Steve_424
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I wonder if it's more about shifting position players and keeping the SPs.
I would hope not. The team needs a fresh look, as last years group wasn't much fun to watch.I wonder if it's more about shifting position players and keeping the SPs.
I think they have to makes some trades in order to change up the roster. Going into next season as we are with only minor tweaks is doing a disservice to the team. With the right trades we can really strengthen the team for now and the future. I’m not happy having to trade away a Kluber but it may be the only way to keep this window open for a whileI’m starting to get the sense that the Tribe isn’t going to make any major trades this winter, which means there wouldn’t be any significant upgrades to the outfield or bullpen. They may be more likely to make a deal where they exchange a bad contract for another bad contract that is a better fit for the roster.
I think they have to makes some trades in order to change up the roster. Going into next season as we are with only minor tweaks is doing a disservice to the team. With the right trades we can really strengthen the team for now and the future. I’m not happy having to trade away a Kluber but it may be the only way to keep this window open for a while
What would make you believe that? Harper and machado haven't even signed yet. Just because there won't be a trade at the winter meetings, doesn't mean there won't be one later on down the line. A lot of teams still need/want good pitchers.I agree that minor tweaks won’t be sufficient in closing the gap with the other AL playoff teams, but I think at this point they won’t get the return they’re seeking for Kluber or Bauer.
If they trade Kluber, based on recent history, we won’t get sufficient return. In the Lee trade we got Cookie. Great pitcher but not a Cy Young winner. In Sabathia we got Brantley, an all star, but not the best at his position. I’m gonna be really pissed when they attach Kipnis/Alonso/Edwin as a salary saving move with Kluber/Bauer and not get the best return.What would make you believe that? Harper and machado haven't even signed yet. Just because there won't be a trade at the winter meetings, doesn't mean there won't be one later on down the line. A lot of teams still need/want good pitchers.
What in the fuck?If they trade Kluber, based on recent history, we won’t get sufficient return. In the Lee trade we got Cookie. Great pitcher but not a Cy Young winner. In Sabathia we got Brantley, an all star, but not the best at his position. I’m gonna be really pissed when they attach Kipnis/Alonso/Edwin as a salary saving move with Kluber/Bauer and not get the best return.
1051 games from Michael Brantley wasn't sufficient return for 3 months worth of CC?
Carrasco ranks 7th in WAR among starting pitchers since the 2014 season. Only guys who are above him are Kluber, Kershaw, Scherzer, Sale, deGrom, and Verlander. Since Cy Youngs are so important, there is a collective 9 Cy Youngs among those 6 pitchers and the only guy without one is Sale.
Legitimately one of the worst arguments I have ever seen on this site.
If they trade Kluber, based on recent history, we won’t get sufficient return. In the Lee trade we got Cookie. Great pitcher but not a Cy Young winner. In Sabathia we got Brantley, an all star, but not the best at his position. I’m gonna be really pissed when they attach Kipnis/Alonso/Edwin as a salary saving move with Kluber/Bauer and not get the best return.
If they trade Kluber, based on recent history, we won’t get sufficient return. In the Lee trade we got Cookie. Great pitcher but not a Cy Young winner. In Sabathia we got Brantley, an all star, but not the best at his position. I’m gonna be really pissed when they attach Kipnis/Alonso/Edwin as a salary saving move with Kluber/Bauer and not get the best return.
If you're expecting a return of a Cy Young winner (Carrasco being a Cy Young type pitcher even though he's never "won" the award aside) and/or a guy who ends up being the best player at his position, you're going to be disappointed in damn near every single trade.