Welcome 8th Pick from Brooklyn

[cavsfever]

Um...I don't think Doncic, Ayton, Jackson, Bagley, Porter, Bamba, and Young can *all* go #1

yes, but there are a number of guys in that list I wouldn't put over Adams. I don't agree with others who see five or even seven can't miss picks in this draft. I think it's closer to three, especially for a team like us that can't afford to wait years to develop somebody because we are already competing for a championship.

 

[CTownSportsFan]

Agreed that's why I said that getting the #1 pick in this year's draft would change the calculation on trading it. But right now this pick is forecast to be around #7. I'd trade the 7 pick for Adams.

And as for KLove, Adams is the perfect center to put next to KLove at the four. He covers for all Love's physical shortcomings on defense.

I completely agree Adams playing next to Love would be awesome but the thing is, it would be nearly impossible to afford LeBron Love And Adams on the same teams without going all scrub bench guys .

 

[Nathan S]

yes, but there are a number of guys in that list I wouldn't put over Adams. I don't agree with others who see five or even seven can't miss picks in this draft. I think it's closer to three, especially for a team like us that can't afford to wait years to develop somebody because we are already competing for a championship.

I'm talking about the trade value of those prospects, not their immediate value to this team. Barring injuries (knock on wood) I think most of those guys will have more trade value this summer than Wiggins had when we traded him for Love. You virtually never see prospects of that quality traded unless it's for a superstar in the middle of his prime (e.g. the Love trade).

 

[TitleTown]

Youre still talking about Adams???

HE WON'T BE TRADED.

THIS ISN'T 2K

 

[CavsFanJapan]

When we traded Wiggins we got arguably a top-10 player in the league at the time in Love. Trading this pick for a roleplayer like Adams would be idiotic.

I thought that the deal was for Bennett and Wiggins was a throw-in. So in that case, Adams > Bennett

 

[priceFTW]

Data for this year --

Detroit Pistons defensive rating with Drummond ON: 110.5
Detroit Pistons defensive rating with Drummond OFF: 107.9

OKC Thunder defensive rating with Adams ON: 108.5
OKC Thunder defensive rating with Adams OFF: 110.5

Not only that, but the Pistons have only been better defensively in one season Drummond has played.

2013: .4 points per 100 possessions worse
2014: 3.4 per 100 worse
2015: 3.9 per 100 worse
2016: 3.7 per 100 better
2017: 10.3 per 100 worse
2018: 4.6 per 100 worse

There’s a variety of reasons for this as have been pointed out. Defensive anchors have to have a different set of skills to make “defensive anchor impact” in today’s game. Drummond has shown thst he might have those skills physically (potentially), he doesn’t show them in court and doesn’t read plays well enough to provide positive defensive impact, let alone “defensive anchor impact.”

—A different era, but Mutumbo made a positive defensive impact when he was 40 and 41 years old (who knows—maybe he was really 44 and 45 or whatever) with the Rockets being around 2 points per 100 better defensively although seem if they was strsight garbage time.
—Duncan made a near DPoTY impact in his late 30s (4.8 points per 100 better defensively with him ON even on an all time great defensive team)
—Hakeem made quite a bit of impact defensively at 38 and 39 in Toronto.

These anchors are almost always anchors from the very beginning. Anchors need to be able to defend in space now and sometimes chase people around, but you see even in college who has the likelihood of being an anchor defensively which is why players like Bagley or Ayton who should be anchors in college by virtue of their physical superiority against especially non-conference subpar competition really aren’t.

 

[Nathan S]

Vegas win total lines for the bottom 10 teams (link):

Suns ---- 24
Kings --- 24.5
Hawks -- 25.5
Nets ---- 27
Magic --- 27.5*
Grizz ---- 27.5
Mavs ---- 27.5
Bulls ---- 28
Knicks -- 30.5
Lakers -- 32.5

This pretty much agrees with what people have been saying. Lack of talent combined with high tanking incentive will make the Suns, Kings, and Hawks hard to keep up with down the stretch, even if the Nets continue to play very badly. The Magic, Grizzlies, Mavs, and Bulls, on the other hand, have a little more talent and perhaps a little more pride as organizations, and the Nets could very well end up with a worse record than any or all of those teams.


*The Magic are +110 to go over 28.5, -130 to go under 28.5, so I adjusted their line to 27.5 after a rough mental calculation.

 

[Out of the Rafters at the Q]

I don’t think scoring unassisted as a big is a positive, I agree. Adams is going to to get fed more because he has better teammates. Drummond has nobody that caliber to feed him and make his life easy. Drummond is shooting better from the line on more attempts per game also.

Wow, I had no idea Drummond improved his FT% that much this year. From a career 38% up to 62.5% this year. That's a huge improvement.

 

[Sir'Dom Pointer]

Vegas win total lines for the bottom 10 teams (link):

Suns ---- 24
Kings --- 24.5
Hawks -- 25.5
Nets ---- 27
Magic --- 27.5*
Grizz ---- 27.5
Mavs ---- 27.5
Bulls ---- 28
Knicks -- 30.5
Lakers -- 32.5

This pretty much agrees with what people have been saying. Lack of talent combined with high tanking incentive will make the Suns, Kings, and Hawks hard to keep up with down the stretch, even if the Nets continue to play very badly. The Magic, Grizzlies, Mavs, and Bulls, on the other hand, have a little more talent and perhaps a little more pride as organizations, and the Nets could very well end up with a worse record than any or all of those teams.


*The Magic are +110 to go over 28.5, -130 to go under 28.5, so I adjusted their line to 27.5 after a rough mental calculation.

Should have rested Lebron right after the trades and lose against the Hawks.

Never should have lost against the Nets as well. Those two wins would have made this a projected top 3 pick.

 

[iWx]

View: https://twitter.com/ErikHorneOK/status/964970319441100800

 

[Nathan S]

Why the heck did the Cavs bear the Hawks right after the trades? Perfect game to rest Lebron and lose.

I also just can't believe we lost to the Nets... just those two wins makes that pick a projected top 3 pick.

Cavs still have two games left against the Nets...if we lose either of those this board is gonna erupt

 

[Sir'Dom Pointer]

Cavs still have two games left against the Nets...if we lose either of those this board is gonna erupt

For sure... that would be gut wrenching.

 

[Cavs Need To Win]

They better not lose again to the Nets........ They won't. It won't happen. I feel better about this draft pick now that I did awhile ago. Glad the Nets have come back down to Earth.

 

[The Wizard of Moz]

And there’s DinGod with a clutch 3 pointer to come from behind and win round 1 of the skills competition

If there was betting on this competition and any of you didn’t pick DinGod then please explain why you hate money

And DinGod with another clutch first make on the 3 point shot to come from behind for the win to get to the finals

And predictably to probably only Cavs fans DinGod wins the final quite easily. I really wish I would have known he was in this I bet you could’ve gotten great odds on him winning

 

[The Red Viper]

GOATwiddie gonna win the Skills Challenge.