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Nice speak, nothing wrong with it. Jordan being Jordan, the greatest ever, most competitive guy out there and this speach really does justice to him.
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He's right. Jordan gets away with a lot of bullshit now and got away with a lot of bullshit when he was playing. He may be "the greatest ever", but I hate the double standard that he has to players today. What other player can talk shit about white players this day in age and get away with it?!!
This takes away from what he did on the court, obviously. It's just obnoxious to see his image portrayed as a fun loving guy :chuckles:
This takes away from what he did on the court, obviously. It's just obnoxious to see his image portrayed as a fun loving guy :chuckles:
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I don't know what you guys are all moaning about, this was a fun speech and straight from the heart. What did you guys want, a poster inspirational piece, completely impersonal yet peppered with 2-3 well timed tear-wrenching moments?
Jordan bantered with his competitors (knowing and unknowing) all the way through, because this is him, because his competitors accompanied him and defined him - and because he still wants to play and not stop. Like when we were kids and the sun went down and we had to go home and stop in mid-game. We'd still keep going with jokes, and barbs, and who had the best of who, all the way back to the neighborhood, and it wasn't mean spirited. It's just that we had a lot of fun and we didn't want yet to call it a night and go home.
Jordan bantered with his competitors (knowing and unknowing) all the way through, because this is him, because his competitors accompanied him and defined him - and because he still wants to play and not stop. Like when we were kids and the sun went down and we had to go home and stop in mid-game. We'd still keep going with jokes, and barbs, and who had the best of who, all the way back to the neighborhood, and it wasn't mean spirited. It's just that we had a lot of fun and we didn't want yet to call it a night and go home.
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He cheated every game? Please explain that one. Then show me any superstar that doesn't get calls. I'm a huge Larry Bird honk but I know he got calls that othe rplayers didn't. To think otherwise is naive.
Nike helped make him global. The kid got a ton of run based on his collegiate accomplishments and what he was doing his rookie year on the court, not only because Nike was marketing him. The Nike campaign helped push him over the top.
Rule changes or not, Jordan is EASILY Top 3. To be the best ever you have to be able to play in any era and dominate. Jordan consistently worked on different aspects of his game to make himself an all around great player. His game would easily fit into any era of b-ball.
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Every guy in the HOF has to be highly competitive or they'd never have made it. Yet, they almost uniformly handle their HOF speeches with class and grace. I've never heard anyone, in any sport, use it as an opportunity to score points off other people.
He may be the greatest basketball player of all time, but in terms of what it says about him as a person, it ain't much.
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Byron Russell called out Mike today. Wants it to be televised. I don't see how Mike would turn this down. He still playing and still sounds like he's got something to prove. Beating Russell 11 zip wouldn't do any harm to his rep.
I liked the speech. Jordan was just being funny in his way and pounding his point that success isn't about being nice and accepting what's thrown your way ... but fighting hard, working hard, (pushing off hard), and finding motivation in anything you can to help you overcome.
He saluted the obstacles in his life because he really feels it was the challenges he faced (and conquered) that made him the player he was.
If he was more gracious and humble, he wouldn't be who he is.
One of my thoughts, was that I hoped LeBron became that comfortable speaking in public by the time he's standing up on that podium.
Some folks might even consider what Jordan had to say and forgive LeBron for not shaking the hands of the Magic players who did far more then just defeat his team in a game. LeBron as a student of Jordan's game completely understands how Jordan worked and improved on his game every year, but he's still coming up to speed on how Jordan turned pain in to gain; how even the slightest or most ridiculous challenge became something he felt he had to overcome.
That speech was a glimpse in to the drive, demands, and cost required to become the very best. I was never an MJ fan, but kudos to him for sharing that part of himself and thank goodness he wasn't boring.
He saluted the obstacles in his life because he really feels it was the challenges he faced (and conquered) that made him the player he was.
If he was more gracious and humble, he wouldn't be who he is.
One of my thoughts, was that I hoped LeBron became that comfortable speaking in public by the time he's standing up on that podium.
Some folks might even consider what Jordan had to say and forgive LeBron for not shaking the hands of the Magic players who did far more then just defeat his team in a game. LeBron as a student of Jordan's game completely understands how Jordan worked and improved on his game every year, but he's still coming up to speed on how Jordan turned pain in to gain; how even the slightest or most ridiculous challenge became something he felt he had to overcome.
That speech was a glimpse in to the drive, demands, and cost required to become the very best. I was never an MJ fan, but kudos to him for sharing that part of himself and thank goodness he wasn't boring.
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They attached Adrian's story to the main page in Yahoo. This may be about to get WAY more attention.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-jordanhall091209&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-jordanhall091209&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
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ESPN had a funny example of Mike's as$hole-ness:
"In the pre-Olympic scrimmage, the game was more intense than actual Olympic play. Michael's team vs. Magic's team. Mike's team was up 6 with 10 seconds remaining and assistant coach Mike Krzyzewski re-assures the players: 'Plenty of time left." Mike, in the middle of shooting free throws, slams the ball down on the floor and yells back at coach K: 'F*ck that, man! Ain't no time left, it's over!"
Classic Money:chuckles:
"In the pre-Olympic scrimmage, the game was more intense than actual Olympic play. Michael's team vs. Magic's team. Mike's team was up 6 with 10 seconds remaining and assistant coach Mike Krzyzewski re-assures the players: 'Plenty of time left." Mike, in the middle of shooting free throws, slams the ball down on the floor and yells back at coach K: 'F*ck that, man! Ain't no time left, it's over!"
Classic Money:chuckles:
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i just cant believe he bitched about paying for tickets for his family. seriously mike, you are better than that.
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I don't know about all of you guys, but I never really felt the sense of him being serious when he made those type of jokes. As you hear the people laughing whenever he make a joke as listed above in the quote, he also cracked a smile..
I found nothing wrong with any of the videos I watched above.. Well, besides the first one when they showed The Shot.
I can't believe you thought he was bitching, albeit anyone Mike wanted to invite should have gotten in free up to about 78,000 tickets, IMO.
After what he's done for the NBA, he can't be repaid enough.
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Well I read the Adrian article and some of your comments and thought the Jordan speech perhaps crossed the line, but I went and saw the full speech on Youtube and well, I thought it was just a good speech. It was spoken from the heart.
Mike's just wired differently from everyone else and I guarantee that he wouldn't have had the success he had if he was any different. The little stuff, stories, Bryan Russel, coaches whatever, that's what he remembers most vividly - that's his edge, man. All those challenges (even said jokingly or real or imagined), that was his motivation, jeez that's just what makes him tick.
Honestly, I thought it was a damn good speech. He basically covered what fueled him throughout his entire life and basketball career. He's cocky as hell, but that's his edge, part of his swagger, man.
And the talk about Nike - Michael made Nike. Nike was absolutely nothing when they signed him when he was a rookie. I remember reading up on the marketing story of Nike - no one wore Nikes until they took a risk and signed him to the biggest sneaker deal in basketball when he was a rookie.
Mike's just wired differently from everyone else and I guarantee that he wouldn't have had the success he had if he was any different. The little stuff, stories, Bryan Russel, coaches whatever, that's what he remembers most vividly - that's his edge, man. All those challenges (even said jokingly or real or imagined), that was his motivation, jeez that's just what makes him tick.
Honestly, I thought it was a damn good speech. He basically covered what fueled him throughout his entire life and basketball career. He's cocky as hell, but that's his edge, part of his swagger, man.
And the talk about Nike - Michael made Nike. Nike was absolutely nothing when they signed him when he was a rookie. I remember reading up on the marketing story of Nike - no one wore Nikes until they took a risk and signed him to the biggest sneaker deal in basketball when he was a rookie.