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2017 College Football Season/Playoff Thread

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RG said:
I agree with the logic, I just don't see the committee doing it.

Hopefully we get more upsets rivalry weekend.
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But they did it last year, and with OSU too...why wouldn't they do it again? OSUs full body of work got them in over a team that won OSUs conference and beat them. Overlooking a loss to Iowa seems like childs play after that happened.

Hope is the committee compares stuff like normal people do. Pros vs Cons list, where the pros are wins, and the cons are losses. Cause that's the way I am looking at this, which is why I'm pretty confident in OSU pretty much controlling their own destiny.

Hate to keep this going since we're kind of dancing in circles here, but here is my thought process when looking at this, just so I can show you why I'm arguing this too much.

11-2 Big Ten Champ OSU

Pros: Wisconsin, Penn State, Michigan State
Cons: Oklahoma, Iowa

10-1 Miami

Pros: Notre Dame, Virginia Tech
Cons: Clemson

Right off the bat, the losses to Oklahoma and Clemson are a wash with each other, and the wins over Wisconsin (or PSU, who ever is ranked higher at the final ranking) and Notre Dame are a wash as well.

That leaves:

OSU Pros: Penn State, Michigan State
OSU Cons: Iowa

Miami Pros: Virginia Tech
Miami Cons: None

In this case, I think the 2 superior pros of the wins vs PSU and MSU wash the VT win and Iowa loss, looking at the full body of work.

So the resumes themselves come to a wash, IMO. But then how do you not go with the conference champ if the resumes wash?

And I am being kind of nice here, because whether you laugh at the Army game or not, there is a real possibility they are a 10 win team this year, and they are earning AP votes right now.
 
BimboColesHair said:
But they did it last year, and with OSU too...why wouldn't they do it again? OSUs full body of work got them in over a team that won OSUs conference and beat them. Overlooking a loss to Iowa seems like childs play after that happened.
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As you said earlier, this is a completely different situation. Just because they took 1 loss OSU over 2 loss PSU last year doesn't mean they'd take 2 loss OSU over 1 loss Miami this year. Miami didn't lose to Michigan by 30 and lose to a bad Pitt team while OSU was whooping Oklahoma's ass. Miami also didn't lose to Ohio State.

I know the committee looks at everything. They also value certain things differently, and sometimes unpredictably.

BimboColesHair said:
So the resumes themselves come to a wash, IMO. But then how do you not go with the conference champ if the resumes wash?
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Because winning and losing games matters. While Ohio State was getting fucked by Iowa, Miami kept going about their business, handling their schedule like they should.

You're saying the overall resumes are equal, but putting Ohio State in because they have a conference champion badge while Miami's only loss came in their conference championship against the #2 team is not something I see happening. You aren't going to change my mind on this. If the resume's are equal, the team with the better record, coming off their only loss against the #2 team, goes.

Also, according to Sagarin, Ohio State's overall SOS is 26th. Miami's is 32nd. Barely a difference, and Miami has one less loss.

Anyway, if this plays out, we will truly find out what is more important: Overall record or a conference championship.
 
RG said:
As you said earlier, this is a completely different situation. Just because they took 1 loss OSU over 2 loss PSU last year doesn't mean they'd take 2 loss OSU over 1 loss Miami this year. Miami didn't lose to Michigan by 30 and lose to a bad Pitt team while OSU was whooping Oklahoma's ass. Miami also didn't lose to Ohio State.

I know the committee looks at everything. They also value certain things differently, and sometimes unpredictably.


Because winning and losing games matters. While Ohio State was getting fucked by Iowa, Miami kept going about their business, handling their schedule like they should.

You're saying the overall resumes are equal, but putting Ohio State in because they have a conference champion badge while Miami's only loss came in their conference championship against the #2 team is not something I see happening. You aren't going to change my mind on this. If the resume's are equal, the team with the better record, coming off their only loss against the #2 team, goes.

Also, according to Sagarin, Ohio State's overall SOS is 26th. Miami's is 32nd. Barely a difference, and Miami has one less loss.

Anyway, if this plays out, we will truly find out what is more important: Overall record or a conference championship.
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I said different situation with regards to teams resumes from a year to year basis. Record and status is still the same (1 loss non-champion, 2 loss champ), but the resumes are completely different.

Not that I think the committees thought process should change. They've made it clear every year that the body of work is what is most important. Why stop that now?

And I hope we get to see this situation play out and get some closure...or Miami beats Clemson and takes care of the decision for us :chuckle:

Either way, OSU is most certainly alive for a playoff spot, and that makes the next few weeks exciting.
 
They're alive, but on life support. Need some help. Personally? Not worried about it at all. Hoping we can win the B1G. Anything else is gravy.
 
Miami making playoff is such a suck on attendance at games it's a MASSIVE issue....

If we are close to Miami I'd bet my life we are in. Follow the $$$$
 
The most important factor is having WISC beating Michigan/Minnesota.

We need to be secret Wisky fans the next 2 weeks, as well.
 
Rooting interests this week:

There is only one matchup of ranked teams this week Michigan @ Wisconsin. It is definitely in OSU's best interest for Wisconsin to win, although I don't think it is that bad is Wisconsin loses. A win over an 11-2 Wisconsin team at a neutral site would still stack up well against most teams best win, and then Michigan would probably stay top 20 after we beat them. 4 top 20 wins is a nice resume.

Every other ranked B1G team we want to win (PSU and MSU) and then we'd root for as many other ranked teams to lose. Possible upsets include Miami/Virginia, ND/Navy, OkieSt/KSU, TCU/TTech, Stanford/Cal, USC/UCLA, and Washington/Utah
 
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col63onel said:
Rooting interests this week:

There is only one matchup of ranked teams this week Michigan @ Wisconsin. It is definitely in OSU's best interest for Wisconsin to win, although I don't think it is that bad is Wisconsin loses. A win over an 11-2 Wisconsin team at a neutral site would still stack up well against most teams best win, and then Michigan would probably stay top 20 after we beat them. 4 top 20 wins is a nice resume.

Every other ranked B1G team we want to win (PSU and MSU) and then we'd root for as many other ranked teams to lose. Possible upsets include Miami/Virginia, ND/Navy, OkieSt/KSU, TCU/TTech, Stanford/Cal, USC/UCLA, and Washington/Utah
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These are all 2 TD+ spreads:

Miami/Virginia: UVA +19
ND/Navy: Navy +18
OkieSt/KSU: KSU +19.5
TCU/TTech: no spread listed yet)
Stanford/Cal: Cal +15.5
USC/UCLA: UCLA +16
Washington/Utah: +17.5
 
natedagg said:
These are all 2 TD+ spreads:

Miami/Virginia: UVA +19
ND/Navy: Navy +18
OkieSt/KSU: KSU +19.5
TCU/TTech: no spread listed yet)
Stanford/Cal: Cal +15.5
USC/UCLA: UCLA +16
Washington/Utah: +17.5
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Yeah, when you have a bunched of ranked vs unranked, any upsets would be pretty monumental. But all of the opponents in those games are at least bowl teams. There are 3 top vs FCS school games, plus Oklahoma vs Kansas.
 
bob2the2nd said:
Would miami losing be good or bad for osu?
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If you think there is any chance a 1 loss non-conference champ would get in over a 2 loss Big 10 champ OSU, it's very good.

If it happens, OSU pretty much controls their own destiny once again, save for 1 situation IMO.
 
Miami's defense getting dicked by some UVA QB
 
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