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Why Laker Fans/Laker Games are the defintion of douchebaggery.

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Wow, so going into this article, I expected the writer to just hate on the Lakers in every way. But I was surprised, the guy is pretty cool I suppose. Basically everything he said about the Lakers was positive, except the part the original poster bolded... He mentioned that our pre-game atmosphere, in-game atmosphere, in-game entertainment, Kobe Bryant, everything is better than the Clippers. Until you get to most fans, which yea... I wish Staples was louder.

Doughboy, you can't just have the posters here thinking real fans never go to Lakers games and don't wear (or need to wear) gear or only sit in the 300s. I couldn't go to any games this past season (no time/money, tickets do cost a damn lot), but I went to 3 games in 06-07, and 3 games in 07-08. I sat in the 100s every time, each ticket costing around $150-$230 I'd say off of ebay. My best seats were actually for game 1 of the first round in 2008, against the Nuggets when Pau had his monster game... I sat behind the basket in the 5th row on the floor, tickets for that we somehow got basically at face value on ebay (under $200)... I have no idea how that happened.

Honestly, I am usually the loudest person from where I sit. When games get close of course it gets loud, but I'm always trying to yell at the opposing team and chant de-fense and overall just scream and support the team. There's a shitload of fake people but the shittiness of the Staples Lakers experience is overrated, there's a lot of great fans even in the 100s (a lot of season ticket holders that have a love for the team) and it is always fun. Don't get it twisted.

That's not what I'm trying to do at all. During the playoffs, it seems like our fans finally wake up and rightfully so, everything is now on the line. But during the regular season, you can hear a pin drop after the Lakers have just gone on a 10-0 run. Maybe it's that lighting the floor and darkening the crowd, which I actually like. It makes people pay attention to the game instead of looking for the celebs.

And as far as gear, that was just me in particular. The 300 section is the liveliest part of the Lakers' game. Not saying the 200 and 100 crew are bad but they're made up of a lot of suit and tie, old folks who really need to be up there in the 300 section and let the 300 crew come down ....
 
Leonardo is a lifelong Red Sox/Celtics fan, was wearing a Celtics hat in the finals and was quoted as being a fan.

http://www.boston.com/ae/celebrity/articles/2008/04/22/stars_illuminate_celtics_garden_party/

Thanks for coming out.

Thats hard to believe when he grew up in LA and has come to a crap load of games since the 90s. Im not saying I know for a fact but saying thats hard to believe how does an LA kid who now has Lakers season tickets be a lifelong Celtics fan?

And as for the op do you have any stats on most LA transplants rooting for the Clippers, because that seems like a clear lie. Whether I like it or not Lakers are one of the biggest bandwagon teams in sports. Im pretty sure transplant LA people are rooting on the Lakers before the Clippers.

I dont like the Yankees so I understand the reasoning for the hate. Clearly every team has fans that like to rub it in after a loss, but when a Laker a Yankee team does it to BorntobeCLE they get their panties in a bunch and it really hurts them and makes them make posts like this. Theirs douche Laker fans that talk crap and theres douche Cavs fans that talk crap like BorntobeCLE. Then theres more reasonable ones for every team.


Dont you love it though when a teams fan makes a douche post calling other teams fans douches. Oh the irony. He probably doesnt even think hes a douche which makes it funnier.
 
Is this a Lakers board all of a sudden? Damn!

The Lakers are always going to have that star power, on the court and in the stands. And this is why they have so many "fans".

I was never a fan of the Lakers, never will be. I despise their "fans" as well. All respect to Jack though, that's about it.
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I've gone to 5 laker games my entire life (been a laker fan since mid 90s)... and that article couldn't be more right about the crowds who attend those games, but your title couldnt be any more wrong.

IF the true fans got in there im sure they would bring the house down. Most real fans cant afford to pay 200$ for REASONABLE SEATS (let alone the 100s area where they got ~400) and if they can, they usually cant get anyone to go with em so they would have to go alone.

I strongly disagree with your thread title.
 
Well I don't care why is he or she a LAL supporter and why did he/she paid so much for watching the game. It's not about being a true LAL fan, it's about the simple problem that you even are a fan of that team (=douchebag).:chuckles::tomato:
 
Well I don't care why is he or she a LAL supporter and why did he/she paid so much for watching the game. It's not about being a true LAL fan, it's about the simple problem that you even are a fan of that team (=douchebag).:chuckles::tomato:

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Laker fans, leave your opinions at the door please. I mean, some of you know where to draw a line since this isn't their site, but some of you come here thinking it's an even playing field. YOU'RE ON A CAVS FAN SITE! You can add observation and perspective, that's fine, but don't bring your real opinions on this site because your choice to be a Laker fan is enough for us to know we don't give a shit about your opinion.

I was never too keen on any Laker fans being in here, even if they are of the few that are above troll-status, because trolls always come following after.
 
Anyone can give their opinion, you can't stop them. It's up to you to decide if you want to be a douche and disregard/disrespect another person's opinion on any subject just because they are fans of a team you don't like.
 
10) Half the courtside seats are empty in the first and third quarters of every game. Getting the obvious and least offensive complaint out of the way first.


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9) They’re incapable of acknowledging a bad trade when it happens. When Caron Butler was traded for Kwame Brown, the general consensus in Los Angeles at the time was that this was a good thing. No matter how many times you bring up the Caron giveaway to a Laker fan, you always got this reaction: “Caron played the same position as Kobe Bryant anyway, he had to go.” Uh, no. Caron plays small forward and Kobe is a shooting guard. I’m sure Phil Jackson would’ve hated having to coach Kobe, Butler and Lamar Odom at the same time.

8) They act like the entire league is obligated to ensure the Lakers success, and thus every team should be trading their best players to the Lakers for pennies on the dollar. (Hence why Memphis Grizzlies’ “General Manager” Chris Wallace must be a Lakers fan). This came up a lot during the Kevin Garnett discussion last summer when Lakers “fans” everywhere were befuddled as to why Minnesota wouldn’t accept Lamar Odom, Ronny Turiaf and a late first round pick for KG. Lakers “fans” took it as a personal insult that Minnesota wouldn’t bite on that paltry offer for one of the game’s greatest players of all time.

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7) LA radio “personality” Vic “The Brick” Jacobs. If you don’t know who I’m talking about, look him up on Google, because he's a microcosm of
Lakers "fans" everywhere. When the Knicks made the NBA Finals in 1999, Vic “The Brick” Jacobs, the supposed “Lakers Homer” (who, by the way, proclaimed Kobe’s innocence on the rape charge even though he didn’t have any of the facts) referred to the Knicks as “Vic’s Knicks” just because Jacobs was born in Queens. This would be like Sandy Clough – who thankfully isn’t a cartoonish figure like Jacobs – proclaiming last year’s Giants Super Bowl team as “Sandy’s Giants”. Huh? I'm feelin' you, Vic!

6) Seats that should go to real basketball fans are instead occupied by wives, girlfriends and escorts. (Although, in fairness to Lakers “fans”, the plethora of escorts at every game makes any visit to Staples Center quite enjoyable…that is, of course, if you’re into fake breasts). The next time you go to a Lakers game, check out all the (one time) trophy wives of the courtside ticket holders. They literally just sit there in their awful “ladies’ suits” with dreadful Madeline Albright-style pins affixed to the lapel and do nothing while their husbands take in the game. These paid-off housewives are so bejeweled, they probably killed entire tribes of Sierra Leoneans just to get those diamonds to their wrinkled fingers. On a side note, I’m convinced that more Persian guys can credit Lakers games to getting themselves laid than any other event in Los Angeles, over even bottle service at Republic (or whatever this week’s hot Hollywood club hangout that I could never get into is) or renting a Ferrari for a night.

5) They’re the biggest bandwagon fans in the country and only support the Lakers when the team is really, really, really, really good. They’re such bandwagon fans, in fact, that when the Clippers were the better team two seasons ago, everyone in LA was suddenly a Clippers “fan” (just like everyone in LA was suddenly an Angels “fan” in 2002 and suddenly a Rams “fan” in 1999).

4) 85% of them aren’t from Los Angeles and, like newcomers to Scientology, these non-native Lakers “fan” converts are young, impressionable and gullible. Take my friend Jason from Boston, for example. No joke, after moving to LA, Jason (like others of his ilk) began wearing Lakers shorts. That’s right, a guy from Boston wearing Lakers shorts!! And he used the same bull---t line that all Boston natives pull on me when I catch them wearing Lakers gear: “I’m really just a Red Sox fan, anyway.” Yeah, right. Like all you Boston frauds that live in LA weren’t snatching up NBA League Passes this year. (Note: this rant excludes my friend Dan from Boston who also lives in LA and actually had the League Pass when the Celtics won all of 24 games last season).

3) Now that he’s out of town, they pretend like they never liked Shaquille O’Neal in the first place. All Shaq did for the Lakers organization was bring them four NBA Finals appearances and three rings while being incredibly active and charitable within the Los Angeles community and buying Mark Madsen a shiny, new car. Not only can’t you find a Shaq defender anywhere in LA these days, but Lakers “fans” will go out of their way to tell you why they hate Shaq: “he never worked hard,” “he was always fat and out of shape,” “he was a big baby,” “he was a me-first guy,” and the one that gets me the most, “those teams were boring to watch.” Boring to watch? Four finals appearances and three rings were boring to watch?!!

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2) They unmercifully defend Kobe Bryant. Whether he’s throwing his teammates like Shaq or Andrew Bynum under the bus, clobbering white defenders after jump shots, regularly spouting profanity-laced tirades at the referees for all the six year olds within earshot to hear, (allegedly) forcing himself sexually onto a female hotel worker in Colorado and subsequently paying her – and his wife – off, or throwing public hissy fits to get himself traded from the very team he wished for by demanding Shaq’s ouster, Bryant can do no wrong in the eyes of Lakers “fans”. When Kobe got in trouble in Colorado for his – let’s say – “inappropriate actions,” the reaction among Lakers Nation was: “let’s wait for the evidence” or “she was asking for it by going into his room” or “she’s a whore anyway, she slept with like five guys the day before and just wants some attention” and so on. You’d have thought Lakers “fans” everywhere had performed the DNA samples on the girl’s underwear themselves. And yet when any other athlete allegedly does something that runs afoul of the law, like Carmelo Anthony’s suspicion of getting a DUI, he’s most assuredly guilty in the eyes of Lakers “fans” – evident by their oh-so-clever “D-U-I” chant at Staples Center on Sunday.

1) They’re in myopic denial of the favoritism the Lakers receive from the NBA.

Lakers "fans" claim that their team is subject to the same rules and regulations as the other 29 NBA teams, but this simply isn't true. Here are the indisputable examples…

-Since the Lakers can’t be bothered to play on Saturdays, they never have to play a back-to-back at the end of week…typically the most grueling games on the schedule. Moreover, while most teams (especially in the Western Conference) have to go into hostile territory for Saturday games where it’s the only thing in town to do, the Lakers never have to play those games. If you think it doesn’t matter, in 2007-08 road teams were a combined 12-28 on Saturday night games that took place in Portland, Utah, Sacramento, San Antonio, Memphis and Minneapolis.

-Since the Lakers can’t be bothered to play on Saturdays, they never have to play a back-to-back at the end of week…typically the most grueling games on the schedule. Moreover, while most teams (especially in the Western Conference) have to go into hostile territory for Saturday games where it’s the only thing in town to do, the Lakers never have to play those games. If you think it doesn’t matter, in 2007-08 road teams were a combined 12-28 on Saturday night games that took place in Portland, Utah, Sacramento, San Antonio, Memphis and Minneapolis.

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-The Lakers have historically been given favorable treatment from the referees in supremely important games. One of the most famous examples of this was Game Six of the 2002 Western Conference Finals against the Sacramento Kings. With the Lakers down three games to two, the NBA was in danger of the Lakers not making it to the NBA Finals, so the refs ensured that the Lakers shot 34 free throw attempts to the Kings’ 18. While Game Six of 2002 might be more famous, the most egregious example was Game Seven of the 2000 Western Conference Finals against the Portland Trailblazers. Many site the Blazers demise in that game to their 3-of-18 shooting in the fourth quarter (which admittedly, was a huge factor in the loss), and yet everyone fails to recognize that the 21 free throw attempt differential in favor of the Lakers didn’t exactly help Portland’s cause, either.

-Another example of a free ride from the refs came during Game Six of the 1988 NBA Finals against the Detroit Pistons. The Lakers were down three games to two, and down one point with 14 seconds to go. The Lakers fed the ball into Kareem Abdul-Jabbar for a hook shot, and Bill Laimbeer was called for a foul which, upon review in the replay, never happened. Don’t believe me? Watch the video.

-Shockingly, the dean of NBA referees (and USA Basketball wrecker) Stu Jackson admitted that the referees made an incorrect call this season that essentially gave a game to the Lakers when Derek Fisher pulled Monta Ellis down with 3.3 seconds left in the Warriors 123-119 loss to the Lakers in Oakland. Given that the Warriors missed the playoffs by just two games, I’m sure they were thrilled with the NBA’s diligence on this one.

-Lakers were 7th seed playoff team in 06-07, yet in 07-08 season they received the most national televised games

-And of course, earlier this decade NBA Commissioner David Stern, when asked what teams would comprise his ideal NBA Finals, was quoted as saying “the Lakers vs. the Lakers.”


But no, there’s no favoritism towards the Lakers out there.

Beating the Lakers in the playoffs is like beating the Republicans in Presidential Elections that take place in Ohio or Florida. You have to knock them out by an overwhelming majority of points/votes because if it's at all close, the game will be rigged against you.


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Anyone can give their opinion, you can't stop them. It's up to you to decide if you want to be a douche and disregard/disrespect another person's opinion on any subject just because they are fans of a team you don't like.

I wasn't attacking you really, I was targeting trolls. Your presence here probably makes it an easier environment for a troll, but I can accept a poster like you being here. You bring a new perspective to the table. But the fact remains, this is a Cavs site and we only need so much outsider view.

These new Laker trolls come in here and try to make a stand with their opinions instead of sticking to a niche that will work in this eco-system we call RCF. That's where they cross the line you do not, they want to be an opinionated poster like many Cavs fans here instead of a low-key thoughtful poster like yourself.

We don't need to allow any Laker fans to be here, and certainly not if they aren't going to respect the fact that this is REALCAVSFANS.com and not ANYNBAFANSWHOFEELLKETROLLING.com. It's tiresome to see these people pop up to represent their team when a lot of people here despise it. It just doesn't add up.

Again, when a poster comes here and serves a purpose as an outsider, fine. But when they take it a step further and try to debate here that's when it gets messy. We have enough debate to find within our fanhood, and anyone that comes here from another team to fight just seems hostile.

I'm not a douche for disregarding these trolls, I'm just enjoying a site made for people like me.
 
I think the Magic have the worst "trolls" thus far on this site. With Laker fans coming a close second.

I'm VERY sure that if this was a Lakers/Magic/Any other NBA message board, they'd comment on why a Cavs' fan is posting religiously on their forums.
 
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I hate fans like that, and I'm sure everyone here knows that not all Lakers fans are like this
I wasn't attacking you really, I was targeting trolls. Your presence here probably makes it an easier environment for a troll, but I can accept a poster like you being here. You bring a new perspective to the table. But the fact remains, this is a Cavs site and we only need so much outsider view.

These new Laker trolls come in here and try to make a stand with their opinions instead of sticking to a niche that will work in this eco-system we call RCF. That's where they cross the line you do not, they want to be an opinionated poster like many Cavs fans here instead of a low-key thoughtful poster like yourself.

We don't need to allow any Laker fans to be here, and certainly not if they aren't going to respect the fact that this is REALCAVSFANS.com and not ANYNBAFANSWHOFEELLKETROLLING.com. It's tiresome to see these people pop up to represent their team when a lot of people here despise it. It just doesn't add up.

Again, when a poster comes here and serves a purpose as an outsider, fine. But when they take it a step further and try to debate here that's when it gets messy. We have enough debate to find within our fanhood, and anyone that comes here from another team to fight just seems hostile.

I'm not a douche for disregarding these trolls, I'm just enjoying a site made for people like me.

I know what you mean about trolls, fuck a troll. You just stated "Lakers fans" though and just not caring about opinions of "Lakers fans" so I had to respond. Glad you made yourself clear, thank you sir.
 
I think the Magic have the worst "trolls" thus far on this site. With Laker fans coming a close second.

I'm VERY sure that if this was a Lakers/Magic/Any other NBA message board, they'd comment on why a Cavs' fan is posting religiously on their forums.

Obviously, and most people would be dicks to the random Cavs fan too. But some people aren't like that and that's why I don't hate on random fans of other teams.

How many Lakers/Magic fans post religiously on this forum? Serious question
 
I hate fans like that, and I'm sure everyone here knows that not all Lakers fans are like this


I know what you mean about trolls, fuck a troll. You just stated "Lakers fans" though and just not caring about opinions of "Lakers fans" so I had to respond. Glad you made yourself clear, thank you sir.

Glad we're on the same page. Can't be easy for you to get along here while people are constantly trying to jump in and promote the stereotypes of your fan-base.
 

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