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Which direction would you go as a GM

  • Trade for a Marte type

    Votes: 1 10.0%
  • Trade for a Marquez type

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Trade for a Marte/Marquez and a rental of the other

    Votes: 1 10.0%
  • Trade for Veteran SP rental/stop gap only

    Votes: 1 10.0%
  • Trade for veteran bat rental/stop gap only

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Trade for both a SP and bat rental/stop gap

    Votes: 2 20.0%
  • Trade Hernandez/Rosario and let the young guys play

    Votes: 2 20.0%
  • Leave team as is

    Votes: 3 30.0%

  • Total voters
    10

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Okay so let's just play a fun game of be the GM of the Indians, what move would you make and support why you would over the rest of the season into the 22 off-season!

Marte type means all-star/proven MLB bat with years of control, Marquez type means all-star/proven MLB SP with years of control
 
Since I started this thread, I will start...

I personally would go get myself Marte from the Diamondbacks... I feel like he would be the future along with JRam at 2-3 in the lineup...

Next I would try and acquire a veteran SP, Gray isn't my first choice, but someone like him makes sense on paper...

Now I know I would lose prospects, but I feel like with the minors we have as long as I don't have to get rid my untouchable list, I think everything willl be fine!

Now onto the off season... Extending JRam, Bieber and Civale would be my priority... Eddie will walk and I will trade Hernandez after taking his option season. I will extend Perez, but get him a two year/10ish replacing his one year deal... Hedges will be kept as well..

Now I won't have much money to spend in free agency... so I will have to rely upon who I have in house and veteran minor league deals...Certain guys like Bauers personally would be gone and I would add my best prospects I could lose in the Rule 5. I haven't decided that just yet since I need to see how 21 minor league season plays out for the young players ..
 
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OK, I'll play. The first thing I would do is determine which prospects I'm willing to let go of, or which prospects I'm not willing to let go of because that would be a much shorter list.

Next I would try to determine what the budget looks like going forward and if desired trade targets fit in with that budget.

Next I would weigh the offers for JRam. Are any of them so ridiculously good that you have to consider it, or are we better off keeping and possibly extending him?

I'm not a big fan of long term FA acquisitions. They are usually very expensive and lose their value quickly. Although I do like deals like Eddie and Cesar's.

When the offseason gets here hopefully Plesac has pitched well because he would be going the way of Clevinger if it were me.
 
Cesar and Eddie are underperforming and too expensive so they're gone. Hope Cesar has a better second half and trade him for a prospect.

Either Owen Miller or Tyler Freeman takes over at 2nd base - the loser is the UIF. Andres Gimenez is at short, assuming he gets his hitting mechanics fixed. Naylor at first.

I'm fine with Berto and Hedges at catcher.

I'd have Amed, Harold Ramirez, and Nolan Jones in the OF unless Zimmer can win a starting job. Luplow would platoon with Jones, who can't hit lefties. We'd have to extend Harold.

The starters are Bieber, Plesac, Civale and then a four-way battle for the last two spots between Quantrill, McKenzie, Hentges, and Mejia. If Logan Allen can get his elbow fixed he may be a factor.

The bullpen is just fine. I'd give Shaw another year.

I'm not sure we need to make any trades or free agent signings. The guys who needed to be traded have already been traded.

If we make a move it would be for an outfielder in case Jones isn't ready, and that's a real possibility. He has one hit in his last 17 at-bats. He's hitting .174 on the season with 1 home run in 86 at-bats. And Columbus is supposed to be a hitter's park if I'm not mistaken. I'm wondering if Jones is going to be the guy we've been waiting for.
 
To play this, we each have to make some assumptions. Mine are that there are $3-4 mil to play with this year, if the team stays in contention...that the payroll will increase about $10 mil next season.

If the team remains in legitimate contention for the division, I would try to make a prospects for Haniger trade. Hanigers salary next season replaces Hernandez' or partially replaces Eddie's...and Haniger becomes the RF.

I'd be willing to trade any position prospects, outside of Freeman and Naylor, with a focus on moving Jones and Valera. I also wouldn't shy away from trading a lower level pitching prospect.

I'd promote Freeman to AAA by the break, and quit moving him around. Stick him on second, and groom him for next year in Cleveland. What I do with Hernandez depends upon how Freeman looks in the second half.

Multiple MIF prospects would get extended looks in the OF.

Naylor would be my 1B. Amed my CF. Giminez my SS. This would be done by July.

I'd try to extend Bieber, Franmil, and Civale, and resign Shaw. I'd keep both Berto and Hedges.

Sometime before the Rule Five, I'd explore a major prospects for legit MLB bat with multiple years of control. That players arby cost would replace most of the rest of what we are paying Eddie and Hernandez.

I would cull a bunch of the dead weight here and in Columbus, knowing full well that one of them will some day become an at least semi productive MLB player.

All of that should be able to be done within a $60 mil budget.

I'm not as concerned about the rotation as many are here. IMO the injuries are more of the problem than anything else, and only one injury (Allen's elbow) is an arm problem. The talent is there, the experience will come. I'm also not moving any of them to the pen. Too much upside to move them to a pen which is already loaded, and should be for several years.

Basically, I'd play for contention this year as long as there is a legitimate shot, while setting up for next year.
 
Trade Cesar and Eddie for anything we can get. Let the kids play. What do you really think we are playing for if we go out and add at the deadline? We don't even have the hope of our elite rotation dominating in the postseason the way we did 2 years ago when on the old board I said to just let it ride with the youngsters. We have 2 starters.

Trade the 2 I just mentioned. Bring back Gimenez. Bring up Arias. 1B: Bradley/Miller, 2B: Arias, SS: Gimenez, 3B: JOSE. Let Miller get ABs around the diamond too and Arias spot starts at SS. Amed/Naylor plus Zimmer/Harold should be your OF. Give a month at least to Hentges, Quantrill, Mejia in the rotation. Whoever falters, replace with TMac and then Plesac. Berto/Hedges as your catchers. LET'S GO.
 
Too many variables to make these choices on Jun 10th. Check back in mid-July when more informed decisions can be made.

I enjoy pretending to be a GM of a sports team so I am always up for something like this! Console/PC games are mostly too easy for me since it's rare I ever have a losing season even on the hardest mode...Real life though you cannot see the potential and other factors you can see in the games, so that's something that makes life too easy for me that way...

Indians as an organization, I feel like are always looking ahead and have some type of plan constantly in place, so it's never too early to have plans set out...
 
Indians as an organization, I feel like are always looking ahead and have some type of plan constantly in place, so it's never too early to have plans set out...
There's just too many players who are big question marks, like Nolan Jones, Arias, our rule 5 guys, and our assortment of AAA/AAAA/"5th starter" crew. Other than a general "assess the talent" come end of season and spring training it's hard to say what to do. Having too clear of a vision could interfere in reacting to new data. I would take calls on rebalancing the organization (for instance trading away middle infielders for positions we are less confident in).

Starting pitching depth needs to be addressed.
 
There's just too many players who are big question marks, like Nolan Jones, Arias, our rule 5 guys, and our assortment of AAA/AAAA/"5th starter" crew. Other than a general "assess the talent" come end of season and spring training it's hard to say what to do. Having too clear of a vision could interfere in reacting to new data. I would take calls on rebalancing the organization (for instance trading away middle infielders for positions we are less confident in).

Starting pitching depth needs to be addressed.

The rotation in LC is pretty stacked and a few guys in Lynchburg are pretty darn good looking prospects, but they are likely 2-3 years away. But I imagine we will see one or 2 from LC (Allen and Hickman for example) to get a promotion to Akron at some point this season. Certainly can't count on them for 2022, but 1 or 2 may show at some point.

We really need a legit corner bat (preferably a 3rd baseman) though that is at high A or ideally AA/AAA material.
 
I'd let this month play out. Spend the rest of the year figuring out if Bobby Bradley has a future here.

If we tank or barely hold our heads above water in the next 30, trade Caesar and Eddie and Luplow. Put Miller at 2nd, Daniel Johnson in the OF. Play Zimmer enough to figure out what to do with him.

As others have said, we are running up on a Rule 5 crunch this fall, we've got to see who is worth protecting and who we need to package for a hitter/SP. We can't seem to develop hitters any more so trading for Marte probably makes sense. I suspect Mejia or Mackenzie is a regular in our rotation given time, so unless we trade Plesac, we don't really need to trade for a SP.
 
The rotation in LC is pretty stacked and a few guys in Lynchburg are pretty darn good looking prospects, but they are likely 2-3 years away. But I imagine we will see one or 2 from LC (Allen and Hickman for example) to get a promotion to Akron at some point this season. Certainly can't count on them for 2022, but 1 or 2 may show at some point.

We really need a legit corner bat (preferably a 3rd baseman) though that is at high A or ideally AA/AAA material.
I've been seeing that but this is where I wouldn't mind getting a veteran stopgap solution preferably someone who would work with the younger pitchers well.

Texas signed Kyle Gibson 3yrs, $28M. KC signed Mike Minor 2 yrs, $18M. This is the kind of pitcher I'd target. They certainly don't have electric stuff but they at least generally are reliable to keep the team in the ball game and eat up innings even if there's a little injury risk. And over the course of the season, plugging our gap with someone like this would net us probably more than just a few wins.
 
I've been seeing that but this is where I wouldn't mind getting a veteran stopgap solution preferably someone who would work with the younger pitchers well.

Texas signed Kyle Gibson 3yrs, $28M. KC signed Mike Minor 2 yrs, $18M. This is the kind of pitcher I'd target. They certainly don't have electric stuff but they at least generally are reliable to keep the team in the ball game and eat up innings even if there's a little injury risk. And over the course of the season, plugging our gap with someone like this would net us probably more than just a few wins.

I feel like we should get a stopgap... But it also needs to be a good leader/mentor for the youngsters as well... A Josh Tomlin type of personality in a sense...
 

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