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I was high on Green (ha) when he first came into the league. But since then he's been underwelming as all hell. All I hope for is that being near Lebron sparks something in him. I always viewed him akin to J.J. Hickson, which could work in that regard. Maybe he needs that Lebron throwing him insane passes for him to truly shine a bit. We will see.
 
Lebron being involved is my favorite part about this. It contradicts this narrative by the media that he's unhappy or prepping himself to leave as soon as he can.
The Cavs are a relative lock to win the East. LBJ knows this.
I see a bigger move coming at some point. Patience padawans. Patience.
 
He can rebound and push it up the floor.

He can break a defense in a half court set by putting the ball on the floor off a pass and finish at the rim. Something only Kyrie and LeBron could do.

He's definitely got his flaws but I'm ok with it.

I'm still baffled by the Calderon signing. I wouldn't even want him in his prime.
 
I'm OK with this signing, better than Calderon

but what I can't believe is that Derrick Williams didn't/doesn't have the potential to make at least as big a contribution as Green if he was developed well. Is the situation really that all our players have to be on the wrong side of 30 so that Lue has played with them or coached them before and is willing to give them quality minutes and stick with them through off days?

(Green will be 31 on opening day of this season...glad this is just a one year signing)
 
Jeff Green's 4th team be like:

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But real talk, its a minimum deal and he WILL contribute. That's all I can ask for. He is an upgrade from some of the end of bench guys we had last year. And he's better than Calderon, so theres that.
 
It always comes down to playing with LeBron factor for me. That is mainly why Derrick Williams played so well at times. He played great with LBJ, pretty bad without him. Now Jeff Green might be able to hold his own better without LBJ than Derrick, but how much better could he be with LBJ is the question. LBJ has a way of players realizing their full potential so we will see. For the minimum, it's worth the look. A player that is at a good age with some height and athleticism could be useful for us.

I really loved Derrick's attitude and play style, but it is hard to justify him if he can't get minutes over RJ or be trusted in the Finals. Green has a better chance to be a playoff rotation player. If it doesn't work out, we cut him and try to pick up someone else at the deadline.
 
I think what people who claim there is no downside or risk to signing him to the vet minimum are missing is the opportunity cost. He'll occupy one of the 15 roster spots, and I'd rather have Sefolosha or LMBM -- both of whom have a proven record of playing a contributing role on a good team -- occupying that slot. They do need a combo forward off the bench, since it was clear that they weren't interested in bringing back Derrick Williams (not a fan of his, but would prefer him to Green).

Green has had a mediocre career, and he was historically bad last year. Maybe he can accept a role here, play to his strengths, and at least be mediocre again. I'll be waiting to see what LMBM and Sefolosha get (or Williams for that matter). Wouldn't be surprised to see at least one get the minimum.

I think PJ Tucker may have been the ideal guy for this role, and would have liked to have seen the Cavs trade for him last season instead of Korver, but res-signing him would have added more to the luxury bill than re-signing Korver.
 
kovanovich said:
I think what people who claim there is no downside or risk to signing him to the vet minimum are missing is the opportunity cost. He'll occupy one of the 15 roster spots, and I'd rather have Sefolosha or LMBM -- both of whom have a proven record of playing a contributing role on a good team -- occupying that slot. They do need a combo forward off the bench, since it was clear that they weren't interested in bringing back Derrick Williams (not a fan of his, but would prefer him to Green).

Green has had a mediocre career, and he was historically bad last year. Maybe he can accept a role here, play to his strengths, and at least be mediocre again. I'll be waiting to see what LMBM and Sefolosha get (or Williams for that matter). Wouldn't be surprised to see at least one get the minimum.

I think PJ Tucker may have been the ideal guy for this role, and would have liked to have seen the Cavs trade for him last season instead of Korver, but res-signing him would have added more to the luxury bill than re-signing Korver.
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James Jones once occupied one of 15 spots. Have no beef with Green taking his spot.

PJ Tucker is on record of not wanting to play in Cleveland, he wanted to return his home state, Texas. Harden recruited him as did CP3 which made it easier.

I'm a glass half full kinda guy regarding Green. If he can bring his Boston success to our bench then he's worth the addition by subtraction.

If you lobbied for Derrick to see time, then you should have no problem with Green.
 
Real Deal said:
James Jones once occupied one of 15 spots. Have no beef with Green taking his spot.
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Well, keeping Champ on the roster is another thing, and every year (absolutely no offense to him, by the way) I find myself hoping they can use his slot on an undrafted/developmental player or a less ancient vet.
 
kovanovich said:
think PJ Tucker may have been the ideal guy for this role, and would have liked to have seen the Cavs trade for him last season instead of Korver, but res-signing him would have added more to the luxury bill than re-signing Korver.
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PJ was my add preference for the roster the past two years, but he just signed for 4 years and 32 million. You can't compare signing Jeff Green to a veteran's minimum deal to Tucker, who just commanded Korver money. If Korver was hitting his shots like we know he could in the finals, it isn't even a debate who is more valuable. I'd add that Tucker didn't end up doing much for Toronto in the playoffs. Still can't knock Tucker, but let's put his contract into perspective.
 
People seem to expect more than a role player for the vet minimum, SMH.

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At the minimum, I love this singing.

Green is a legit 6' 7.75". That's the same height as Love and Tristan. And he's really athletic.

We need more athletes. This was a good get.

Now he needs to work on his shooting.
 
6'9" in shoes, good length, runs the floor well, has been known to defend well in the past.

This guy can be another body to throw at KD. For that alone he's worth every dollar.
 
Jeff Green stats
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Jeff-Green-368/

Height without shoes --------> 6' 7.75" (same height as Love and Tristan)
Weight ------------------------> 235 lbs
Wingspan ---------------------> 7' 1.25" (LeBron = 7' 0.25")
Standing reach ----------------> 8' 7.00" (LeBron = 8' 10.25")
Max vertical -------------------> 38"


So, the guy's arms could be a bit longer. Besides that, you're talking about a tall, strong athlete with big hops. Lue's coached him before. He's on a minimum deal.

As Buzzdog said, we need guys to defend Durant and other Warriors' perimeter players.

This guy can help, and he's not 37 like Jefferson is.

I don't know what the deal with Derrick Williams is, but I very seriously doubt we'd have a shot to get him at the minimum.
 
LeShaq said:
Jeff Green stats
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Jeff-Green-368/

Height without shoes --------> 6' 7.75" (same height as Love and Tristan)
Weight ------------------------> 235 lbs
Wingspan ---------------------> 7' 1.25" (LeBron = 7' 0.25")
Standing reach ----------------> 8' 7.00" (LeBron = 8' 10.25")
Max vertical -------------------> 38"


So, the guy's arms could be a bit longer. Besides that, you're talking about a tall, strong athlete with big hops. Lue's coached him before. He's on a minimum deal.

As Buzzdog said, we need guys to defend Durant and other Warriors' perimeter players.

This guy can help, and he's not 37 like Jefferson is.

I don't know what the deal with Derrick Williams is, but I very seriously doubt we'd have a shot to get him at the minimum.
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Green's wingspan is longer than Lebron's yet his standing reach is 3 inches less? 8 ft 7 reach is Gordon Hayward level and Hayward's wingspan is 6ft7-8inches. Love's standing reach is also 8 ft 10 and change like Lebron's. Is it a wide chest or long neck that is causing Green's standing reach to be that low or is that 8 ft 7 inch measurement off?

https://www.google.com/search?q=jeff green&rlz=1C1CHWA_enUS593US593&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjsgaTE4_rUAhVEOD4KHbh4AggQ_AUICygC&biw=1366&bih=662

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoaA5sruiA4
 
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