Wing Archetype

[DJTJ]

My family and I were having a heated draft debate last night (manly about who to take), and a quality question came about. You're drafting a wing, and you can pick three things your player can do at a high level (top 20 at his position or so). What would those three things be?


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[Jon]

Care to list the options you'd broken things down to? Otherwise, I'm going with:

1) High level of ability on offense
2) High level of ability on defense
3) High level of loyalty to his fan base

 

[The Oi]

Tangibles:

(1) High quality finishing ability
(2) High quality mid-range game
(3) High quality handles

Intangibles:

(1) Leadership abilities
(2) Killer instinct
(3) Loyalty...Jon makes a good point. We're all painfully aware of how important this is in Cleveland :chuckles:

 

[DJTJ]

Care to list the options you'd broken things down to? Otherwise, I'm going with:

1) High level of ability on offense
2) High level of ability on defense
3) High level of loyalty to his fan base

I went with:

1. On Ball Defense
2. Mid-Range Game
3. Ability to get to the foul line.

 

[mcfly]

1. mid-range shooting
2. man defense
3. ability to draw fouls at a good rate

 

[foucault87]

1. One-on-One Defense: This is huge considering how many of the league's best players play the 2/3 (Durant, Kobe, Melo, ******, Wade, etc). It is more than just on the ball defense because a lot of these guys are great at playing off the ball. Defending that is also really important.

2. Ability to drive/score inside (including getting to the line): This is always important. Getting other teams in foul trouble helps and when you've got a guy that can get into the paint on his own, that's just fantastic. If he can read defenses and pass out, that is even better.

3. Leadership: The Cavs need it now. And a star player should be your leader. If he can play the game and lead, then you've got the most important intangible, and something that may matter more than the above two.

 

[InBoobieWeTrust]

1.) Score the basketball. Do it efficiently, off the dribble, from beyond the arc, off of screens, in isolation, putbacks, post-ups. All of it works, I just need the ball to go in the basket consistently. I don't care what your style is. Just be consistent.

2. )Championship Ego. I need my star to have the ego necessary to be the guy who wants the last shot. If you don't want the last shot, you're not going to make it. Having this will lead to a willingness to defend as well,. Don't confuse a championship ego with what LeBron James has, which is a self-centered, narcissistic, image ego. Michael Jordan, Larry Bird, Kobe Bryant...these guys have championship egos.

3.)Work Ethic. If we lose a game we shouldn't have lost, get on the opposing teams court after the game and shoot for an hour. During the summer, take care of your body. Nights before PLAYOFF GAMES.....don't go to the club. Losing a step? Fix your jumpshot. Can't jump as high? Bulk up and get on the block. You have a problem with your teammates? Score 60 on them in practice. Dominate them until it gets to the point where your coaches have to end practice before things get out of hand.

 

[Adam]

I would go with:

clutch shooting; can they hit the shot when it matters

individual defense: going against alot of premier scorers you need to be able to contain them

passing: a great wing player is going to be doubled often, being a great passer punishes teams for doing this

 

[The Voice]

How the hell do you measure loyalty?

 

[Jon]

How the hell do you measure loyalty?

The usual way, by actions and words.

 

[RaptorFan]

1) Work ethic
2) more work ethic
3) hates losing

 

[Cavs_Dynasty]

1) Driving/Handles
2) Defense
3) Work Ethic

I'd like to see those three things in my star wing. Being able to penetrate a top tier NBA defense should be a must, if the player can't do that they would have to be able to score in a variety of ways for me to draft them.

 

[DougHeil]

The usual way, by actions and words.

How do you that with a college player? What does his actions OR words have to do with how loyal he mght be to the team who drafts him? For this reason, no way do I put something like that in my 3 requirements.

1. Work ethic. - the biggest one.
2. Potential. - what's the worse case scenario and the best case.
3. Basketball Skills - all around skills; shooting, dribbling, one on one defense, BBall IQ, passing, leadership.

 

[The Voice]

The usual way, by actions and words.

So we're supposed to know if a kid coming out of college is loyal?

Look at LeBron coming out of high school. Could you really tell if he was going to be loyal or not.

 

[Jon]

So we're supposed to know if a kid coming out of college is loyal?

Only if they show it by words/actions ...

Look at LeBron coming out of high school. Could you really tell if he was going to be loyal or not.

Yes. It was obvious to me from the moment he was informed that Cleveland had won the draft lottery and seemed upset that the Knicks or someone else didn't. It was obvious when he started opening his mouth and rather than looking to elevate Cleveland AND Akron as one community (North East Ohio), always made a point to divide the two.