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2018 NBA Draft - June 21

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Not sure if that's a prequisite for playing in the NBA anymore.

I mean, definitely he could and will bulk up once he's had a full year at MSU and then is eating and training like a pro, but what NBA centers are really banging in the paint like they did 10-20 years ago?

I get what you're saying though, he'll likely always be a hybrid PF/C not a true C

Yea for sure. Right now I think he can give you a solid portion of his minutes there no problem. Just think that at 245 lbs right now that there are plenty of bigs that will give him some trouble.

Haven't had a chance to see how much lower body strength he has or how well he can hold his positioning on both ends really yet, but would imagine there's room for improvement right now. He's further along defensively overall though than some of the other prospects that's for sure.
 
Bridges hasn't been bad but he seems to have a tendency to float around aimlessly on the perimeter a little bit.
 
Yeah. It'll be a cold day in hell before Duval drops to the 20's. Kid will be a top 10 pick and maybe the 2nd "PG" after Doncic.

Total stud. If he ever gets a consistent jumper it's over. Perennial-all star. He's that good.
 
Yeah. It'll be a cold day in hell before Duval drops to the 20's. Kid will be a top 10 pick and maybe the 2nd "PG" after Doncic.

Total stud. If he ever gets a consistent jumper it's over. Perennial-all star. He's that good.

Funny I found myself thinking the same thing. Really like his game, very smooth and heady player. Nice size and athleticism.

Jumper is shaky but has nice form so there is some potential.
 
Kevin Knox went 12th in S.I.'s early mock draft.

TWELVE.

That should tell you something about the quality of this draft.

Kevin Knox is of that athletic wing/small 4 ilk. Like Winslow/Tatum/Ingram.

Biggest question mark coming into this year was is he a wing or a 4? But that's barely even a question that matters in the NBA anymore.

He's been knocked for his offensive polish/consistency at times. But he has all the tools. And just watching tonight he was totally in control offensively. Really reminded me of Tatum tonight Looks like he matured a TON over the off-season.

He even passed the Dicky V test with flying colors (in crunch time Dicky V keeps screaming at his shitty guards on TV to "GET THE BALL TO KNOX...GET THE BALL TO KNOX...CMON...GIVE IT TO KNOX"

Switched onto a PG with 30 seconds left and shut his water completely off.

Knox is another guy that I will be seriously watching...in case the Brooklyn pick does disappoint and end up in the 7-9 range.

Knox would have been a top 5 pick in a very solid 2017 draft. (at least the guy I saw tonight...has had consistency questions before to be fair and heard motor questions too but that's for the front office interviews to figure out)

Took a terrible angle on that shot to try and tie the game there...but still got to where he wanted pretty much. Should have just stopped two steps earlier and thrown in a little flip shot over the smaller guard. Would have made it if he didn't have to shoot around the damn backboard.


I aint trading that Brooklyn pick for shit. Having too much fun watching college basketball.

My friend who works for the Knicks was in Chicago watching all the games today. Said Koby Altman was there, watching intently. Notebook and everything.
 
Kevin Knox went 12th in S.I.'s early mock draft.

TWELVE.

That should tell you something about the quality of this draft.

Kevin Knox is of that athletic wing/small 4 ilk. Like Winslow/Tatum/Ingram.

Biggest question mark coming into this year was is he a wing or a 4? But that's barely even a question that matters in the NBA anymore.

He's been knocked for his offensive polish/consistency at times. But he has all the tools. And just watching tonight he was totally in control offensively. Really reminded me of Tatum tonight Looks like he matured a TON over the off-season.

He even passed the Dicky V test with flying colors (in crunch time Dicky V keeps screaming at his shitty guards on TV to "GET THE BALL TO KNOX...GET THE BALL TO KNOX...CMON...GIVE IT TO KNOX"

Switched onto a PG with 30 seconds left and shut his water completely off.

Knox is another guy that I will be seriously watching...in case the Brooklyn pick does disappoint and end up in the 7-9 range.

Knox would have been a top 5 pick in a very solid 2017 draft. (at least the guy I saw tonight...has had consistency questions before to be fair and heard motor questions too but that's for the front office interviews to figure out)

Took a terrible angle on that shot to try and tie the game there...but still got to where he wanted pretty much. Should have just stopped two steps earlier and thrown in a little flip shot over the smaller guard. Would have made it if he didn't have to shoot around the damn backboard.


I aint trading that Brooklyn pick for shit. Having too much fun watching college basketball.

My friend who works for the Knicks was in Chicago watching all the games today. Said Koby Altman was there, watching intently. Notebook and everything.

I'm with you... I live for this shit with the draft and actually having a pick, let alone a high pick ha.

Heard Knox has been pretty brutal so far, but it's super super early. Will have to watch his highlights tomorrow.



Another PG that could end up near the top of the draft (in large part due to positional scarcity for this draft) is Collin Sexton, who made his debut tonight after a one game suspension. His quickness and first step are elite, but he's certainly a work in progress in other areas still.


Highly recommend subscribing to this guy's YouTube account who uploaded this. He's been uploading the majority of the top draft candidates' highlights so far this year. Best part is is that he includes all of the offensive plays involving them, so you're not just seeing their strengths. Plus I don't think I'm going to sit down and watch a full Alabama game any time soon lol.

They're cut up well too, it's worth the time to watch them rather than just looking at a player's box score. For example, Marvin Bagley's numbers looked great the first couple of games, then when you watch the highlights you realize the majority of his damage came within 3 feet of the hoop against white guys with 6'5 wingspans.
 
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Also does anyone in here have ESPN Insider? I don't think I can go without DraftExpress too much longer lol. Everything is on Insider now unfortunately, and I'm not sure if it's worth it or not. Supposedly Knox is now #1 on their board? Wow

 
Also does anyone in here have ESPN Insider? I don't think I can go without DraftExpress too much longer lol. Everything is on Insider now unfortunately, and I'm not sure if it's worth it or not. Supposedly Knox is now #1 on their board? Wow

Pretty sure that was a typo? He probably meant in this game. Doncic is #1 on their board last time I checked.
 
Yeah. It'll be a cold day in hell before Duval drops to the 20's. Kid will be a top 10 pick and maybe the 2nd "PG" after Doncic.

Total stud. If he ever gets a consistent jumper it's over. Perennial-all star. He's that good.

Woo boy... I have some thoughts on this kid, and they aren't nearly as glowing.

Those games were total duds. I'll post my observations in the morning.
 
Alright, let's talk Champions Classic!

First off, some general thoughts:

-If these four teams, four of the top 5 teams in the country (by rankings) are representative of the NCAA as a whole, then I'm incredibly disappointed. The state of shooting in the NBA is literally at an all-time high. It seems EVERYONE that steps on the floor can shoot (obviously not everyone, but you get the point). That said, the shooting in these two games were disastrous. There was one player that seemed like every shot was going in, was Grayson Allen. Other than that? Awful.

-I remember going to these games back in 2013, and the talent level was through the roof. Wiggins and Parker were fantastic. Embiid didn't have a great game scoring, but you could see the talent, and the footwork for his size... my goodness. In the other game you had Gary Harris, Keith Appling, Julius Randle, Cauley-Stein. The talent level... you watched that game, and you could see the NBA guys immediately.

I... did not get that sense last night.

-Kansas' guards are not as good shooting the ball as you think they are. They look like it, but they should be so much better.

-Malik Newman is the kind of player that's good enough to get you fired.

-Bagley getting hurt sucked. Obviously.

-The college game is simply not designed to showcase their best talents. Not exactly a groundbreaking observation, but it was extremely evident last night.

-Fuck Duke for playing a 2-3 zone all night. What the fuck was that?

-OK, on to the prospects:

MARVIN BAGLEY
-The one thing that jumped off the page was just how fluid he was for his size. Watching him move around the court compared to the other bigs was shocking. It was like watching a totally different kind of athlete.

-The Duke guards literally have no clue how to use him or the other bigs. It was infuriating.

-He didn't make great contact on screens, but I don't know whether to chalk that up to Bagley or to the guards.

-I don't really have much else on him. He only played ten minutes.


JAREN JACKSON JR.
-Reminded me some of Tristan Thompson, mostly the way he moves and how he's built. He ended up being my favorite player of the night (key word there is player, not prospect).

-He may made three threes, and I'm still not sure how. I don't know how it looked on TV, but in person, his shot is a TRAINWRECK. He somehow almost has top spin on it, and I don't really know how that's possible.

-He moves around the court well for a big man, though he needs to put on weight. As well as he moved on the court, the difference between him and Bagley was night and day. Bagley is just on another level.

-I don't know that he has a great feel for the game on the offensive end. He made a couple of plays against the zone that resulted in turnovers or near turnovers because they were plays he knew he was supposed to make against a zone, but they weren't actually there. Is that making sense?

-If he were to come out this year, I could see a late lotto team taking a chance on him. And I could see him developing into a solid third big on a good team 4-5 years down the road. I do, however, think that may be his ceiling.


MILES BRIDGES
-Immediate thought: He looks a little chunky. Definitely had a spare tire going on.

-Despite shooting 5-10 from three, his shot needs work. His shot in a way reminded me of Tim Tebow throwing a football. I swear this makes sense.

-He's not going to be able to get that shot off against taller defenders, or players playing tight defense on him. He wasn't able to shoot off the bounce, and when he tried, he didn't do a great job of creating space.

-He was solid when he was the weakside attacker, and his first step was quick enough that I think against a standard defense, he'd be able to get all the way to the rim. Unfortunately, Duke was playing that fucking zone.

-Defensively, he was very solid. Moved his feet well. Was really good at recovering and blocking shots when he did get beat. He was very active on that end.

-He's not super explosive, and I came away disappointed that he's a top-10 pick (though maybe that zone had something to do with it).


GRAYSON ALLEN
-I think people have him pegged wrong. This kid isn't your classic come off screens, catch and shoot wing. He's not a Redick or a Korver.

-He doesn't have that quickness that those elite run and shoot guys do, nor does he have the know how when it comes to using screens.

-What he is is a good basketball player that's an amazing shooter. He knows the spots on the floor to float to, and he can create just enough space to get his shot off.

-My fear with him is that he doesn't have the speed or quickness to really play at the next level, and his release isn't the quickest. He's also not a big wing. I struggle to see how he fits on the next level.

-That said, he's definitely an NBA-level shooter, and that makes him incredibly dangerous in the college game.


TREVON DUVALL
-OK, let's get into this kid... I came away unimpressed.

-He's got good handles, he can break people down, he can get to the rim. He does those things really well. The problem I have with him is what comes next.

-It was like watching Cleveland Derrick Rose. He attacked when there was no reason to. He struggled to finish at the rim. He was not super explosive like Derrick Rose was.

-I was shocked at the end of the game to see he had 9 assists. I went back and watched the highlights. Counted only 2 assists that he created through his vision or break down of the defense. Otherwise, it was basically just tossing the ball to Grayson Allen as he made a shot.

-I want to give him credit for his anticipation on defense, but again, that zone. Hard to judge.

-His shot needs a ton of work. That, more than anything else, is what disappointed me the most about these games. The best players have fucked up shots. It's sad.

-My fear with him is he tricks people with his ability off the bounce, but he never actually turns into a real point guard. He is decidedly not that.

-Now, maybe he gets better at finishing as he gets older. That happens. And he's shown the ability to get to the rim. But he showed no vision, and there was no in-between game.

-In an ideal world, he's a late first round pick. In today's NBA, he can get up to the lotto.


KEVIN KNOX
-I was super underwhelmed through his first two games, but he was the most impressive prospect of the night.

-His shot looks good. He was able to create off the bounce. He is definitely a scorer though. Total tunnel vision.

-He's not super quick, but I wonder how he'd do in the NBA game that's more wide open. I think he's a small ball four.

-He has incredibly large feet. Looks like he's wearing clown shoes.

-He was beat defensively early, but he was fantastic in the second half. Moved well laterally, knew how to use his length against smaller players. Did a fantastic job on quicker ball-handlers.

-I like him a lot, but I think a team will have to account for the makeup of their team when deciding between him and Bridges.


That's all I have on the prospects. Couple of Kentucky thoughts:

-Watch out for Killeya-Jones. He could be a steal.

-Kentucky has no idea what they're doing... yet. But that talent and athleticism is through the roof.

-Kansas was playing without Preston and a couple of guys who will become eligible mid-season. However, I think if these two played again in February, the result would be very different.

-You could really see the difference between the two when Udoka was in the game for KU. He just manhandled all the Kentucky bigs. It was obvious those UK bigs were kids.
 
Alright, let's talk Champions Classic!

First off, some general thoughts:

-If these four teams, four of the top 5 teams in the country (by rankings) are representative of the NCAA as a whole, then I'm incredibly disappointed. The state of shooting in the NBA is literally at an all-time high. It seems EVERYONE that steps on the floor can shoot (obviously not everyone, but you get the point). That said, the shooting in these two games were disastrous. There was one player that seemed like every shot was going in, was Grayson Allen. Other than that? Awful.

-I remember going to these games back in 2013, and the talent level was through the roof. Wiggins and Parker were fantastic. Embiid didn't have a great game scoring, but you could see the talent, and the footwork for his size... my goodness. In the other game you had Gary Harris, Keith Appling, Julius Randle, Cauley-Stein. The talent level... you watched that game, and you could see the NBA guys immediately.

I... did not get that sense last night.

-Kansas' guards are not as good shooting the ball as you think they are. They look like it, but they should be so much better.

-Malik Newman is the kind of player that's good enough to get you fired.

-Bagley getting hurt sucked. Obviously.

-The college game is simply not designed to showcase their best talents. Not exactly a groundbreaking observation, but it was extremely evident last night.

-Fuck Duke for playing a 2-3 zone all night. What the fuck was that?

-OK, on to the prospects:

MARVIN BAGLEY
-The one thing that jumped off the page was just how fluid he was for his size. Watching him move around the court compared to the other bigs was shocking. It was like watching a totally different kind of athlete.

-The Duke guards literally have no clue how to use him or the other bigs. It was infuriating.

-He didn't make great contact on screens, but I don't know whether to chalk that up to Bagley or to the guards.

-I don't really have much else on him. He only played ten minutes.


JAREN JACKSON JR.
-Reminded me some of Tristan Thompson, mostly the way he moves and how he's built. He ended up being my favorite player of the night (key word there is player, not prospect).

-He may made three threes, and I'm still not sure how. I don't know how it looked on TV, but in person, his shot is a TRAINWRECK. He somehow almost has top spin on it, and I don't really know how that's possible.

-He moves around the court well for a big man, though he needs to put on weight. As well as he moved on the court, the difference between him and Bagley was night and day. Bagley is just on another level.

-I don't know that he has a great feel for the game on the offensive end. He made a couple of plays against the zone that resulted in turnovers or near turnovers because they were plays he knew he was supposed to make against a zone, but they weren't actually there. Is that making sense?

-If he were to come out this year, I could see a late lotto team taking a chance on him. And I could see him developing into a solid third big on a good team 4-5 years down the road. I do, however, think that may be his ceiling.


MILES BRIDGES
-Immediate thought: He looks a little chunky. Definitely had a spare tire going on.

-Despite shooting 5-10 from three, his shot needs work. His shot in a way reminded me of Tim Tebow throwing a football. I swear this makes sense.

-He's not going to be able to get that shot off against taller defenders, or players playing tight defense on him. He wasn't able to shoot off the bounce, and when he tried, he didn't do a great job of creating space.

-He was solid when he was the weakside attacker, and his first step was quick enough that I think against a standard defense, he'd be able to get all the way to the rim. Unfortunately, Duke was playing that fucking zone.

-Defensively, he was very solid. Moved his feet well. Was really good at recovering and blocking shots when he did get beat. He was very active on that end.

-He's not super explosive, and I came away disappointed that he's a top-10 pick (though maybe that zone had something to do with it).


GRAYSON ALLEN
-I think people have him pegged wrong. This kid isn't your classic come off screens, catch and shoot wing. He's not a Redick or a Korver.

-He doesn't have that quickness that those elite run and shoot guys do, nor does he have the know how when it comes to using screens.

-What he is is a good basketball player that's an amazing shooter. He knows the spots on the floor to float to, and he can create just enough space to get his shot off.

-My fear with him is that he doesn't have the speed or quickness to really play at the next level, and his release isn't the quickest. He's also not a big wing. I struggle to see how he fits on the next level.

-That said, he's definitely an NBA-level shooter, and that makes him incredibly dangerous in the college game.


TREVON DUVALL
-OK, let's get into this kid... I came away unimpressed.

-He's got good handles, he can break people down, he can get to the rim. He does those things really well. The problem I have with him is what comes next.

-It was like watching Cleveland Derrick Rose. He attacked when there was no reason to. He struggled to finish at the rim. He was not super explosive like Derrick Rose was.

-I was shocked at the end of the game to see he had 9 assists. I went back and watched the highlights. Counted only 2 assists that he created through his vision or break down of the defense. Otherwise, it was basically just tossing the ball to Grayson Allen as he made a shot.

-I want to give him credit for his anticipation on defense, but again, that zone. Hard to judge.

-His shot needs a ton of work. That, more than anything else, is what disappointed me the most about these games. The best players have fucked up shots. It's sad.

-My fear with him is he tricks people with his ability off the bounce, but he never actually turns into a real point guard. He is decidedly not that.

-Now, maybe he gets better at finishing as he gets older. That happens. And he's shown the ability to get to the rim. But he showed no vision, and there was no in-between game.

-In an ideal world, he's a late first round pick. In today's NBA, he can get up to the lotto.


KEVIN KNOX
-I was super underwhelmed through his first two games, but he was the most impressive prospect of the night.

-His shot looks good. He was able to create off the bounce. He is definitely a scorer though. Total tunnel vision.

-He's not super quick, but I wonder how he'd do in the NBA game that's more wide open. I think he's a small ball four.

-He has incredibly large feet. Looks like he's wearing clown shoes.

-He was beat defensively early, but he was fantastic in the second half. Moved well laterally, knew how to use his length against smaller players. Did a fantastic job on quicker ball-handlers.

-I like him a lot, but I think a team will have to account for the makeup of their team when deciding between him and Bridges.


That's all I have on the prospects. Couple of Kentucky thoughts:

-Watch out for Killeya-Jones. He could be a steal.

-Kentucky has no idea what they're doing... yet. But that talent and athleticism is through the roof.

-Kansas was playing without Preston and a couple of guys who will become eligible mid-season. However, I think if these two played again in February, the result would be very different.

-You could really see the difference between the two when Udoka was in the game for KU. He just manhandled all the Kentucky bigs. It was obvious those UK bigs were kids.


Thanks man!

Kevin Knox has all the tools man. Problem is that he doesn't have any decent point guard to play with and that's problematic for me for a proper evaluation for the next level.
He isn't going to be a creator early on in his career and I'd like to see how he attacks close outs, how good he is going for cuts from the weakside, can he play as the roll man and how good he is spotting up. All of this needs a good passing PG at the college level to evaluate properly.

I like his potential running the foor with his huge stides and I think he can be elite at attacking off the dribble if he becomes a 3pt threat. This guy coming at you full speed from the 3pt line should be money in the bank, especially if he plays the 4 in due time.

As for Jaren Jackson.. His build does remind me of Thompson in college. He moves with a bit more fluidity and is a much smarter defensive player, gets steals, good anticipation and timing. TT was a decent shot blocker in college so i'm a little wary of shot blockers in college if that's their main "thing".

From my computer screen, his shot didn't look that awful. He had a very quick trigger and a fast release. He does lean forward and obviously it's not optimal, but do you think he can tweak it? is it that bad? His confidence though is atleast reassuring that he feels comfortable with it.

I have him clearly in the lottery right now and giving him a ceiling as a 3rd big on a good team is a little too early. I can't see that. His ceiling is a star player and his floor is a backup PF/C in the league, atleast for me.

As for the other players right now... Gayson Allen can go suck a dick and I'm going to need to see more from the other prospects to have any kind of opinion.
 
Thanks man!

Kevin Knox has all the tools man. Problem is that he doesn't have any decent point guard to play with and that's problematic for me for a proper evaluation for the next level.
He isn't going to be a creator early on in his career and I'd like to see how he attacks close outs, how good he is going for cuts from the weakside, can he play as the roll man and how good he is spotting up. All of this needs a good passing PG at the college level to evaluate properly.

I like his potential running the foor with his huge stides and I think he can be elite at attacking off the dribble if he becomes a 3pt threat. This guy coming at you full speed from the 3pt line should be money in the bank, especially if he plays the 4 in due time.

As for Jaren Jackson.. His build does remind me of Thompson in college. He moves with a bit more fluidity and is a much smarter defensive player, gets steals, good anticipation and timing. TT was a decent shot blocker in college so i'm a little wary of shot blockers in college if that's their main "thing".

From my computer screen, his shot didn't look that awful. He had a very quick trigger and a fast release. He does lean forward and obviously it's not optimal, but do you think he can tweak it? is it that bad? His confidence though is atleast reassuring that he feels comfortable with it.

I have him clearly in the lottery right now and giving him a ceiling as a 3rd big on a good team is a little too early. I can't see that. His ceiling is a star player and his floor is a backup PF/C in the league, atleast for me.

As for the other players right now... Gayson Allen can go suck a dick and I'm going to need to see more from the other prospects to have any kind of opinion.

His shot isn't a trainwreck in the way that Azubuike's shot is a trainwreck, and maybe he can fix it. It's really the release that's the issue. He's more so throwing the ball rather than shooting it. That's what gives it the funky spin.
 
His shot isn't a trainwreck in the way that Azubuike's shot is a trainwreck, and maybe he can fix it. It's really the release that's the issue. He's more so throwing the ball rather than shooting it. That's what gives it the funky spin.

Yeah, I saw that too.. looks like he is throwing a medicine ball. Atleast AC will have good punchlines.
 
Alright, let's talk Champions Classic!

First off, some general thoughts:

-If these four teams, four of the top 5 teams in the country (by rankings) are representative of the NCAA as a whole, then I'm incredibly disappointed. The state of shooting in the NBA is literally at an all-time high. It seems EVERYONE that steps on the floor can shoot (obviously not everyone, but you get the point). That said, the shooting in these two games were disastrous. There was one player that seemed like every shot was going in, was Grayson Allen. Other than that? Awful.

-I remember going to these games back in 2013, and the talent level was through the roof. Wiggins and Parker were fantastic. Embiid didn't have a great game scoring, but you could see the talent, and the footwork for his size... my goodness. In the other game you had Gary Harris, Keith Appling, Julius Randle, Cauley-Stein. The talent level... you watched that game, and you could see the NBA guys immediately.

I... did not get that sense last night.

-Kansas' guards are not as good shooting the ball as you think they are. They look like it, but they should be so much better.

-Malik Newman is the kind of player that's good enough to get you fired.

-Bagley getting hurt sucked. Obviously.

-The college game is simply not designed to showcase their best talents. Not exactly a groundbreaking observation, but it was extremely evident last night.

-Fuck Duke for playing a 2-3 zone all night. What the fuck was that?

-OK, on to the prospects:

MARVIN BAGLEY
-The one thing that jumped off the page was just how fluid he was for his size. Watching him move around the court compared to the other bigs was shocking. It was like watching a totally different kind of athlete.

-The Duke guards literally have no clue how to use him or the other bigs. It was infuriating.

-He didn't make great contact on screens, but I don't know whether to chalk that up to Bagley or to the guards.

-I don't really have much else on him. He only played ten minutes.


JAREN JACKSON JR.
-Reminded me some of Tristan Thompson, mostly the way he moves and how he's built. He ended up being my favorite player of the night (key word there is player, not prospect).

-He may made three threes, and I'm still not sure how. I don't know how it looked on TV, but in person, his shot is a TRAINWRECK. He somehow almost has top spin on it, and I don't really know how that's possible.

-He moves around the court well for a big man, though he needs to put on weight. As well as he moved on the court, the difference between him and Bagley was night and day. Bagley is just on another level.

-I don't know that he has a great feel for the game on the offensive end. He made a couple of plays against the zone that resulted in turnovers or near turnovers because they were plays he knew he was supposed to make against a zone, but they weren't actually there. Is that making sense?

-If he were to come out this year, I could see a late lotto team taking a chance on him. And I could see him developing into a solid third big on a good team 4-5 years down the road. I do, however, think that may be his ceiling.


MILES BRIDGES
-Immediate thought: He looks a little chunky. Definitely had a spare tire going on.

-Despite shooting 5-10 from three, his shot needs work. His shot in a way reminded me of Tim Tebow throwing a football. I swear this makes sense.

-He's not going to be able to get that shot off against taller defenders, or players playing tight defense on him. He wasn't able to shoot off the bounce, and when he tried, he didn't do a great job of creating space.

-He was solid when he was the weakside attacker, and his first step was quick enough that I think against a standard defense, he'd be able to get all the way to the rim. Unfortunately, Duke was playing that fucking zone.

-Defensively, he was very solid. Moved his feet well. Was really good at recovering and blocking shots when he did get beat. He was very active on that end.

-He's not super explosive, and I came away disappointed that he's a top-10 pick (though maybe that zone had something to do with it).


GRAYSON ALLEN
-I think people have him pegged wrong. This kid isn't your classic come off screens, catch and shoot wing. He's not a Redick or a Korver.

-He doesn't have that quickness that those elite run and shoot guys do, nor does he have the know how when it comes to using screens.

-What he is is a good basketball player that's an amazing shooter. He knows the spots on the floor to float to, and he can create just enough space to get his shot off.

-My fear with him is that he doesn't have the speed or quickness to really play at the next level, and his release isn't the quickest. He's also not a big wing. I struggle to see how he fits on the next level.

-That said, he's definitely an NBA-level shooter, and that makes him incredibly dangerous in the college game.


TREVON DUVALL
-OK, let's get into this kid... I came away unimpressed.

-He's got good handles, he can break people down, he can get to the rim. He does those things really well. The problem I have with him is what comes next.

-It was like watching Cleveland Derrick Rose. He attacked when there was no reason to. He struggled to finish at the rim. He was not super explosive like Derrick Rose was.

-I was shocked at the end of the game to see he had 9 assists. I went back and watched the highlights. Counted only 2 assists that he created through his vision or break down of the defense. Otherwise, it was basically just tossing the ball to Grayson Allen as he made a shot.

-I want to give him credit for his anticipation on defense, but again, that zone. Hard to judge.

-His shot needs a ton of work. That, more than anything else, is what disappointed me the most about these games. The best players have fucked up shots. It's sad.

-My fear with him is he tricks people with his ability off the bounce, but he never actually turns into a real point guard. He is decidedly not that.

-Now, maybe he gets better at finishing as he gets older. That happens. And he's shown the ability to get to the rim. But he showed no vision, and there was no in-between game.

-In an ideal world, he's a late first round pick. In today's NBA, he can get up to the lotto.


KEVIN KNOX
-I was super underwhelmed through his first two games, but he was the most impressive prospect of the night.

-His shot looks good. He was able to create off the bounce. He is definitely a scorer though. Total tunnel vision.

-He's not super quick, but I wonder how he'd do in the NBA game that's more wide open. I think he's a small ball four.

-He has incredibly large feet. Looks like he's wearing clown shoes.

-He was beat defensively early, but he was fantastic in the second half. Moved well laterally, knew how to use his length against smaller players. Did a fantastic job on quicker ball-handlers.

-I like him a lot, but I think a team will have to account for the makeup of their team when deciding between him and Bridges.


That's all I have on the prospects. Couple of Kentucky thoughts:

-Watch out for Killeya-Jones. He could be a steal.

-Kentucky has no idea what they're doing... yet. But that talent and athleticism is through the roof.

-Kansas was playing without Preston and a couple of guys who will become eligible mid-season. However, I think if these two played again in February, the result would be very different.

-You could really see the difference between the two when Udoka was in the game for KU. He just manhandled all the Kentucky bigs. It was obvious those UK bigs were kids.

It feels gross to say, but Bagley reminds me alot of a Julius Randle.

Jackson shoots knuckle balls for sure lol. According to Mike Schmitz at DX Jackson shot 39% from 3 on 89 attempts prior to NCAA via DX Database. Will be interesting to see just how well this group of bigs (Jackson, Ayton, Bagley) shoots it this year. To me Ayton and Bagley do enough other things offensively that just having a corner three would be a game-changer.

I'm also somewhat down on Duvall. I love the current Derrick Rose comparison that's great. He sort of reminds me of Dejoute Murray when he was at Washington too, and I'm still undecided of whether that's a good thing or not. I do think he's a better passer though than you saw, and his change of speed and direction ability might end up being the best in the draft.

I'll be extremely interested in seeing Knox's shooting numbers depending on the distance of the nearest defender. One play that stuck out to me was 30 seconds into the second half, he had a catch and shoot 3 at the top of the arc with a somewhat decent close-out. He bricked the living shit out of it and rushed his shot rather than simply using his length and shooting over the top. Despite this, he did make some contested shots when he was hot early on.

But the #1 thing that I think hurts Knox is his inability to put the ball on the floor. Keep in mind I'm saying this just after watching last night's game. But EVERY time Knox put the ball on the floor he drove right, not a single time to the left. Along with this, he has no shake with the ball, just straight line drives. Nearly every time he got cut off and forced into a bad contested jumper/floater, including the game tying attempt with 30 sec left. That's something I'm definitely going to be looking for the rest of the season.
 
Any accurate comparisons of mine in the top 20 players (both of our picks could land in the 20's..its a stretch, yes). These are ranked as well, my guess..

1. DeAndre Ayton, PF/C; Arizona (Tim Duncan)

2. Marvin Bagley, PF; Duke (Kevin Garnett)

3. Luka Doncic, G; Real Madrid (Manu Ginobili)

4. Michael Porter jr., SF/PF; Missouri (Brandon Ingram)

5. Mohamed Bamba, C; Texas (Rudy Gobert)

6. Robert Williams III, F/C; Texas A&M (Larry Sanders)

7. Wendell Carter, F/C; Duke (Thon Maker)

8. Miles Bridges, SF/PF; Michigan State (Justice Winslow)

9. Collin Sexton, G; Alabama (Kyle Lowry)

10. Lonnie Walker, G; Miami (Eric Bledsoe lite)

11. Jaren Jackson jr., PF; Michigan State (Kenneth Faried)

12. Kevin Knox, SF/PF; Kentucky (Rudy Gay)

13. Bruce Brown, G; Miami (Devin Booker)

14. Troy Brown, G/F; Oregon (Wes Matthews)

15. Justin Jackson, SF/PF; Maryland (Jae Crowder)

16. Trevon Duval, PG; Duke (Damien Lillard)

17. Dzanan Musa, SF/PF; KK Cedevita (Dirk Nowitzski)

18. Mitchell Robinson, C; N/A (Tristan Thompson)

19. Chimezie Metu, PF/C; USC (Emeka Okafor)

20. Hamidou Diallo, SG; Kentucky (Danilo Gallinari)

Thoughts? Who do they compare to? Comparisons mean little, but it's fun.

You gotta work on your player comparisons man haha
 

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