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2018 Trade Deadline

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Did Pedro or Curt have an expiring contract or were they signed for more than 2 months ? Honest question I dont remember

Pedro in 1997 was definitely an expiring contract. He signed a 7 year, 90M deal with Boston right after, something the Indians probably wouldn’t have been able to pay at that time.

Schilling in 2000 was also under contract for 2001, but he allegedly made it be known he wanted nothing to do with Cleveland because they weren’t guaranteed to make the playoffs (they ended up not making it) which killed the chances at a deal.

http://www.news-herald.com/general-news/20000728/schilling-nixes-tribes-chance

There are some major differences between those two scenarios and this year though.

In 1997 the Indians were 4th in baseball in offense, but just 20th in pitching. Adding a bonafide ace like Martinez would have given that team the one thing they truly lacked which was a dominant front of the rotation pitcher.

Another thing to consider is the fact that the 97 team was only 2.5 games up in the division at the deadline. So in theory every game Pedro pitched down the stretch of that season would have been critical as the Indians made a push to the playoffs.

In 2000, the Indians were 3rd in the majors in offense, but just 18th in pitching.

The Indians were also getting boat raced in the Central that year, 10.5 games back at the deadline. It’s doubtful adding Schilling would have given the Indians a shot at catching Chicago. They did only finish one game out of the Wild Card, so once again each game Schilling would have pitched would have been very important for that year’s playoff push.

The Indians this year are going to cruise to the AL Central title regardless of what they do in the outfield today or in August.

Knowing that they don’t *need* Harper to make the playoffs, you’re really paying for 20 meaningful at bats in the ALDS.

When you look at it through that lens and realize that any production that Harper would give the Indians in August and September is pretty irrelevant, it gives you even more pause about giving up a huge return for a guy that’s only going to give you potentially 20 meaningful ABs.
 
Screw Morosi for saying the Indians are best positioned to land Harper, dude has me all sorts of hyped after that.

Also, Jenson Lewis knows something because I thought he was crazy when he tweeted about Harper last week.
 
Any idea what it would cost to try and keep Harper?
 
Bryce Harper is so fucking overrated in my opinion. Is he a good ballplayer? Sure. But he's now having his second bad year in the past three seasons. He's kind of a cocky douche and he definitely thinks he is way better than he is.

Would I take him for a few months? Sure, but I sure as hell am not giving up anything noteworthy just for the Yankees to offer him the Queens and half of Manhattan this winter.

Guy's swing is looking like swiss cheese this year with all the holes it has in it. There are easily 20-25 outfielders having a better and more impactful season than Bryce Harper this year.
Big name is all that matters to a lot of people for some reason
 
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McKenzie would be be starting point, IMO.

I’d guess they’re more inclined to keep Bieber because of how ready he is now.

No to Bieber, Nolan Jones, Valera, Freeman

Yes to pretty much anyone else.
 
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I don't think Cleveland will trade McKenzie, or Bieber in a deal, but just about anyone else could be moved in a deal for guys depending on what they have. Shoot move Diaz, Chang, Jones etc and if it gets us a premier player and a world series, it is well worth it. I mean Harper would bat 4th or 5th in the lineup, that would make it crazy good!
 
To the people trashing Harper because of his .220 batting average, he's still one of the better hitters in the game. He's having a bad year, but obviously he's a MASSIVE upgrade over what we currently have in CF/RF.

Plus, his bad year up to this point doesn't necessarily mean he will continue to play at the same level. I think his strikeouts will stay high, but we'll see his batting average rise, as his BABIP (.241) has been pretty bad this year compared to his career (.315) and the league average (around .300).

I wouldn't give up McKenzie, Bieber, Nolan... but I'd probably do something around Chang or, preferably, Benson.
 
You would think considering Harper is a half year rental that the price tag wouldn't be massive.. I assume Washington told the Indians that they wanted the house, car, and kids at the jump.. But I assume the Tribe countered with a more realistic package.

I believe they have a offer out to them, honestly. A lot of smoke right now.

Where would Harper hit in this lineup? The actual thought of adding him to this group.. Wow.

You would solve a lot of issues. I honestly think we would be the favorites.
 

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