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Is Kevin Love a Hero for Saving a Dog?

  • Yes

    Votes: 28 48.3%
  • Too Right!

    Votes: 2 3.4%
  • Hotter than Jimmy G

    Votes: 15 25.9%
  • Jim Chones

    Votes: 13 22.4%

  • Total voters
    58
I agree with this 100%. Who would play power forward? PG already didn't like it in Indy. We already know LBJ want do it for a whole game.
They probably would play a looser definition on offense. Kyrie's not your prototypical PG, nor LeBron the prototypical SF, Thompson is a PF playing C. My guess is the starting lineup, if the Faried part is true also, would look like this.

PG- Irving
SG- George
SF- James
PF- Faried
C- Thompson

OR

PG- Irving
SG- Smith or Wade
SF- George
PF- James
C- Thompson

Both of those options are much better defensively against the Warriors than last year's squad.

Because when looking at the scope of all this:

2015 Warriors < 2016 Warriors < 2017 Warriors
and
2015 Cavs < 2016 Cavs < 2017 Cavs

My guess is both teams keep improving to counter each other.
 
No one want Kevin Love. Sad :(

I think Denver will want Kevin Love. Will help them battle for a playoff spot in West. Gets them an ALL star PF to go with Jokic. This all depends on what Indiana want and want Indiana are being Offered.
 
I think Denver will want Kevin Love. Will help them battle for a playoff spot in West. Gets them an ALL star PF to go with Jokic. This all depends on what Indiana want and want Indiana are being Offered.

Denver with Love would be like watching two great players with an ALL Star and NBA CHAMPION, Kevin I am sure knows he Is beat up and might like this new role as the guy and to show players how it is. It makes sense for him to go there, if wanted what is best by him.
 
Denver with Love would be like watching two great players with an ALL Star and NBA CHAMPION, Kevin I am sure knows he us beat up and might like this new role as the guy and to show players how it is. It makes sense for him to go there, if wanted what is best by him.

But will Indiana get what they want from Denver? do they have good options to offer for this trade to be done?
 
But will Indiana get what they want from Denver? do they have good options to offer for this trade to be done?

The issue is all three teams have to agree, Usually one knowing it is over and gets fleeced. Denver has all the power here. Cavs or Indy both have to think now or long term. See the conflict.
 
I agree with this 100%. Who would play power forward? PG already didn't like it in Indy. We already know LBJ want do it for a whole game.

LeBron told Joe Johnson he would move to power forward if he signed with us. You don't think he'd be willing to do it for Paul George?
 
I was never a big fan of Love before he came to Cleveland. He grows on you.

I thnnk he is poised for a big season and hope the Cavs can find a way to add talent and keep love.. however if they do trade him and they don't get a 4th guy I'm not sure we will see much net improvement just a different look team
 
I was never a big fan of Love before he came to Cleveland. He grows on you.

I thnnk he is poised for a big season and hope the Cavs can find a way to add talent and keep love.. however if they do trade him and they don't get a 4th guy I'm not sure we will see much net improvement just a different look team

Yeah he does. He had his best season in Cleveland and if he stays healthy, maybe a better season upcoming as he's only getting more comfortable.

I've said it a few times now, add Melo, get a PG and C and let's go war with GS.
 
Easily outplayed Dray in the Finals and it still wasn't good enough for people. Yes he even played great in game 3 though his shot wasn't falling. The Cavs starters can and absolutely did play with the GSW starters. It was the bench that was completely overmatched and must be upgraded. We don't have an Iggy or a Livingston and that was the Cavs undoing. Trading Kevin Love for one year of PG13 would be the stupidest move the front office could make. Boston hasn't pulled the trigger because Ainge is smart enough to know they still wouldn't beat the Warriors or the Cavs. We should be smart enough to know he's not staying in Cleveland regardless.

Make this trade and we're looking at one year of George and pray he doesn't get hurt. One more year of LeBron because there's no way he stays with just Kyrie. One more year of Kyrie because they'd have to trade him for picks to start the rebuild. Some here seem awfully anxious to return to 2011 after next year if it means a slightly better shot at the title.

Just add Melo & maybe Wade, fix the bench and hope Lue learns how to coach. He was sadly more of a factor in the losses than Durant.
 
From Basketball Insiders site:

NBA PM: Are We Undervaluing Love?
By

James Blancarte


http://www.basketballinsiders.com/nba-pm-are-we-undervaluing-love/#




The 2015-16 NBA Finals ended in spectacular fashion for the Cleveland Cavaliers. The team won a thrilling Game 7 on the road against the Golden State Warriors. Kyrie Irving scored the game-clinching three-point shot. LeBron James had an unbelievable defensive sequence with a coast-to-coast chase down block to preserve the win. And Cavaliers forward Kevin Love had the defensive sequence of his life as he stayed in front of superstar Stephen Curry for an entire possession, ultimately denying Curry a clean look at a crucial three-point shot that missed the mark.

Unfortunately, the 2016-17 NBA Finals didn’t have the same storybook ending for the Cavaliers. There was no signature plays for the Cavaliers stars as the team fell to the Warriors in five games. Plenty of factors are to blame for the loss, the biggest being the addition of forward Kevin Durant to the already loaded Warriors, which made a Cleveland repeat a daunting task. However, at least some of the blame landed at the feet of Love. How much more could Love have done in the Finals?

Despite the long odds and uneven play of several Cavalier players, a good amount of the blame landed at the feet of Kevin Love. So far this offseason, there has been plenty of speculation involving various trade targets the Cavaliers are seeking to acquire. The primary bait in nearly all of these alleged trade proposals is Love. But does anyone really want Love?

In five 2016-17 NBA Finals games, Love scored 16 points, pulled down 11.2 rebounds and notched 2.2 steals per game in 32.2 minutes. As the clear third option on the team, these basic stats show solid contributions. In fact, they are in line with Love’s entire playoff performance where these averages were virtually identical.

Unfortunately, digging deeper you find some more telling statistics. In the playoffs overall, Love had an offensive rating of 118.7 and a defensive rating of 107.2. In the Finals, that reversed for the worse on both the offensive (105.8) and defensive end (119.5). Also, Love’s shooting percentages dropped off across the board. In addition, although he scored well enough in three of the first four games, Love was a no-show in the Game 5 closeout, scoring only six points and failing to make any sort of notable positive impact.

Unlike the Cavaliers championship win the season prior, it is understandable if the 2016-17 NBA Finals left a bad taste in your mouth if you’re a Kevin Love fan. Instead of looking at the immediate past, let’s quickly take a look at who Love was before being traded to the Cavaliers.

Love spent the first six seasons of his career with the Minnesota Timberwolves. He never led his team to the playoffs (nor has anyone else since he left), which could be held against him to a certain degree. However, Love’s Timberwolves teams usually never featured quite enough firepower to be a serious contender anyway. In his last season (2013-14) with the Timberwolves, Love averaged a career-high 26.1 points and 12.5 rebounds, while hitting 2.5 threes on 6.6 attempts in 36.3 minutes per game over 77 total games played.

The following year, Love’s scoring dropped by roughly 10 points, down to 16.4 points per game. Love went from the focal point of the offense, dictating the action from the high post, to being converted to a three-point specialist and rebounder — a role that Love has never truly broken out of. Love will turn 29 by early next season and the hope for a team trading for him is that he would revert to his pre-Cavaliers day when he was considered a top power forward in the league and was even on the short list of top players in the league.

Look no further than forward Chris Bosh for someone who quickly rebounded after making a similar sacrifice as Love in order to be the third star player of a championship team alongside James. Following James’s departure from Miami, Bosh’s averages jumped up in field goals, free throws and three-point shots made and attempted, while his rebounding and assists also jumped up while only playing 3.4 minutes more per game. The biggest dip came in Bosh’s shooting percentages, which dropped due to the higher volume and suffering more attention from opposing defenses without James. Miami was able to build around Bosh and Dwyane Wade, with Bosh resuming a leading man role again as his usage rates returned to the levels he maintained earlier in his career with the Toronto Raptors.

An additional factor working against Love is the way the NBA game is played has shifted so quickly over the past few years. Teams now actively seek out players with greater defensive versatility. The better teams, like the Warriors, will punish opponents who have weaker or limited defensive players. In the Finals, the Cavaliers often couldn’t play Love in critical moments since he struggled to switch and stay in front his opponents consistently. His defensive futility played a role in the Cavaliers’ inability to prevent Golden State from generating open looks at the basket and from three-point range consistently. To address this, the team would often trot out almost retired veteran forward Richard Jefferson in key moments as the team felt more comfortable with Jefferson’s ability to switch on defense and fit alongside Tristan Thompson.

Love’s lack of defensive versatility (e.g., he can’t slide over to center as Bosh did for the HEAT) and his inability to step up in the Finals have played a role in the relative lack of interest in the trade market. Due to Love already being in the prime of his career, it doesn’t make much sense for a rebuilding team (such as the Pacers if they simultaneously trade forward Paul George) to acquire him as Love’s prime won’t match the team’s long term timeline. That leaves potential contenders on the cusp as the most viable trade recipients of Love.

Additionally, there have been rumblings recently regarding inevitable buyouts of various veteran players, including Wade and New York Knicks forward Carmelo Anthony, among others. A potential contender that might trade for Love could presumably wait for teams to start buying out players during the 2017-18 season and seek to sign one of these veterans for a low price and short period of time. It’s unlikely that a player of Love’s caliber would be available through a buyout, but the possibility of adding a similarly talented player while retaining other players and assets that would be lost in a deal for Love may be a more appealing option. With this in mind, it makes sense that Love may not be generating huge interest in the trade market despite his obvious talent.



Love has taken on a smaller role over the last few years as part of a very talented team. Any team trading for Love must hope that he can either revert to the star player he was during his time in Minnesota, or that he can successfully intergrate with a championship contending team that is in need of a sharpshooting big man. Based on his overall play over the last few seasons, neither of those scenarios is a guaranteed outcome.
 
If Love were still in Minnesota, and we were in the same position as we are now (winning one of three against GS, and not having a "big 4" like them) Love would be a guy the Cavs and their fans would be super excited to get.
 

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