The Transgender Issue

Huber. said:

Maybe they should first stop tweeting out hate towards the forgotten man. Which is the majority of this site.

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Huber. said:

Maybe they should first stop tweeting out hate towards the forgotten man. Which is the majority of this site.

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All of those groups are "tweeting out hate towards the forgotten man," which, you've just defined as White Males.

That's hilarious... Keep drinking that Alt-Right cool-aid my man.. Way to be on the right side of history.

King Stannis said:

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Totally...

King Stannis said:

I feel like most everything in here could be answered if you folks simply sat down and talked with a trans person.

You might find that they are actually quite human.

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What makes you think none of us have?

There is a difference between showing empathy/kindness when dealing with individuals on a personal level, and deciding matters of policy that involve many more than just that one person.

gourimoko said:

Or a Black person. Or a Latino. Or a refugee. Or anyone who is LGBT. Or had an actual heart-to-heart with a woman you weren't sleeping with and isn't trying to just get you to stop talking.....

Empathy seems lacking among a significant section of the population.

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Feeling empathy should absolutely be encouraged. Creating laws based on the empathy you feel is foolish.

gourimoko said:

All of those groups are "tweeting out hate towards the forgotten man," which, you've just defined as White Males.

That's hilarious... Keep drinking that Alt-Right cool-aid my man.. Way to be on the right side of history.

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Calling someone that's not alt-right, alt-right makes you alt - left. You just played yourself

Huber. said:

Calling someone that's not alt-right, alt-right makes you alt - left. You just played yourself

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Fuck outta here man...

TopGun said:

Feeling empathy should absolutely be encouraged.

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Agreed!

TopGun said:

Creating laws based on the empathy you feel is foolish.

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Just to be clear, are you trying to argue that laws should not have any moral, ethical, or philosophical/ideological basis whatsoever? So for example, a law that intends to help people where there would be no immediate return; i.e., a purely charitable act -- that is out of line?

gourimoko said:

Fuck outta here man...

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I've always been an advocate for everyone getting along and talking things out. The alt-left advocates punching people that wear republican shirts and hats.

The Human Q-Tip said:

What makes you think none of us have?

There is a difference between showing empathy/kindness when dealing with individuals on a personal level, and deciding matters of policy that involve many more than just that one person.

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That is not what commonly occurs in this thread. Policy is being proposed based on personal feelings as well. Indeed, the tenor of discussion is people trying to reconcile emotions they have that they know are irrational when it comes to trans people.

But talking to a trans person, and really talking them is also two different things.

I offer an anecdote: Recently, and I mean within the last two months, a friend who is a young attorney who is a partner in a successful firm he founded, who is married to a beautiful wife, and is winning in my Law School FF League, came out of the blue as transgendered.

I had no idea. He came to my live draft in a dress. I was uncomfortable and shocked but did not show it. After the draft was over we had to address what the fuck just happened. I needed to know why he up-ended his life and ended his marriage.

After an hour of hearing what I had, it now seems so petty to have an issue with a lot of the feelings I had prior to the event even though I had known trans people as acquaintances.

New data, new positions. Do I still have some squeamish feelings about calling my dude friend her? Yes. But I recognize the illogicality of the emotion and the irrationally of my former positions.

Huber. said:

I've always been an advocate for everyone getting along and talking things out. The alt-left advocates punching people that wear republican shirts and hats.

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Yeah.. nah..

gourimoko said:

All of those groups are "tweeting out hate towards the forgotten man," which, you've just defined as White Males.

That's hilarious... Keep drinking that Alt-Right cool-aid my man.. Way to be on the right side of history.

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If you're white you're the "Forgotten Man."

If you're black you are a "Welfare Queen."

I've always been interested in talking to a transgender person. I don't think I've ever met one though.

Everyone calm their dicks and vaginas, we all love each other. Except for those of us who hate others of us.

MediumBaller said:

I've always been interested in talking to a transgender person. I don't think I've ever met one though.

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It's just whatever. Some are cool, some are dickheads. Theyre just people. Not sacred cows