You just buy whatever the reporters are selling.
As opposed to what? Some shit we're just going to make up because we don't like reality?
Blatt got fired because... nothing? No reason at all?? Or.. wait a minute.. cuz LeBron right?
I keep bringing it up anytime someone says Blatt and Lue are on equal footing. It seems weird that this keeps getting said..
Like
how are they on equal footing..?
One guy got fired unceremoniously and the other guy won a championship. I can't think of any reason that Lue's accomplishments would be diminished in this way, only to support Blatt's failures. Can you help me understand why this is, because up til now, I've struggled to understand this...
Furthermore, why are you (or anyone) ignoring media reports?
Why ignore observable, reported information? And if you do choose to ignore it, then you're doing so in favor of what? What contradictory information do you have that speaks to your conclusion?
In essence, what evidence do you have to back up your supposition? Because a lot of what I read sounds like folks speaking from their own imagination rather than anything that's been reported.
The coach who got fired this year had a great record and the biggest problem you had with him was that he didn't use Love correctly.
That was one of many, but I went through a list up-thread. My post wasn't intended to re-tread all of this, but since you seem to wanna go down that road, we can add these to the list:
1) Why are you late to practice, or any team function? Why be late to depart for a road game?
2) Why are you not holding players accountable?
3) Why are you not able to figure out an offensive system that works?
4) Why don't you have control over the players and the locker-room?
Why are posters so ready to overlook these issues? Because it makes Blatt look bad? So what?
If this were Mike Brown, we'd be tearing him apart.. Why is David Blatt getting a pass?
Again,
honestly, what am I missing?
Half a year and a new coach and Love is shooting a blistering 30% from the post. Mission accomplished? Love ain't integrated, he might not ever be.
Mission accomplished? Umm, maybe you haven't been keeping up with current events, but we just won the NBA Finals. We did so, largely because Lue outcoached Steve Kerr. I don't think you'd find a single commentator that would disagree with that notion.
I am not going to sit here and argue that Lue is the inferior coach. That result is now carved in stone. He won, he has had more success.
Great.
You can't convince me Blatt is a bad coach either.
I'm not trying to, I said that before.
It's like, I have to constantly say that I think Blatt is a great coach, or else.. Yes I wanted him hired over Lue, I was excited he was the coach. I never wanted him fired, and argued against it the day of. It wasn't until I heard Griffin's press conference, read the media reports, and saw how the players reacted that I realized it was the right decision.
But
in this post, you're misstating my position and also calling me a "hater." So you're kind of dragging me into bashing the guy, when my point is that he doesn't deserve anywhere near the same level of credit as Ty Lue, and you do a disservice to Lue by equating the two. Lue is the superior coach
on this team; period.
So to be clear, my problem is when folks say he's somehow equal or better than Lue, for.. reasons. I'm really not trying to say Blatt is a bad coach, because I don't believe that.
Or that he was undeservingly fired.. That's, well, that's frankly bullshit.
Or when they try to ignore how awful the Cavs locker room was, and whose fault that was.
Or how they'll ignore we weren't running an offensive system, at all, whatsoever.
There's so many things you are choosing to overlook, because it seems you have a preconceived notion about Blatt and how he ran the team.
What if LeBron himself told you Blatt wasn't cut out for the job, would you believe him, or no?
He has had success everywhere he has been
Except in the NBA. Except in Cleveland. Because in the NBA, he quite frankly blew his chance and now he's back overseas.
And if he's so great, why did no team pick him up? Why is he coaching in Turkey and not in the league?
You think other GMs are cool with coaches that can't manage star players, can't manage their own time, and have an irrational sense of self-accomplishment?
If we're so ready to criticize, why not criticize Blatt? Again, I keep repeating this because it seems I've never gotten an answer.. Just attacked whenever I try to speak what I think is the truth about our ex-coach.
and got to the finals and won 2 games in his NBA rookie year as an NBA coach.
Did we win those games because of him, or in spite of him?
The reporter you cited upthread says it was in spite of him.... Go figure.
That is damn good with a thrown together Roster and missing 2 of your 3 allstars.
See above.
If you can't give him props for that... You aren't a hater?
It's not about being a hater... Go through 1.5 years of posts, and find hate.
What type of shit is this anyway? I have to be "a hater" because I'm saying give credit where it's due -- and Lue deserves the credit. Don't put forward false equivalencies suggesting anyone could do it if Lue did it...
That makes me a hater?
So, if someone says Mike Brown isn't a good coach, are they a hater too? Or is it only if it's David Blatt?
C'mon man. Hindsight bias from an outsider if I ever saw it.
Do you know what hindsight bias is? Have you read my posts
over the past 8 years?
I've consistently criticized EVERY Cavaliers coach.
From Mike Brown, to Byron Scott, to Brown again, to Blatt, and yes Lue.
But I've done so fairly.
My problem is that folks seem to want to praise Blatt at Lue's expense.
Just say you're a fan, you like the guy, and you wish him well -- but don't suggest that he was a good coach during his tenure with the Cavaliers... That's bullshit, and it's intellectually dishonest. If it were true, he wouldn't have been fired.
I'm sure he's a "good coach," but that doesn't describe his troubled tenure here.
I respect you, but this is the official story.
As opposed to
what story? What story are you referring to that carries different facts? All these reporters are just lying?! And who is telling the truth?
I know.. let's just make some shit up, and say.. well, my truth is just as valid as theirs... Is that how this works?
If you want to be a mouthpiece for Jason Lloyd be my guest.
Fuck outta here with that... Lloyd, Windhorst (you quoted him), McMenamin, all the douches from NeoMG.. All of them were on the same page.. But me citing actual reporters makes me a "mouthpiece?"
Think about it...
I'm citing media reporters... respectable reporters.. And that makes me, according to you, a fucking "mouthpiece?!"
SMDH
Imma just let that one go bro....
You tell me who are your sources... What am I missing in your picture of the universe that lets you know that Blatt just got the shaft here and he really shouldn't have been fired for fucking up his job?
