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The Oi said:
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Bro this is not news. Of course the Cavs are trying to trade up down and sideways. They always are. It’s expensive as hell to trade up in the lottery. And we can’t trade a pick again until 2024. Hard to do. And dumb to do.

Now, 14 + 39 + Okoro for 9 could make sense.
 
Mr. Orange said:
Bro this is not news. Of course the Cavs are trying to trade up down and sideways. They always are. It’s expensive as hell to trade up in the lottery. And we can’t trade a pick again until 2024. Hard to do. And dumb to do.

Now, 14 + 39 + Okoro for 9 could make sense.
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14 + 58 + Cedi for 9 is more like it lol
 
Ohioplayer00 said:
Windhorst just reported on ESPNRADIO that the Cavs are trying to move up into the top ten.
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I posted this in s34 this afternoon with the intention of adding to a discussion about trading pick 14 for a more established player. However, it now feels a bit relevant to potentially trying to trade up from 14.



I went back through the 2011 - 2020 drafts and looked at all of the guys drafted +2 and -2 from the 14th pick (12-16).

I filtered each player into one of 5 categories:
All-Star
Starter
Rotation (6th, 7th, 8th men)
Blowout/G-League
Out of League

While you could argue a couple of the guys up or down a tier, I tried my best to be accurate and sided more in favor of moving up a tier when in question. The sort also doesn't take into account draft to draft talent level OR individual team's drafting skill, but that level of research is far above my paygrade.

Below are the results:

All-StarStarterRotation (6th, 7th, 8th men)Blowout/G-LeagueOut of League
12th03430
13th30412
14th12322
15th21241
16th12115
Percentage14%16%28%22%20%


Some takeaways:

  • If I'm being completely honest, having a 58% chance of being rotation level or higher was a bit better than I expected. It's still closer to a coin flip than we'd like, but at least the odds are on the Cavs side.
  • The most realistic outcome of drafting at 14 is getting a bench guy. Still, these players have plenty of value and are vital for team building.
  • Past that, it's all about what type of opportunity you have in the trade market, trusting in your scouting department, and your risk tolerance.
  • Some people would see that 14% at an all-star as a worthwhile risk. Others see the 42% chance that the player is worthless as your clue to cash in on a more proven commodity if such a player is available.
  • I'm not sure if this provides much clarity at all, but I had a bit of extra time on this post lottery Wednesday, and hope you enjoy.

Now, where it would get interesting in relation to trading up, I don’t have the time to look into the outcome if I were to do the same exercise for, say the 6th-10th picks, but my gut would say that the chances of a player being rotation level or higher would increase significantly. Likewise, obviously the chances of that player being a starter or an allstar would also significantly increase.

If there is really a team interested in our loose change and/or works in progress, more power to them.
 
B Mac said:
I posted this in s34 this afternoon with the intention of adding to a discussion about trading pick 14 for a more established player. However, it now feels a bit relevant to potentially trying to trade up from 14.



I went back through the 2011 - 2020 drafts and looked at all of the guys drafted +2 and -2 from the 14th pick (12-16).

I filtered each player into one of 5 categories:
All-Star
Starter
Rotation (6th, 7th, 8th men)
Blowout/G-League
Out of League

While you could argue a couple of the guys up or down a tier, I tried my best to be accurate and sided more in favor of moving up a tier when in question. The sort also doesn't take into account draft to draft talent level OR individual team's drafting skill, but that level of research is far above my paygrade.

Below are the results:

All-StarStarterRotation (6th, 7th, 8th men)Blowout/G-LeagueOut of League
12th03430
13th30412
14th12322
15th21241
16th12115
Percentage14%16%28%22%20%


Some takeaways:

  • If I'm being completely honest, having a 58% chance of being rotation level or higher was a bit better than I expected. It's still closer to a coin flip than we'd like, but at least the odds are on the Cavs side.
  • The most realistic outcome of drafting at 14 is getting a bench guy. Still, these players have plenty of value and are vital for team building.
  • Past that, it's all about what type of opportunity you have in the trade market, trusting in your scouting department, and your risk tolerance.
  • Some people would see that 14% at an all-star as a worthwhile risk. Others see the 42% chance that the player is worthless as your clue to cash in on a more proven commodity if such a player is available.
  • I'm not sure if this provides much clarity at all, but I had a bit of extra time on this post lottery Wednesday, and hope you enjoy.

Now, where it would get interesting in relation to trading up, I don’t have the time to look into the outcome if I were to do the same exercise for, say the 6th-10th picks, but my gut would say that the chances of a player being rotation level or higher would increase significantly. Likewise, obviously the chances of that player being a starter or an allstar would also significantly increase.

If there is really a team interested in our loose change and/or works in progress, more power to them.
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Really good analysis here. I would guess that the 5-10 range has more busts than 12-16. 5-10 feels like the range where people index exclusively on high upside. 12-16 is a range where you sometimes draft upside (Poku etc) but more often than not you get a solid role player or better because teams are more willing to take older guys who can just play
 
Rich said:
Looking at potential deals with the Knicks to move up to 11. They make some sense.

New Orleans to a lesser extent.
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If true (moving up) I hope it isn’t to assure themselves of getting TY TY Washington. Fedor seems to think this is the guy they want
 
Peacedog said:
They're not trading Okoro to move up 4-5 spots. Jeesh.
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Dallas traded a first to move up 2 spots three years ago. So either get ready to part with the 2024 first, or another young asset. Maybe Portland would like 14, 39 and Levert.
 

Kentucky's TyTy Washington official measurements from the NBA Combine: 6'3.75 in shoes, 6'8 wingspan, 8'3.5 standing reach, 196.4 lbs with 12% body fat

12% body fat is the high end of ideal for an athlete. Ideal is between 6-13%. Hopefully Washington gets into a better conditioning and nuitrition plan and cuts that fat in half or he will be to slow to defend other guards.
 
LSU’s Tari Eason and Baylor’s Jeremy Sochan may not be ideal stylistic fits because of a defense-first package, but sources say the Cavs like both prospects and a pure talent grab would be awfully tempting. At least one member of the organization currently likes Eason most of the realistic options at No. 14.
 
I’d love to try and dip into the overseas bucket again. Gotta be another Luca in there somewhere
 
Mcreek said:
LSU’s Tari Eason and Baylor’s Jeremy Sochan may not be ideal stylistic fits because of a defense-first package, but sources say the Cavs like both prospects and a pure talent grab would be awfully tempting. At least one member of the organization currently likes Eason most of the realistic options at No. 14.
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I know @RchfldCavRaised talked about the need for a Robert Covington type player for the roster all season on Rubber Rim Job. They badly need defensive flexibility at small forward - someone with plus size who can handle perimeter players. I'd be thrilled with either Sochan or Eason.
 
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