2017 Browns Mock Draft Thread

sportscoach said:

If they have a RB and CB ranked the same they will draft the CB plain and simple since that is a position of need while RB isnt. Now if the RB was ranked higher than the CB then they would go with the RB. That is all I said.

Also everyone here agrees that the defense is the biggest need of this team especially the secondary. All the analysts and anyone who knows football knows they need to upgrade their secondary hence why we are mostly mentioned at 12 with a CB. Like let's say Cook and whoever their #1 CB is available, they are drafting that #1 CB since they are ending up like the same value on their charts.

I know every team has a different board, so I am going by they analysts board that I can get ahold of, and it says there will be RBs graded as possible round 2 guys being drafted in the 3rd and 4th rounds since it's a deeper class and there isn't a huge need for RBs. So I am just projecting that if we go with a RB it will be in the fourth round since day three we are going the best player on the board regardless of position and that position will most likely be the best available.

Shoot, some days, some guys on here treat people like they are completely ignorant and pick apart any little thing they say. I am just stating my opinion is all and how I go about looking at things.

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Randolphkeys said:

Oh, if I'm Sassy Brown I call Theilen day one of free agency. I talk to him about #1 receiver money that Minnesota can't afford to give him. I offer him a tremendous amount of guaranteed money in year one, which is how Belichick got Chris Hogan to leave Buffalo as a RFA in 2016. I remind Theilen that in Cleveland, he wouldn't be treated like an afterthought like he was in week 17, only targeted once when he was on the doorstep of a 1,000 yard season.

If I'm Sassy Brown, I make Minnesota pay Theilen like he's the most important weapon on the team.

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AZ_ said:

Sometimes, people don't use logic to formulate coherent opinions and get called on it.

Nature of being on a message board, I suppose.

Plain and simple.

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sportscoach said:

I am not opposed to getting him, but I don't know if we would pay him enough to truly get him away from Minnesota, also are they going to give him a first or second round tender? To me I would like to pick up one more legit WR like him, but risking a high draft pick and a fair amount of cap space, I am not so sure I would like to this season. WR really isnt a true need for us, if we have to spend some of our cap I would rather fill in actual needs rather than spend a fair amount of our money on a WR. Also we would have to try and make him have a front loaded contract as well since that would make it hard for Minnesota to match and be perfect sense for our organization as well. I just don't see us doing that to be sincere, but if we do I have no issues.




I am not sure how saying we will draft a CB before a RB isn't all that logical. So what do other people think, were my posts so illogical that they needed to be picked apart? Be honest people, someone other than AZ let me know so that way I can make my posts more coherent.

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sportscoach said:

I am not sure how saying we will draft a CB before a RB isn't all that logical. So what do other people think, were my posts so illogical that they needed to be picked apart? Be honest people, someone other than AZ let me know so that way I can make my posts more coherent.

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Los216 said:

Are you a sports coach?

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AZ_ said:

Saying it's not a possibility, "plain and simple," is illogical and not based in reality.

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sportscoach said:

Well I can coach soccer, swimming, basketball, baseball and shot and disc for track and field, so if that isn't what would be? lol




But if you actually read what I said, i said it is possible we draft a RB if he is a higher grade than the CB, but it will be extremely unlikely that will happen before the 4th round because the CB and RB will likely be the same grade until then so the CB will come first in that situation. Shoot actually read what I said lol

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sportscoach said:

But if you actually read what I said, i said it is possible we draft a RB if he is a higher grade than the CB, but it will be extremely unlikely that will happen before the 4th round because the CB and RB will likely be the same grade until then so the CB will come first in that situation. Shoot actually read what I said lol

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AZ_ said:

I can argue that this is wrong based on substance as well, but you're in no position to make this call so matter of factly. This may be hard to comprehend, but it's possible you're incorrect on how the Browns view their needs.

Crowell is a restricted free agent, DJ is a role player, both are mediocre at best. If the Browns feel like Cook, Fournette are options at 12, or if they feel that Hunt, Williams, etc are options in the second round, there is zero reasoning to believe they won't hop on one if they like them more than the other guys on the board.

You're projecting value you can't back up.

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AZ_ said:

I can argue that this is wrong based on substance as well, but you're in no position to make this call so matter of factly. This may be hard to comprehend, but it's possible you're incorrect on how the Browns view their needs.

Crowell is a restricted free agent, DJ is a role player, both are mediocre at best. If the Browns feel like Cook, Fournette are options at 12, or if they feel that Hunt, Williams, etc are options in the second round, there is zero reasoning to believe they won't hop on one if they like them more than the other guys on the board.

You're projecting value you can't back up.

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BimboColesHair said:

Not luck...good scouting coupled in with a good WRs coach at developing young guys, albeit who unfortunately just left. Same reason Stefon Diggs doesn't look like a 5th round pick, same reason Jarius Wright has panned out well for a mid round pick, same reason why Thielen became one of the better route runners in the league after going undrafted.

Also, in order to go to the Browns, he first has to talk to the Browns...

Everything from the player, to the Vikings themselves say they want a return. Usually when both parties are on that same page, the player doesn't leave...same kind of deal you guys are having with Pryor right now too, I believe. He wants to be in Cleveland, Cleveland wants him, something will probably get done with him relatively soon.

But again, good luck with that.

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Randolphkeys said:

Look, if a 27 year old late blooming receiver isn't fielding free agency calls from the franchise with 105 million in cap room out of regional loyalty, his agent is in the wrong line of work. If the Vikings coaching staff and scouts are out there just farting excellence as you said, they should focus on getting Laquan Treadwell ready to take over if the Browns severely overpay.

But let's see how it plays out. This entire conversation is a speculative strategy by a fan bored at work, no smoke or fire yet.

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BimboColesHair said:

Not luck...good scouting coupled in with a good WRs coach at developing young guys, albeit who unfortunately just left. Same reason Stefon Diggs doesn't look like a 5th round pick, same reason Jarius Wright has panned out well for a mid round pick, same reason why Thielen became one of the better route runners in the league after going undrafted.

Also, in order to go to the Browns, he first has to talk to the Browns...

Everything from the player, to the Vikings themselves say they want a return. Usually when both parties are on that same page, the player doesn't leave...same kind of deal you guys are having with Pryor right now too, I believe. He wants to be in Cleveland, Cleveland wants him, something will probably get done with him relatively soon.

But again, good luck with that.

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FiveThous said:

To be fair Stefon Diggs should have been a much higher pick than round 5. The guy was a mega producer at a Big 5 conference school when he wasn't injured. He's just another example of the draft proving it's mostly a crap shoot.

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sportscoach said:

I am just stating my opinion like everyone else does right now at this time of the year.

No one knows who the Browns have as the top priority, but I believe that CB is above RB and that's all I was saying was my opinion since we cannot do anything else right now. I mean it's the same as saying this person feels a QB should be our number one pick.

All I said starting out is it is unlikely we draft a RB before the fourth round since people were talking about RBs and I felt that RB is not a need like CB and CB is more likely to be drafted than a RB. I never did say that we wouldn't draft a RB over CB, just said it was unlikely because I feel that CB is one of our top needs.

To back that up, Haden hasn't been healthy, we cut Tramon Williams, so we didn't have any CB in the top 25 rankings and its likely overall our CB rankings was quite bad. I don't trust Haden and the analysts agree with me on that one. We got to upgrade the position and the position is one that is 5 or 6 deep and we have no depth there. When it comes to RB, when our line was healthy through the first few weeks of the season, we had one of the most rushing yards in the league. So when the OLine is healthy we will get production out of the RBs we currently have and they are a good mix. We also have some guys that haven't played much that they are high on. So CB in my mind is the position we need while we don't have a true #1 RB, we don't have to with Jacksons offense. So a CB and RB graded the same we go CB, that's my opinion and I will stand by my opinion.

What else are these boards for if we couldn't state our opinions? Lol I am not saying we won't draft that RB, I just feel it's unlikely is all

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