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i wonder if luke walton will get blamed for this failure or if he'll escape criticism because you know what

the reality is even if they were perfectly constructed they'd be heavy underdogs because there's only so much elite talent available in the NBA
 
I understand he said he doesn't want to be the primary ball handler anymore, but I'm not sure LeBron is able to go to this off ball scorer mode. He so motionless without the ball, and he isnt a great screen setter.

I dont see great success coming with this style. Additionally, if this is indeed how he is going to play now, where does Ingram fit? Who the fuck is he gonna defend?

He bough Magic's bullshit. Hope he is ready for it to fail.

I could see the argument for moving Lebron off the ball if you had an actual good creator. Chris Paul could move Lebron off the ball. But the Lakers are entirely constructed of unproven raw young players and best-of-the-scrap-heap older guys like Rondo, Lance, and McGee. Who are we kidding here? Who is going to move Lebron off ball in that crowd? Rondo is the best of them, maybe he can do it if Lebron develops trust in him. Ball does have real skills, he could develop if he gets more mature and disciplined and stops taking like 6 three point shots a game while averaging 30%.

In any case it's all a huge challenge for Lebron. I see the first half of next season for the Lakers being a lot like the first half of 2014-15 was for us. Except more dramatic because in LA. I expect stuff like Lebron trying to instruct Ball in game basics and Ball's father putting Lebron on blast in social media, Rondo moping and competing with Lebron in the passive-aggressive department, questions about whether Walton can handle it as coach, a record that's not much above .500, and a very active trading deadline.
 
I could see the argument for moving Lebron off the ball if you had an actual good creator. Chris Paul could move Lebron off the ball. But the Lakers are entirely constructed of unproven raw young players and best-of-the-scrap-heap older guys like Rondo, Lance, and McGee. Who are we kidding here? Who is going to move Lebron off ball in that crowd? Rondo is the best of them, maybe he can do it if Lebron develops trust in him. Ball does have real skills, he could develop if he gets more mature and disciplined and stops taking like 6 three point shots a game while averaging 30%.

In any case it's all a huge challenge for Lebron. I see the first half of next season for the Lakers being a lot like the first half of 2014-15 was for us. Except more dramatic because in LA. I expect stuff like Lebron trying to instruct Ball in game basics and Ball's father putting Lebron on blast in social media, Rondo moping and competing with Lebron in the passive-aggressive department, questions about whether Walton can handle it as coach, a record that's not much above .500, and a very active trading deadline.

It will definitely be interesting to see how the Lakers young dudes when react when Lebron goes into Dad mode.
 
Maybe I’m crazy...but I think we might get Lakers vs Kings 2.0 in the playoffs. The league and the media have not been shy about wanting Lebron in LA.

We were absolutely hosed by the refs in the finals for years now. Maybe it was all part of the plan to drive Lebron out of here?

The NBA desperately wants the Lakers to be good again...and they’ll do whatever it takes to help Lebron succeed there.

Remember in 2013 when LA were looking like they might miss the post season with their superteam? The last few games by the refs to get them wins were just shameful. I could see them doing the same thing for LAbron.

If I didn’t hate the Warriors and Boston so much I would probably be mad right now...
 
I could see the argument for moving Lebron off the ball if you had an actual good creator. Chris Paul could move Lebron off the ball. But the Lakers are entirely constructed of unproven raw young players and best-of-the-scrap-heap older guys like Rondo, Lance, and McGee. Who are we kidding here? Who is going to move Lebron off ball in that crowd? Rondo is the best of them, maybe he can do it if Lebron develops trust in him. .

Off-ball Rondo is pretty useless. Maybe he'll be running the second unit.

I get the feeling the Lakers will cave and send Ingram and Ball to the Spurs for Kawhi.

I like a lot of the players on the Lakers and would probably root for them if Lakers fans weren't the most annoying, entitled bunch in the NBA. A lot of them are angrier at George for not going there as Cavs fans are for Lebron leaving (seriously, there were Twitter threads about booing Paul as if he owed them something).
 
Listening to the 92.3 the fan "Cavs round table". With Jason Lloyd, Dave McMennin, Joe Vardon

-Apparently Kyrie signed his deal with LeBron having no impact
-Kyrie hated LeBron, didn't talk to him all of the 2017 playoffs
-LeBron and Dan "Had no relationship". They just "existed".
-LeBron has mentioned "He's always wanted to play for the lakers"
-Dan built a team that is capable of winning a championship
-LeBron sold Dan way short, and Dan sold LeBron way short.
-Dan was trying to avoid the "death march" of 2010.
 
"It takes about a decade to recover for a franchise from losing a superstar to be "back""

(cites, Shaq and Magic)

"It makes more sense to tank for two years, get your lottery picks, trade love, and continue to push for it"

I believe Lloyd or Vardon is saying this.
 
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/24003187/lakers-signings-part-magic-plan-nba

this is some really bad spin. Truth is, if a superstar doesn’t come to play with LeBron, they’re screwed. Lance sucks, Rondo sucks, Ball sucks. LeBron will not be deferring to those guys like this article implies. He may let Rondo handle the ball a lot but they aren’t winning with that strategy.

I wonder if the mid to late 20s superstar wants to come to LA to defer to end of career moody LeBron. Kyrie is a weird dude so I’m not going to say he’s the rule. I have a bit of skepticism
 
As much as I was LeBrons biggest fan, I'm not missing all the antics and baggage that comes with LeBron. Not trusting and respecting teammates and coaches.
 


I mean it’s pretty obvious Lebron came back In 2014 because of kyrie.

Kyrie made the Cleveland situation for a million different reasons.

And the Cavs don’t draft kyrie without dan Gilbert taking on some stink nasty clippers contracts in 2011 that eventually turned in to the Kyrie Irving pick.

And we don’t win the title without all 3 guys. And funny enough none of these 3 guys seem to have had much love for one another.
 
And we don’t win the title without all 3 guys. And funny enough none of these 3 guys seem to have had much love for one another.

I'm trying to think of any other way where this could have happened and there's an o'brien trophy lifted without any of those men involved.

And I can't see it. One can argue the 1986-1992 Cavs had a formula, but that's in some alternate universe where Michael Jordan never laced em up.

-Gordon Gund was a wonderful owner, but he did in fact get punked by Carlos Boozer and a few others. He also hired some pretty dreadful GM's and Coaches post Embry, Fratello, and Wilkins

-LeBron James is probably the only "superstar" athlete in the NBA, in his prime that wanted to play for the Cavs. Brad Daughtery, Larry Nance Sr., Mark Price, Ron Harper were different guys in a different time and (sadly) nowhere near the level of a LeBron James.

-Kyrie Irving was...yes, the exact perfect piece that LeBron James had needed for years and years.

It was a perfect combo, yet a very violate combo.
 

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