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To be clear, I've never claimed "Cleveland fans are the best in the world." That would be hyperbolic.

I'm definitely saying that hyperbole in the other extreme, "Cleveland fans are the joke of the sports world," is not only wildly hyperbolic in the other direction, but it brings nothing to this website other than pissing everyone off.

If people want to discuss how Cleveland sports fans can improve, that would be an enjoyable discussion.

It's funny because I don't think there is necessarily a common thread along the three teams. The casual fans seems wildly different to me. Cavs fans are informed but not over The Decision, Browns fans are passionate but uninformed, Indians fans are bitter and absent.

Even the die-hards vary in my mind. I know a TON of incredibly in-depth Indians sites/blogs/forums - same with the Cavs - but none for the Browns.
 
Cliff Lee claimed off of waivers.

Indians please. :thumbup:
 
Cliff Lee claimed off of waivers.

Indians please. :thumbup:

1st of all, why?

2nd of all, it doesn't mean anything. Every name will be put on waivers. If a team claims him, their current team can 'pull him back' off of waivers.
 
1st of all, why?

2nd of all, it doesn't mean anything. Every name will be put on waivers. If a team claims him, their current team can 'pull him back' off of waivers.

Partially kidding, so, don't get to analytical.

And it seems like something the Indians FO might do to try to win back over the fans.
 
Partially kidding, so, don't get to analytical.

And it seems like something the Indians FO might do to try to win back over the fans.

Your post didn't exactly look sarcastic. Who's getting analytical? I was merely pointing out that just because he got claimed doesn't mean anything.

Cliff Lee once bashed the fans himself, I'm sure they could find a more popular former Indian for cheaper if they want to do that.
 
Jon Heyman ‏@JonHeymanCBS
wont be easy for claiming team to acquire cliff lee. #phillies sought to pay no $ & get big prospect in pre-deadline talks

No...fucking...way...
 
Dodgers claimed Lee, they have until Sunday to work out a deal.
 
Dodgers claimed Lee, they have until Sunday to work out a deal.

I would love to see that team get Lee. Figures the team that was in shambles a year ago is in a hurry to repeat the process all over again. With the contract they picked up in hanley and potentially adding lee's contract as well, this team could be in a world of hurt when those guys are washed up making 40 million between the two.
 
I would love to see that team get Lee. Figures the team that was in shambles a year ago is in a hurry to repeat the process all over again. With the contract they picked up in hanley and potentially adding lee's contract as well, this team could be in a world of hurt when those guys are washed up making 40 million between the two.

Preach...

Makes me all the more confident that I could transition into a front office role someday. :thumbup:
 

It was one of the busiest July 31 non-waiver trade deadlines in recent memory, but what about a handful of trades that did not happen but should have? These were deals that made a lot of sense, even perhaps got discussed between teams, yet never materialized. They could be the one deal that makes the difference between the postseason and sitting at home this fall.

Here are five trades that should have happened but didn't. But who knows? They might still have a chance of happening in August or the offseason.

1. Shin-Soo Choo to the Pittsburgh Pirates in exchange for OF Starling Marte

The Pittsburgh Pirates have a legitimate chance of winning the NL Central or securing one of the two wild card berths this season, and they will finish over .500 for the first time in two decades. Therefore, this is the year to go for it.

Although they made solid deals for Wandy Rodriguez, Travis Snider and Gaby Sanchez, they really needed to add a proven bat down the stretch. A trade of Marte to the Indians for Choo would have given the Pirates one of the best all-around right fielders in baseball. Choo is an above-average defender with a plus arm and speed. He’s on pace to hit 20 homers and steal 20 bases and has a career OBP of .383. He would have given important protection to Andrew McCutchen especially when teams start to pitch around him in September.

Indeed, Marte has a chance to be a solid above-average major leaguer in the long term, but it will take him a few years to develop into his potential. For the Indians, they might be receiving a lesser player than Choo, but it would make sense for them because they would control Marte for six years rather than the one year they have left with Choo.


2. Cliff Lee to the Texas Rangers in exchange for 3B Mike Olt and RHP Cody Buckel

The Texas Rangers need a No. 1 starter to match up in the postseason with the Detroit Tigers’ Justin Verlander, the White Sox’s Chris Sale, the Tampa Bay Rays’ David Price, the New York Yankees’ CC Sabathia or the Los Angeles Angels’ Jered Weaver. General manager Jon Daniels tried to pry Zack Greinke away from the Milwaukee Brewers before he was ultimately traded to the Angels.

With Felix Hernandez not on the trade market, the only No. 1 starter that could be had is Lee of the Phillies. Mike Olt would solve the Phillies’ third base position and fifth spot in the lineup for the next decade while Buckel should develop into a middle-of-the-rotation starter. With a revised rotation of Lee, Dempster, Harrison, Darvish and Holland, the Rangers would be poised for a third chance at a World Series championship. This would be a painful deal for the Rangers -- their championship window is open right now and it could mean the difference between being the first world champion Texas Rangers squad rather than remembered as baseball’s version of the Buffalo Bills.
3. Matt Garza to the Arizona Diamondbacks for LHP Patrick Corbin and OF A.J. Pollock
The Diamondbacks were primarily on the sideline while the Los Angeles Dodgers and San Francisco Giants significantly improved their teams at the deadline. The Dodgers added Hanley Ramirez, Shane Victorino, Brandon League and Randy Choate in a flurry of moves, while the Giants countered with their deal with the Phillies to bring on Hunter Pence. The D-backs did acquire Chris Johnson and Matt Albers but neither are difference makers. However, a deal for Garza would be. They could send Corbin and Pollock to the Chicago Cubs, who would get younger and fill Garza’s void in the rotation with Corbin. Meanwhile, Pollock could secure an everyday outfield spot for the future. The deal would allow the D-backs to hold on to top pitching prospects like Trevor Bauer, Tyler Skaggs and Archie Bradley. You win with starting pitching, and a move like this would really narrow the gap for them.
4. Chase Headley to the Baltimore Orioles for IF Jonathan Schoop and LHP Zach Britton
It’s only a matter of time before the San Diego Padres trade Headley to open up third base for Jedd Gyorko, who is their future. The Orioles desperately need to find a long-term solution at third and Headley would be the perfect fit. In return, the Padres would have received Schoop, who they could have flipped in another deal. They also take a calculated risk that Britton would benefit from a change of scenery and his sinker would play well at Petco Park. Britton still possesses great upside, and if they could get him back to form he could become a 12-game winner for the Padres going forward.
5. Jason Vargas to the Washington Nationals for OF Destin Hood, LHP Daniel Rosenbaum and 1B Tyler Moore
The Nationals have Stephen Strasburg on a pitch limit and are expected to end his season when he gets to around 180 innings pitched. This means they’ll need to replace him in the rotation for the end of the pennant race and into the postseason. The Mariners need more offense and are going to have to start dealing pitching for some bats.

The left-handed Vargas would fit nicely in their rotation, as he’s having his third solid season in a row. Vargas, 29, is 12-7 this year with a 3.71 ERA and 1.14 WHIP in 23 games started for the last-place Mariners. In return, the Mariners would acquire a power bat in Tyler Moore; an athletic outfielder with above-average tools in Hood, and future back-of-the-rotation starter in Rosenbaum. The trade of Vargas would also open the door for the impending arrivals of top pitching prospects Danny Hultzen and Taijuan Walker.

Jim Bowden clearly reads this board....Or at least the people who write his articles do.
 
Jim Bowden clearly reads this board....Or at least the people who write his articles do.

Why would the rangers take on lee and that contract for Olt? I don't see how that trade makes sense with Hamilton ready to hit free agency, and i assume that was part of the reason that the Rangers didn't pull the trigger.
 
Why would the rangers take on lee and that contract for Olt? I don't see how that trade makes sense with Hamilton ready to hit free agency, and i assume that was part of the reason that the Rangers didn't pull the trigger.

Speaking of Hamilton...what a pussy.

You can't quit dip? Oh forgive me while I forgive you for the last three months of shit.

Here's an idea, quit in November....
 
Speaking of Hamilton...what a pussy.

You can't quit dip? Oh forgive me while I forgive you for the last three months of shit.

Here's an idea, quit in November....

wut
 

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