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Potential 2019 Head coaches for the Browns

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I'mWithDan said:
It truly is something I'm not exactly sure how to react to.

A coach, with a .600+ winning percentage, is publicly stating "Nah, I'm good on the Packers job......Cleveland is the only place I'm coaching again."

We truly are hitting what feels like a turning point. Ton of young talent, a franchise QB, a changing culture and coaches like Arians lining up to guide the ship.

It feels like it is going to be a really fun ride.
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The troubling thing is that we likely won't interview him or hire him.
 
thedarkness2332 said:
The troubling thing is that we likely won't interview him or hire him.
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I'm not too caught up in that aspect of it......I think at this point, after just 1 year of roster turnover, Dorsey should be trusted to install his guy.

It is more so just exciting to see a coach that accomplished, flatly state that we are a coaching destination.

In years past, I have always been incredibly underwhelmed by the candidates we have attracted. This time seems very different, which is encouraging.
 
I'mWithDan said:
I'm not too caught up in that aspect of it......I think at this point, after just 1 year of roster turnover, Dorsey should be trusted to install his guy.
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Based on his past scouting behavior, his guy appears to be Lincoln Riley. Do we have enough working for us to convince Riley to leave OU? I think so but there's still a lot of college ball to be played. If OU somehow wins the Nat'l Championship, how could a coach leave that situation without getting publicly raked over the coals?

It's awesome that Arians is helping to legitimize the job and I would welcome him with open arms but Dorsey has to be leaning Riley. You don't need to go in person to "scout" a coach's schemes.
 
thedarkness2332 said:
Unless he's just there... to scout players.
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Obviously that crossed my mind as well but to go to back-to-back games when you likely could get the scoop on a player after one visit? The whole story leaves a lot of question marks.
 
Kbiz said:
Based on his past scouting behavior, his guy appears to be Lincoln Riley. Do we have enough working for us to convince Riley to leave OU? I think so but there's still a lot of college ball to be played. If OU somehow wins the Nat'l Championship, how could a coach leave that situation without getting publicly raked over the coals?

It's awesome that Arians is helping to legitimize the job and I would welcome him with open arms but Dorsey has to be leaning Riley. You don't need to go in person to "scout" a coach's schemes.
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I see it as the best time to jump. He could have different QB's win the Heisman in back-to-back years and wind up without a National Title. If that happens, he'll likely never win one at Oklahoma. The odds of duplicating that kind of QB play ever again is almost impossible.

If they win, Murray is gone and it's likely a rebuild/reload year. What would Riley have left to prove if they won this year?

If Riley wants to coach in the NFL, the Browns seem like the perfect opportunity for him for a number of reasons.
 
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Soda said:
I'm genuinely interested, if anyone can articulate it, how the WR route tree has changed over time. I had assumed that the route tree was constant; Saturday seems to imply that it isn't.
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I don't think the route tree has changed. The routes are still the same as they always were. What's changed is how offensive play designers and play callers set up their route combinations to beat various coverages. That is what has dramatically changed over the last several years.

To really simplify it even further.

Every team in the league runs slants, digs and out routes. These are basic routes that all NFL teams utilize.

But not every team pairs up a slant with a dig (this is just hypothetical, not reality) on the weak side of the formation out of a stacked alignment with the dig route from the X receiver coming off a sight adjustment based on the QB and WR reading zone v. man coverage presnap.

There are a million layers that can be peeled back when it comes to play calling and scheme.
 
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Soda said:
I'm genuinely interested, if anyone can articulate it, how the WR route tree has changed over time. I had assumed that the route tree was constant; Saturday seems to imply that it isn't.
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There’s more spacing. A good offense has all the receivers ending up at different points on the field. Some of the stuff Green Bay was running were those old routes where guys were crossing near each other and having multiple guys ending their routes within a couple yards of each other. Which gives more defenders an opportunity to break up the play.
 
The Wizard of Moz said:
Well if the cofounder of cheesehead tv said it...
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Funny, but a tad ignorant. Nagler has been around the NFL for a long time, especially Green Bay. He's had almost unrivaled access to the Packers than any other reporter.

How would you take it if someone quoted something Ben said with, "well, if the founder of a Cavs blog said it..."?
 
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