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Two things, I want massive rep if this is right.

Overheard a rumor that Paul DePodesta is now working in some capacity with the Browns (starts this week). For those who do not recognize the name, he was the Assistant GM to Billy Beane during the early years (not sure length of duration) of Moneyball.

Second rumor, Johnny has yet to be cut because the Browns are trying to buy time. A few people within the organization firmly believe someone from Dallas has been in contact with Johnny..
 
bigfoot5415 said:
Two things, I want massive rep if this is right.

Overheard a rumor that Paul DePodesta is now working in some capacity with the Browns (starts this week). For those who do not recognize the name, he was the Assistant GM to Billy Beane during the early years (not sure length of duration) of Moneyball.

Second rumor, Johnny has yet to be cut because the Browns are trying to buy time. A few people within the organization firmly believe someone from Dallas has been in contact with Johnny..
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1. Paul DePodesta, who originally worked for the Indians, is VP of player development and scouting for the Mets. If he had left there I think it would have hit the real media by now.

2. Why would the Browns need to ' buy time' on a roster decision when there are no deadlines until training camp? This one also sounds like shenanigans. And really, even if the Browns can prove tampering, what does it matter? Johnny is still going to be a jump passing midget who has team veterans question his devotion. Johnny isn't going to suddenly change once closer to home. Just let him go.

3. Need to confirm on these- were they also reported on JMcCurry Sports?
 
Binkster said:
I don't think I have any confusion surrounding the structure. What I am confused about are the separation of duties.

Is the GM providing draft pick recommendations to Brown who ultimately pulls the trigger? Who is executing trades? If the coach is helping to hire the GM, is the coach technically elevated above the GM in terms of personnel?
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The GM will really be "scouting director" type, responsible for scouting and acquiring talent. He will report to Sashi. I'd imagine that means yes, the GM will provide all his info and recommendations to Brown, who will have veto power.

However, I think too many people are assuming Brown will use that veto power and pick players himself (not saying you're doing that here at all, @Binkster ).

Brown (and the new coach, and Haslam) have the opportunity to bring in a guy that shares their vision, so while I'm sure there will be differing opinions at times and people on different pages, ultimately they should be on the same chapter, at least, and be able to come to a conclusion.

I don't think either the GM or HC have more power than the other. They're just giving the HC the opportunity to help bring in a guy he believes will assemble the best team for his system.

Each has their own responsibility that nobody else shares (HC in charge of game day rosters, GM in charge of scouting/finding talent), but outside of that, neither seems to be setup to have much power to start.
 
No one seems to be answering the relevant question- what jazz club did he own? Some of them are pretty hip.
 
MoFlo said:
The GM will really be "scouting director" type, responsible for scouting and acquiring talent. He will report to Sashi. I'd imagine that means yes, the GM will provide all his info and recommendations to Brown, who will have veto power.

However, I think too many people are assuming Brown will use that veto power and pick players himself (not saying you're doing that here at all, @Binkster ).

Brown (and the new coach, and Haslam) have the opportunity to bring in a guy that shares their vision, so while I'm sure there will be differing opinions at times and people on different pages, ultimately they should be on the same chapter, at least, and be able to come to a conclusion.

I don't think either the GM or HC have more power than the other. They're just giving the HC the opportunity to help bring in a guy he believes will assemble the best team for his system.

Each has their own responsibility that nobody else shares (HC in charge of game day rosters, GM in charge of scouting/finding talent), but outside of that, neither seems to be setup to have much power to start.
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Makes sense, thanks. I'm somewhat of an eternal optimist when it comes to this team so I won't be one of those calling for Haslam to sell the team just because he hired an analytics guy.

I actually kind of applaud the outside the box thinking. It's so far opposite from "doing the same thing over and over."

I'd be lying if I said I wasn't concerned with Brown's lack of football knowledge, but I'd take the guy with the complex analytical formulas built on algorithms over any GM who has made personnel decisions based on "gut feelings" and moxie any day.
 
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Binkster said:
Makes sense, thanks. I'm somewhat of an eternal optimist when it comes to this team so I won't be one of those calling for Haslam to sell the team just because he hired an analytics guy.

I actually kind of applaud the outside the box thinking. It's so far opposite from "doing the same thing over and over."

I'd be lying if I said I wasn't concerned with Brown's lack of football knowledge, but I'd take the guy with the complex analytical formulas built on algorithms over any GM who has made personnel decisions based on a "gut feelings" and moxie any day.
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I'm not as much an optimist, but every year I don't see how it can get any worse. That leads me to think next season will be better.

But they generally find a way to be worse.
 
SuperSurge said:
I'm not as much an optimist, but every year I don't see how it can get any worse. That leads me to think next season will be better.

But they generally find a way to be worse.
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It can only go up from here! ... Right?

In all seriousness, hitting on QB with the second pick would expedite this entire rebuild. I also don't think we're going to gut the roster down to the bare bones and send this team back to the stone age.

It shouldn't be irrational to expect to complete a rebuild in 3 years or less.
 
Does anyone have a link to any good reads on the use of analytics in football? Pretty curious about it. There's a paint brush in it for you
 
bigfoot5415 said:
Two things, I want massive rep if this is right.

Overheard a rumor that Paul DePodesta is now working in some capacity with the Browns (starts this week). For those who do not recognize the name, he was the Assistant GM to Billy Beane during the early years (not sure length of duration) of Moneyball.

Second rumor, Johnny has yet to be cut because the Browns are trying to buy time. A few people within the organization firmly believe someone from Dallas has been in contact with Johnny..
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Would be fascinating to see the adjustment in an analytics strategy that doesn't revolve around the budgetary constraints of Major League Baseball.
 
The Wizard of Moz said:
Does anyone have a link to any good reads on the use of analytics in football? Pretty curious about it. There's a paint brush in it for you
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Here is a solid article....now give me paintbrush!

How Player Tracking and Analytics Will Change the NFL
  • August 28, 2015
More recently, advanced analytics have grown to be a major part of the National Basketball Association, as well. Despite the concept being met with some criticism, at the present time, 27 out of the 30 teams in the NBA have an analytics department, as does the league itself. Although they haven’t had the same kind of win/loss effect on the basketball court as they’ve had on the baseball diamond, there is no denying that analytics are changing the future of the NBA as we know it right in front of our eyes.


Major League Baseball may have started the phenomenon, and the NBA may have expanded the concept by making it an essential part of their game. However, it’s the National Football League that will be rolling out a new technology during the 2015 season that could take analytics to a whole new level.





After performing a test run on the technology during the 2014 season, the NFL will now be using in-game tracking equipment to collect data that will allow them to calculate and track where players are, where they’re going, how fast they’re getting there, and the routes and angles they are taking to get there. Every player in the league will have a tiny sensor tag attached to their shoulder pads that will send signals on all of their movements to receiving sensors that will be located all over every stadium in the league. The resulting data will do everything from improve the overall fan experience before, during, and after game broadcasts, and serve as an invaluable tool for coaches and team personnel executives.

The technology is still a work in progress, and the data won’t actually be available to NFL teams in 2015, but according to former NFL wide receiver David Anderson, who now works as an executive for Second Spectrum, a sports data analytics company in Los Angeles, California, it still has the ability to be game-changing.

“Coaches, scouts, and even fans will be able to easily look at the overall skillsets of players at every position on the field. For example, this will be a great tool for evaluating how well wide receivers can get off of press coverage. Is ‘Player A’ running 5-6 yards laterally to get two yards upfield? Things like this do show up on film, but now we will be able to actually quantify them.”

Anderson continued,

“I absolutely think this a good thing for the game of football, and honestly, I can’t find any negatives here. It shouldn’t result in any lost fans, but at the same time, it also has the potential to attract a different, more math-minded type of fan to the game. On top of that, the league will also be able to use this stuff to improve player safety while also making the game more entertaining and fan-friendly.”

So, where will fans be able to see this technology in 2015? For the most part, it will be available during television broadcasts during instant replays to show players’ routes on specific plays. On place where NFL fans will not find this technology implemented is on the recently released videogame Madden 16. As Madden Gameplay Designer and former NFL offensive lineman Clint Oldenburg put it, “It’s really cool stuff, next-gen types of stats. We (EA Sports) met with the NFL about how to use it in Madden, but it was actually too advanced to be fun in the video game world.”

We may not get to see the full effect of the NFL’s new player tracking analytics technology in 2015, but this is definitely something worth keeping an eye on for NFL fans going forward.​
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bigfoot5415 said:
Here is a solid article....now give me paintbrush!
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To the articles point, it sounds like analytics will help determine whose movements will result in a successful outcome (WR route running, DT movements, QB throwing motion, RB change of pace, etc). While im not all in on using analytics, I like it as a compliment to the eye test; not as a replacement.
 
I also think his role is more of decider and mediator between coach and GM. I sort of like the approch as it allows a GM and coach to work together to have one vision. This also tells me we are going to hire someone with limited experiences hence why we won't give the coach or GM final say yet.
 
cavsfan1985 said:
I also think his role is more of decider and mediator between coach and GM. I sort of like the approch as it allows a GM and coach to work together to have one vision. This also tells me we are going to hire someone with limited experiences hence why we won't give the coach or GM final say yet.
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Hence why im thinking its Peyton. Why else would you A) announce limited power for GM & B) state you're going to pick your coach first.

Coach is pressing because we dont have one. Jackson could be it (tie to DeFillippo/Haslam mentioned desire to retain some staff. Flip & Jackson worked together in Oakland). Or it could be Gase, who is close with Peyton.
 
Frank Reynolds said:
That Alec Scheiner rubs me the wrong fucking way. I have heard him on the radio pimping the Brown's facilities and he talked like a salesman extensively about "improving the fan experience."

What these fuckers fail to realize is that we'd all sit on rusty bleachers if we could have a good fucking football team.

Oh great you're pumping the soundtrack to Halloween through the loudspeakers, THAT'LL DO IT!

Jesus if that guy is promoted to making legitimate football decisions; head for the hills. Eliminate the team.
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What's even worse is the fan experience at Browns games is subpar even despite the product on the field. I went to the home opener vs the Titans and was less than impressed. Dirty ass seats (it was the HOME OPENER, you have all season to get the stadium in pristine condition), still no improvement on the wifi situation, hardly any highlights of other games going on around the NFL, TVs in the concourse weren't even turned on, lack of quality beer and food options, no giveaways, etc etc. Again, this is for a season opener... when teams usually go above and beyond to make the experience as fun as possible.

The fan experience at Cavs games versus Browns games are night and day. And I'm not even talking about the teams themselves. Outside of tailgaiting in the Muni Lot... Going to Browns games feels like an inconvenience and a chore. Going to Cavs games is a delight. Haslem and Schenier could learn a thing from Dan Gilbert and Co.
 
macbdog said:
No one seems to be answering the relevant question- what jazz club did he own? Some of them are pretty hip.
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Bohemian Caverns Jazz Club. 3.5 stars on Yelp.

Kathryn L. gives it 4 stars, and states:

"The DJ was spinning true old school R&B vibes to the tunes of BBD and Al B. Sure to quickly note..we ended up dancing more than sitting. My gal pal is from Washington State and I don't think she sat down once LOL. "

LOL indeed. Looking good so far. However, Steven A. is very sorry that he has to write this 2 star review, but states:

"The service was non-existent. I tried to make eye contact and we patiently waited with menus in hand to place our food and drink order. Not a glass of water was poured. For an hour and a half the waitress did not come once to take our order. We were thirsty and hungry and I was certainly ready to be a good paying and tipping customer. The show ended and we never saw a server. We even had $5 in each of our hands for the green tip bucket that never made it to us, either. We went to another restaurant and had a late dinner and a drink. Fortunately for me, my friend was a sport--most gals I know wouldn't have been so polite and gracious. I was humiliated."

This guy was humiliated in front of his date because of the lack of service, so this doesn't bode well for concessions. Lastly, Mike W. gives it a 2 star review as well, stating:

"But for anyone who, like me, is mobility limited, Bohemian Caverns poses serious risks. Getting into or out of the place requires that you navigate a set of stairs that is uneven, curved, dimly lit, and lacking a hand rail. I had hoped they might have an alternate entrance for disabled people. But trying to get an answer to that question is an exercise in frustration; they don't answer the phone, and emails are not returned.

I've been to lots of jazz clubs. This is the only one I've seen that goes to such lengths to shut out a large potential audience, and that doesn't seem to give a damn about it."

So it is looking like we will have great halftime entertainment and great music played throughout the game, however concessions will suffer and handicapped people will have a very tough time getting to the stadium. Overall, I'm cool with it.
 
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