are they all coat-tail riders too?

Ask Mike Brown?

JK he’s never won anything :chuckle:
 
LeBron played the entire 2nd half and did what all players considered top 3 in their respective sport did...he exerted his dominance and galvanized his troops behind him.

Lue is not some coaching mastermind because he left that guy out on the floor, but keep trying to convince yourself that a puppet coach choosing to leave that guy in and do his thing is brilliant orchestration.
He also took out our defensive liabilites off the floor. I don't really care for the man either but today his brain was actually working.
 
LeBron played the entire 2nd half and did what all players considered top 3 in their respective sport did...he exerted his dominance and galvanized his troops behind him.

Lue is not some coaching mastermind because he left that guy out on the floor, but keep trying to convince yourself that a puppet coach choosing to leave that guy in and do his thing is brilliant orchestration.

So what again were Lue's coaching deficiencies in tonight's game?
 
He also took out our defensive liabilites off the floor. I don't really care for the man either but today his brain was actually working.
They would have still be on the floor if they were proving themselves worth a damn on the offensive end. When haven't they been? Lue has always willingly exchanged porous defense for dynamic offense.

Tonight neither was bringing it. That's why they rode the pine.
 
Question: If the issue in the 1st half was effort and defense from the starters, than how is it that Lue supposedly coached such a bad game?

Because obviously if guys like Channing and Korver can contribute to really good defense in the second half, a system does exist and is being taught to all the players.

So a good defensive half means there is a system that works? But a bad one means....what now?

Lets get something straight. Indiana is not an offensive juggernaut, and up and until the 2nd half they had been shredding us this series. So if you want to tell me Lue has a system the works, Im gonna need a better good defense to bad defense ratio.
 
I assume that we sat KI and Love because the LBJ + Shooters lineup was dominant. It was a smart move -- ballsy maybe -- but it's pretty standard for coaches to stick with lineups that are working.

I thought Lue made a mistake in not bringing KI back into the game at about 45 seconds (when it was going to come down to FTs), I'd have felt a lot more comfortable with KI handling the ball and taking FTs down the stretch, rather than LBJ/Smith/Williams.
 
So what again were Lue's coaching deficiencies in tonight's game?

So the 25 point deficit, horrible team effort, in the first half, had zero to do with Ty?

Look, I didn't see the second the half for superstitious reasons, but if he continued not putting LBJ on George, that will be his big coaching win this series. Close games don't matter if we win all of them while not having LBJ guard George. So, props to Lie for that.
 
LOL at all the red Xs when it's irrefutably true that it took an all-time performance from a 1st ballot Hall of Famer and possibly GOAT player to win the game as opposed to some crafty, well-thought-out plan from the bonehead parading as our coach.

The suggestion that Lue has a defensive "system" is totally abolished by the fact that our victory tied the largest comeback ever in playoff history.

Tell ya what...we do this multiple times and I'll concede that Lue had a hand in tonight's win.
 
That was Indiana shitting the bed as an all-time-great player asserted himself on the court.

Had literally ZERO to do this with this coattail-riding turd.


Just not true.

The contested shot % went way up, the paint points went way down, the paint fg% went way down. We started getting turnovers, we picked up the ball handler sooner. By every metric and every eye test, the Cavaliers had a great second half from a defensive standpoint.

Yeah he rode LeBron, but he also found a line-up that worked and stuck with it despite changing a lot of his normal substitution patterns.

The team went into half-time down like 26. Adjustments were made, changes were made, and we won the game.

Yes, LeBron lead the charge. His greatness is irreplaceable. It's impossibly to even quantify his value.

But if Lue got a lot of blame for the first half, he also gets a lot of credit for the second half.

Furthermore, when the game got tight in the fourth and we needed good plays coming out of timeouts, he delivered us great looks time and time again. He is one of the best in the league at drawing up plays coming out of timeouts, and that is a fact that is backed up by statistics. Yet i never see you even giving him credit for that kind of stuff. He literally is probably a top 3-5 coach at drawing up stuff out of a timeout. Right up there with Pops/Carlisle statistically on ATO's.

He did a good job riding the hot line-up, and he also did a good job taking well-placed timeouts in the 4th quarter, to kind of "steal" LeBron and the rest of the guys a couple of minutes rest. And he was able to keep them fresh the entire way by doing things that way.

Criticism is fair where it is deserved, but he also deserves some credit. You just are so biased towards the narrative you've created for Lue that you refuse to even consider that the truth is often somewhere in the middle.
 

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