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What Resolves First?

  • Collin Sexton's Restricted Free Agency

    Votes: 19 38.8%

  • Baker Mayfield's Tenure with the Browns

    Votes: 30 61.2%
  • Total voters
    49
  • Poll closed .
Pjlea28 said:
Hope this is not true.

"George Hill has offered to mentor the teenager, teach him how to play defense. But Sexton has, to this point, rebuffed that. While teammates don't think he's a bad kid and recognize he's trying his best in an extremely tough situation, they are also growing frustrated with Sexton because he doesn't show anger or disappointment following losses."
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1-Who is this quote from?(Hill speaking in third person?lol)
2-How did Sexton react in college when his team lost?
3-Do the vets on the team show anger(not throwing hot soup) and disappointment?
There are a whole lot of issues with the Cavs.
Ah...I see now..Joe Vardon.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/...in-sexton-doesnt-know-how-to-play-per-report/
 
Green Lantern said:
1-Who is this quote from?(Hill speaking in third person?lol)
2-How did Sexton react in college when his team lost?
3-Do the vets on the team show anger(not throwing hot soup) and disappointment?
There are a whole lot of issues with the Cavs.
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Agree with your last line about a WHOLE lot of issues. Team needs to start to correct these problems immediately. JR/Hill/Kover & TT need to be moved....to start with. Was thinking the other day that Frye really has not said too much....wonder if he is questioning his logic to return to the Cavs.
 
avs2000 said:
The vets know how to win is pure bs. Lbj won all of the games. What did the vets do when lbj took a breather ? When lbj missed a game ? And now that lbj is gone ?
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At this point I would be doing everything to get TT and JR away from this team, they are contributing nothing.

My only focus would be the development of Cedi, Sexton, Zizic, Nwaba and Nance.

I hate Clarksons lack of passing but he is the only player we have that can get his own shot. Wouldn't play him with Sexton though. Sam has been ok.

The "vets" are delusional & their skill set fosters bad ball. If leadership is behind or committed to this, it is very disparaging.
 
Pjlea28 said:
Agree with your last line about a WHOLE lot of issues. Team needs to start to correct these problems immediately. JR/Hill/Kover & TT need to be moved....to start with. Was thinking the other day that Frye really has not said too much....wonder if he is questioning his logic to return to the Cavs.
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I think Hill needs to stay unless they bring in another VET PG.
I cannot say what is true or not, but if Sexton is bucking Hill from teaching him, thats not going to make him progress.
 
Green Lantern said:
I think Hill needs to stay unless they bring in another VET PG.
I cannot say what is true or not, but if Sexton is bucking Hill from teaching him, thats not going to make him progress.
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The Fedor article updated to say Hill wanted to help him with his defense.

The problem with Hill and Sexton is they are very different PGs. I think Sexton probably sees Hill as just a roadblock to getting more minutes and being a starter. They are putting up similar points and assists in the same kind of minutes. Hill isn't an attacking PG and has been more of the second ball handler type thru out his career.

I actually think it would be best to move on from Hill and bring in another PG that isn't a threat to Sexton. Like Calderon and RJ would have been great mentors for Sexton and Cedi. I'm not sure what Vet PG we could bring in now to help Sexton.
 
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I just keep telling myself the kid is 19 and we shouldn't finalize opinions on him for atleast another couple years. We're so bad anyway, it's hard to tell what he could do with some talent around him.
 
CavsFan07 said:
I just keep telling myself the kid is 19 and we shouldn't finalize opinions on him for atleast another couple years. We're so bad anyway, it's hard to tell what he could do with some talent around him.
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For me, it's structure and system more than anything which makes it hard to see how good Sexton is. A young PG needs a system/plays and a plan on how to develop him. We have no clue on what type of PG the teams wants Sexton to be. He is basically playing like an attack SG right now and Clarkson might be the player rubbing off on him the most.

We have players that we can surround him with to develop him in probably a multitude of ways. They might not be the most talented but it's better than the talent level that was around Kyrie when he was drafted.
 
You have a conflict between players, this is a situation for a coach, which I don't think we have as yet.
 
https://www.fearthesword.com/2018/11/3/18059386/larry-drew-cavs-bench-changes

At Saturday’s shootaround before the Cavs play the Hornets in Charlotte, Drew says he is considering altering bench lineups to help those units play better. He, however, is not considering changing the starting lineup.

“I’m looking for some certain things, particularly out of that second unit,” Drew said, per cleveland.com. “Just moving forward I want to make sure that I try to put these guys in the best possible position I can and if that means doing some things differently and tweaking some things then we are prepared to do that.”

The change that seems obvious to make is finding a way to play Collin Sexton with players other than Jordan Clarkson. It isn’t clear if that’s one of the changes Drew is considering making — he won’t go into specifics about this changes — but the two just aren’t working as a duo. Sexton would be better served playing in lineups where isn’t paired with another ball-dominant player and gets a chance to do more of what he’ll do as a the Cavs’ point guard when that role is his. Bumping Sexton (or Clarkson, if Drew wanted to get crazy) to the starting is the easiest fix, but apparently not an option right now.

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Sexton's shown some flashes and looked rough at times too. He's 19 and played 9 NBA games. I'm certainly not ready to make any judgments on him now, especially when he's been coached by a brain dead Tyronn Lue, and Larry Drew whose only priority right now is to violate Dan Gilbert's ass on another contract.
 
It is common knowledge in educational psychology that people often regress for a period of time when being faced with challenging new environments or challenging new skillsets.

If you think you can judge Sexton based on what you’ve seen so far, you’re wrong.

Regression is part of improvement. How long will it take for him to adjust and catch up? Will he ever catch up and improve? These are valid questions, but as always, we will not know the answers to these questions for a while.

So the Negative Nancy Posters who want to declare an “I told so [fill in the space with bullshit negativity]” should...yet again...chill the fuck out.
 
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CavsFan07 said:
I just keep telling myself the kid is 19 and we shouldn't finalize opinions on him for atleast another couple years. We're so bad anyway, it's hard to tell what he could do with some talent around him.
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The key to bringing along rookies, IMO, is to have players around him who play smart, play hard and can execute the gameplan/plays/defensive assignments, etc.. It's what they mean when they say "culture" Sexton might end up a good pro, for sure. Right now he has little to no-one to model what that actually means though.

Hill could be that, Korver maybe.. but this team is littered with poor habits. So doubtful.

My bigger worry on Sexton is that he doesn't have one +++ NBA skill set you can point to.
 
weepinwillow said:
The key to bringing along rookies, IMO, is to have players around him who play smart, play hard and can execute the gameplan/plays/defensive assignments, etc.. It's what they mean when they say "culture" Sexton might end up a good pro, for sure. Right now he has little to no-one to model what that actually means though.

Hill could be that, Korver maybe.. but this team is littered with poor habits. So doubtful.

My bigger worry on Sexton is that he doesn't have one +++ NBA skill set you can point to.
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He gets to the free throw line at an elite rate
 
LeeBuckeye said:
He gets to the free throw line at an elite rate
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Lol, okay. Maybe you're extrapolating stats over less than 10 NBA games with limited minutes. Or you're going by what he did in college. Well, this isn't college, and he's playing against bigger guys that aren't all inferior athletes. His only strength right now is his speed. And he can't really use it on offense since he's playing with Clarkson and he can't dribble. All his shots are flat. Has potential to defend other PGs well, but he is so far away from that right now. That being said I'd still much prefer him to be the starter and for Hill to play with Clarkson.
 
inliner311 said:
The Fedor article updated to say Hill wanted to help him with his defense.

The problem with Hill and Sexton is they are very different PGs. I think Sexton probably sees Hill as just a roadblock to getting more minutes and being a starter. They are putting up similar point and assist in the same kind of minutes. Hill isn't an attacking PG and has been more of the second ball handler type thru out his career.

I actually think it would be best to move on from Hill and bring in another PG that isn't threat to Sexton. Like Calderon and RJ would have been great mentors for Sexton and Cedi. I'm not sure what Vet PG we could bring in now to help Sexton.
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Lets see what they do.
However I don't like hearing in the media what was openly said about him.
That doesn't bode well, nor do I agree that will make him play better.

They have to talk to him themselves and even the acting HC or puppet master needs to work with him.
 
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