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Ill put it like this, I think if the Cavs had shopped Kevin Love around, they might have been able to get more than what the Kings got for Cousins. But I'm not sure they could have gotten Cousins with Kevin Love, if that makes sense?
Edit: Maybe Kevin doesn't hold more value. I don't know at this point. That was such a shockingly low price. Cousins is a head case, but Love isn't the healthiest guy in the world.
Then again, how much more does Cousins go for if he doesn't go telling everyone he won't extend for any team who trades for him?
Edit: Maybe Kevin doesn't hold more value. I don't know at this point. That was such a shockingly low price. Cousins is a head case, but Love isn't the healthiest guy in the world.
Then again, how much more does Cousins go for if he doesn't go telling everyone he won't extend for any team who trades for him?
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That same thought had occurred to me...
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I think I could find a way to scratch out a living on $36 mil/year, even if I had to forego a few Lamborghinis...
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My here taking more than 1. I know people underestimate Boogie but my god dudes 2nd best player had been Darren Fucking Collison. GS and every other team had no answer for either one now there together. Both elite defenders and both are shooters now add in a defensive pg in Holiday. They will be stacked
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Agreed but how? Assume we don't want to give up Shump for him alone.
Yeah, why didn't Boston make the Godfather offer of two NJ firsts or one NJ first plus A young piece or expiring..would have been totally worth it for them, what are they waiting for?
I mean, thank god they didn't, but seems crazy
Maybe compared to Mario Chalmers but I hope we can do better...
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I just heard that Cousins was traded to Pelicans. Good he will not play in Celtics, but Sac traded him actually for nothing. Imagine Cousins playing for us.
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I understand Boston not wanting to trade this year's pick with where Brooklyn is likely to end up. I get it. There's a chance you'd get only a year and a half of boogie when, on the flip side, you've got a good shot at getting Ball or Fultz for, at minimum, 7 years.
But there's also a chance Ball or Fultz or whoever else bust. But I understand, NBA rookie contracts are the best bargain in sports, and when you've got what is now almost a guaranteed lock for a top 4 pick in a loaded draft, you trade that only for an absolute surefire stud with years left on his deal. Look back at players who have been dealt, that's the type of pick you save for a guy like prime Chris Paul or prime Shaq.
Boogie is good, but hasn't been good enough to get a team to a .500 record, and he's a hot head, and most importantly, he's got a year left and is telling teams he's not gonna extend this summer.
That said, couldn't Boston have just offered up Marcus Smart, Jae Crowder, and next year's Brooklyn pick and gotten him? Isn't that still better than what Sacramento just got. Like, I understand they wanted a pick from this draft, but this New Orleans pick is probably gonna be a mid-teens pick. Or, worse yet, if all goes horribly wrong for New Orleans and it doesn't work, it goes even more wrong for Sacramento because the pick is top 3 protected.
And this is the real amazing part to me. The Magic got almost just as much from Toronto for half a season of Serge Ibaka as the Kings are getting from New Orleans for season and a half of Cousins. Yea, the Pelicans pick is better (although, again, the odds that it's a lottery pick aren't great, and if it is a lottery pick it's likely to be a low one, or, worse, a top 3 pick and thus stays with New Orleans...so, a lot of outs here for New Orleans), but Ross is unquestionably a better player right now, and projects to be a better player going forward than does Hield. Just incredible.
Then you compare that to what the Thunder got for Ibaka from Orlando...they got MORE than what Sacramento just got. Oladipo projects the best out of all three (Hield and Ross), and he's still on his rookie deal like Hield, AND they got the number 11 pick from the 2016 draft. While I'll admit the New Orleans is probably still better...it's only slightly, and has a decent chance at being worse, even considering the nature of this draft. But while I'm not Oladipo's biggest fan, you'd have to be a flipping idiot to think BUddy Hield is on a path towards being better than Oladipo.
I'm rambling, but this whole thing is just insane. Oklahoma City legitimately got more for Serge Ibaka ON THE LAST YEAR OF HIS DEAL than the Kings just got for a year and a half of DeMarcus Cousins. Boggles the mind.
On the flip side, how were there not better offers? Like, where is Oklahoma City? Why aren't they offering up Oladipo, Sabonis, and their own 2017 first? LIke..what the hell? Am I missing something? Is that not better than the New Orleans offer and still an incredibly small amount to give up?
But there's also a chance Ball or Fultz or whoever else bust. But I understand, NBA rookie contracts are the best bargain in sports, and when you've got what is now almost a guaranteed lock for a top 4 pick in a loaded draft, you trade that only for an absolute surefire stud with years left on his deal. Look back at players who have been dealt, that's the type of pick you save for a guy like prime Chris Paul or prime Shaq.
Boogie is good, but hasn't been good enough to get a team to a .500 record, and he's a hot head, and most importantly, he's got a year left and is telling teams he's not gonna extend this summer.
That said, couldn't Boston have just offered up Marcus Smart, Jae Crowder, and next year's Brooklyn pick and gotten him? Isn't that still better than what Sacramento just got. Like, I understand they wanted a pick from this draft, but this New Orleans pick is probably gonna be a mid-teens pick. Or, worse yet, if all goes horribly wrong for New Orleans and it doesn't work, it goes even more wrong for Sacramento because the pick is top 3 protected.
And this is the real amazing part to me. The Magic got almost just as much from Toronto for half a season of Serge Ibaka as the Kings are getting from New Orleans for season and a half of Cousins. Yea, the Pelicans pick is better (although, again, the odds that it's a lottery pick aren't great, and if it is a lottery pick it's likely to be a low one, or, worse, a top 3 pick and thus stays with New Orleans...so, a lot of outs here for New Orleans), but Ross is unquestionably a better player right now, and projects to be a better player going forward than does Hield. Just incredible.
Then you compare that to what the Thunder got for Ibaka from Orlando...they got MORE than what Sacramento just got. Oladipo projects the best out of all three (Hield and Ross), and he's still on his rookie deal like Hield, AND they got the number 11 pick from the 2016 draft. While I'll admit the New Orleans is probably still better...it's only slightly, and has a decent chance at being worse, even considering the nature of this draft. But while I'm not Oladipo's biggest fan, you'd have to be a flipping idiot to think BUddy Hield is on a path towards being better than Oladipo.
I'm rambling, but this whole thing is just insane. Oklahoma City legitimately got more for Serge Ibaka ON THE LAST YEAR OF HIS DEAL than the Kings just got for a year and a half of DeMarcus Cousins. Boggles the mind.
On the flip side, how were there not better offers? Like, where is Oklahoma City? Why aren't they offering up Oladipo, Sabonis, and their own 2017 first? LIke..what the hell? Am I missing something? Is that not better than the New Orleans offer and still an incredibly small amount to give up?
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Check this out.....Pelicans might be going for the KO.....
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lol now we got people questioning cousins talent and wondering if maybe trading him was right. Fuck outta here with that shit
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