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Racial Tension in the U.S.

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  • Racial Tension in the U.S.

    Votes: 16 51.6%
  • Extremist Views on the U.S.

    Votes: 2 6.5%
  • Mending Years of Racial Stereotypes.

    Votes: 2 6.5%
  • Protest Culture.

    Votes: 1 3.2%
  • Racist Idiots in the News.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Other

    Votes: 10 32.3%

  • Total voters
    31
Texas State job listing:
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Position Description: The Department of Curriculum and Instruction at Texas State University, a Hispanic-Serving Institution (HSI), invites applications for two tenured/tenure-track positions in PK-8 mathematics education at the ranks of Assistant Professor, Associate Professor, or Professor. We seek candidates who share our commitment to educational equity, to social justice, and to the recruitment and high-quality education of students from historically underserved and systemically marginalized communities. We are especially interested in applicants whose scholarly interests and work include attention to the concerns of race, ethnicity, multilingualism, immigrant, social class, gender, and diversity, broadly defined.

Responsibilities include teaching undergraduate and graduate elementary mathematics education courses, developing and publishing research in a sustained line of inquiry, collaboratively monitoring and refining degree programs, supporting student recruitment efforts, and providing service to the program, department, university and profession. Salary is competitive and commensurate with experience. Individuals from historically underrepresented groups are strongly encouraged to apply. Position will begin in Fall 2018.
https://careers.insidehighered.com/...sor-of-elementary-math-education-20180060fac/
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Thought I'd post this for discussion.
This is unbelievable that this is a posting for a math position. Why in the fuck would they want someone committed to social justice? So you can't teach math if you hold different views? Not everybody wants to share their views. Some people just want to do their work and go home. This is a government job too... I've never seen a listing like that for a California state job.
 
This is unbelievable that this is a posting for a math position. Why in the fuck would they want someone committed to social justice?

What do you think the term "social justice" means, TyGuy? Try to think about it without the intent of the pejorative "SJW" and instead in the context of the original intent of the term.

So you can't teach math if you hold different views?

Like what kind of views?

Not everybody wants to share their views. Some people just want to do their work and go home. This is a government job too... I've never seen a listing like that for a California state job.

I can't speak for job listings in particular, however, for more than 10 years, many California (state) schools have had consistent and concerted effort to promote a "commitment to social justice." Various campuses, depending upon demographics, encourage and promote social justice awareness for both staff and students.

Lastly, is this really the thread for this conversation? Not directed towards you, but, again, this thread seems to be a dumping grounds of sorts and for the life of me I can't understand how Whittaker's post has anything to do with this thread?
 
What do you think the term "social justice" means, TyGuy? Try to think about it without the intent of the pejorative "SJW" and instead in the context of the original intent of the term.



Like what kind of views?



I can't speak for job listings in particular, however, for more than 10 years, many California (state) schools have had consistent and concerted effort to promote a "commitment to social justice." Various campuses, depending upon demographics, encourage and promote social justice awareness for both staff and students.

Lastly, is this really the thread for this conversation? Not directed towards you, but, again, this thread seems to be a dumping grounds of sorts and for the life of me I can't understand how Whittaker's post has anything to do with this thread?

Honestly, I've lately posted stuff meant for the BLM thread in here because the conversation has been identical and I get confused which thread I'm in. :D

**EDIT**

ZOMG! And this time I actually WAS in the BLM thread. Geez.

Is there a way to show the full url in the browser all the time instead of the short php url?

**EDIT2**

Found it!
 
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This is unbelievable that this is a posting for a math position. Why in the fuck would they want someone committed to social justice?

They may not.

However, it is illegal to give hiring preferences because of race, gender, or sexual orientation (in California, anyway). So if they want to hire a minority, they toss in the x-factor of "committed to social justice", which will let them favor minorities, LGBT, etc., who will have participated in a "social justice activity" that the school will claim is exactly what they were looking for.

It is an effort to engage in unlawful discrimination that probably cannot be successfully challenged legally, because nobody will be able to prove it was a pretext.
 
Buzzfeed upset because Harvey Weinstein didn't assault women of color

http://archive.is/PL7Mo

Someone had a word-count mandate in writing that article. It took a point that could have easily been stated in three sentences, and dragged on for more than a half dozen paragraphs of repetitious filler.
 
Buzzfeed upset because Harvey Weinstein didn't assault women of color

http://archive.is/PL7Mo

1) But he did...
2) Having just glanced at the article .. that's actually not what it's about.. It's not a good article, but .. to phrase it the way you did is misleading to say the least.
 
You probably could have stopped there. It's a half-step beyond stream of consciousness, regardless of the point the writer was attempting to make.

I mean, the article is trash; I don't think that'd be in dispute.

But "Buzzfeed" isn't mad at Weinstein for not assaulting women of color; Weinstein just released a statement about one of his accusers who is a person of color. One of the earlier accusers was a person of color as well. That's the only point I'm making.

I don't think @David. was being serious, but, you know how others might take that post and run with it.
 
I mean, the article is trash; I don't think that'd be in dispute.

But "Buzzfeed" isn't mad at Weinstein for not assaulting women of color; Weinstein just released a statement about one of his accusers who is a person of color. One of the earlier accusers was a person of color as well. That's the only point I'm making.

I don't think @David. was being serious, but, you know how others might take that post and run with it.

He also harrassed, or at least made to feel very uncomfortable, Lupita Nyong’o for what it’s worth. And she’s a POC.
 
Moms are freaking out that ‘Moana’ costume is ‘cultural appropriation’

http://nypost.com/2017/10/16/moms-worry-trick-or-treating-as-moana-is-cultural-appropriation/

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I think a real problem is that "racism" no longer carries the meaning it once did.

I used to think we all had a more or less similar definition of the word. So that if I'd hear people say that some person or some thing was "racist", I'd pay attention. But now, it has been so watered down that I simply don't trust as valid any particular claim of "racism". Frankly, there are allegations of "racism" that are simply ridiculous, and yet, those definitions of "racism" disseminate to people who become more and more outraged based upon the "racism" experienced by them and others. It really destroys any opportunity to address issues in anything close to a united fashion because we simply don't agree on what racism is. And when rage is built upon "racism" that isn't...that leads nowhere good. It's to the point now where race-baiters invent whatever facts are necessary to advance their narrative.

Here's a bunch of college students at Wisconsin pissed at Lincoln because "he owned slaves".

University of Wisconsin-Madison Students Protest Abraham Lincoln Statue Because ‘He Owned Slaves’

http://dailysignal.com/2017/10/24/u...raham-lincoln-statue-because-he-owned-slaves/

The real kicker to that story is that the (obviously false) claim that Lincoln owned slaves was actually one made by a judge on the Wisconsin Court of Appeals who was one of two candidates running for a seat on the Wisconsin Supreme Court. It's not only shocking that someone in such an exalted position could be so wildly wrong about a matter of basic history, but it's particularly worrisome when you consider why she saw fit to bring up that "fact" in the first place.
 
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The "appropriation" thing is something I've never understood.

We want to see minorities cast as role models, right?

What happens with role models? Our kids want to be them. Isn't that the whole point of having these varying princesses like Moana?

But when our kids want to dress up as their role models on Halloween, if that role model is a minority, it's suddenly not okay for a white child to dress as such.

If we told African Americans they aren't allowed to dress like Cinderella, we'd be labeled racist, and IMO, appropriately so.

It's just so illogical and prohibits the types of social progress we should be continually striving for.

Maybe I'm missing the point and @gourimoko or someone can better explain, but I've always seen the fear of "appropriation" as bullshit.
 

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