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This is crazy, but I want Iverson.

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But why is Iverson just not as good as advertised?


Iverson is strictly an offensive player.

Although he does get a lot of steals, Iverson is a poor individual defender who gets beat way too much. One reason is due to the fact that he is undersized and often guards players that are bigger than him.

Another reason is because he goes for steals way too often leaving his teammates behind him in vulnerable positions. And Lastly, he just doesn't play with the same effort and intensity he does at the other end.



He shoots a poor Field Goal Percentage


He has a dreadful career FGP of .425 and a career playoff FGP of .401. For all of the incredible shots he makes, how many more difficult shots does he miss? For how many great shooting nights Iverson does has, how many bad ones does he have as well?

The main reason for his poor shooting percentage directly relates to his poor shot selection and the fact that he is a streaky shooter. Many of Iverson's shots aren't typical shots that most players normally take.

Whether he is driving into the lane for a difficult lay up or is taking a step back three pointer with someone right up in his face, there is no doubt that his shot selection is poor sometimes.

Iverson especially takes too many three-pointers. He has a career average of 3.9 three point attempts per game with a career 31.4 three point percentage, while a great three-point shooter like Reggie Miller, averaged slightly more attempts with 4.7 per game.

Although most superstars have an occasional off day, Iverson more consistently can be off on any given day. When Iverson is having an off day, he will continue taking difficult shots no matter what and will just make his FGP worse.

On the other hand, when most other superstars are having bad shooting nights, they usually stop attempting as many difficult shots and do other things to help their team win.

For how many games Iverson has won from shooting, how many has he also lost from shooting?



He is a very unorthodox player

Iverson can be hard to fit into a system. Is he shooting guard or is he a point guard? He is an undersized shooting guard, but too much of a shoot first player to be a point guard. I'm not really sure what he is half the time.

As I mentioned earlier, Iverson throughout his career has constantly taken shots that are ill advised. This can hurt the flow of his team's offense and make it difficult for his teammates to get in rhythm with him doing his own thing.

Not only is it it difficult for Iverson's teammates to know what he is going to do, watching him take four guys on all the time can't be fun for them either. I could see how being his teammate could be frustrating sometimes.

Frankly, Iverson just doesn't really make his teammates better. Even at this stage in Iverson career, where he is more of a team player, he still doesn't make his teammates better.

There is no doubt that there were certain years when he was playing for the 'Sixers, that his team's best offensive scheme was probably to let him do almost everything offensively because of the lack of talent on his teams.

He was single handily responsibly for taking the Sixers to the playoffs multiple times and the NBA finals in 2001 and not many players in NBA history could have taken those teams to the playoffs or taken that team to the NBA Finals.

The problem is that Iverson is a catch-22 type of player. Iverson is at his best when his team revolves around him. However, a team revolving around Iverson isn't going to win a championship.

Even the year he went to the NBA Finals, he had virtually no chance of beating the Lakers. When Iverson is actually playing for a team that has a lot of talent like the Nuggets or Pistons and the team doesn't just revolve around him, he isn't as effective of a player.

Iverson is a unique talent and is one of the most fun players to watch. However, because of how exciting and unique he is, he draws a lot of attention and has thus has become an overrated player.

Many of Iverson's fans said that if he was put on a team with a lot of talent, he could win a title. Well, what are his fans going to say now?

http://community.foxsports.com/akhoring/blog/2009/02/21/Allen_Iverson_is_One_of_The_Most_Overrated_Players_of_All_Time
 
I don't post on here often but I do read it a lot, but when I saw this thread and I read that this guy wants Iverson for the BAE and claiming he would be a steal is so hysterical I had to make an actual post. Allen Iverson is a bad chemistry guy, you are probably the type of fan who actually believe Iverson was hurt and thats why he wasn't playing for the Pistons. There is a reason the Pistons asked him not to play. Iverson is possibly the worst team player in all of the NBA....Iverson teamed up with Melo=disaster, didn't work.

Did you even see the results between the Nuggets and the Pistons? If the Pistons were not retarded and they kept Billups they would have won a hell of a lot more games...Also.....ahhh screw it there is no point, im going to go back to cracking up at this stuff....HAHAHA IVERSON...GTFO
 
Re: This is crazy, but..............

He's be a steal for the BAE, we need someone, and he wants a ring as bad as anyone else

wtf are you talking about? What the hell makes you think he wants a ring more than anyone. If anything, he wants it less.
He wants to go to Memphis.
0% chance of signing him at the BAE, OR MLE, and he'd be a terrible fit.
 
What about Allen Iverson, I'm so desparate right now, I need someone.

Just offer the BAE, and maybe he'll buy it.

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Yeah, its crazy. Iverson is a cancer. A very negative selfish player.
Screw this idea.:thumbdown
 
I don't post on here often but I do read it a lot, but when I saw this thread and I read that this guy wants Iverson for the BAE and claiming he would be a steal is so hysterical I had to make an actual post. Allen Iverson is a bad chemistry guy, you are probably the type of fan who actually believe Iverson was hurt and thats why he wasn't playing for the Pistons. There is a reason the Pistons asked him not to play. Iverson is possibly the worst team player in all of the NBA....Iverson teamed up with Melo=disaster, didn't work.

Did you even see the results between the Nuggets and the Pistons? If the Pistons were not retarded and they kept Billups they would have won a hell of a lot more games...Also.....ahhh screw it there is no point, im going to go back to cracking up at this stuff....HAHAHA IVERSON...GTFO

The pistons didn't ask him to play because Rip was unhappy coming off the bench, and frankly they weren't going anywhere anyway. Iverson didn't cause any problems in the locker room in Detroit. Go find me an article stating that Iverson was ever a problem there. You can't, because he wasn't. The Pistons doomed themselves by trading Billups for him in the first place, and Iverson simply became everyone's scapegoat. If you could get an 18/5 player for the B.A.E (roughly 2 million a year), yeah, I would call that a steal.
 
Yeah, its crazy. Iverson is a cancer. A very negative selfish player.
Screw this idea.:thumbdown

Is there anyone that can exlain to me how he is a cancer? Please tell me something that is worse than punching a fan in the face. Because everyone here wanted to have Artest on board.
 
Re: This is crazy, but..............

wtf are you talking about? What the hell makes you think he wants a ring more than anyone. If anything, he wants it less.
He wants to go to Memphis.
0% chance of signing him at the BAE, OR MLE, and he'd be a terrible fit.

He wants to go to Memphis, does NOT mean Memphis wants him. And I said he wants it AS bad AS anyone else. Not more, he has a good chance to sign for the BAE on a contender like us.
 
I can't believe people have spent 17 pages trying to justify signing a guy like Iverson, after you literally watched him downgrade a team like Detroit not even a year ago.

17 pages of this?

:thumbdown
 
I can't believe people have spent 17 pages trying to justify signing a guy like Iverson, after you literally watched him downgrade a team like Detroit not even a year ago.

17 pages of this?

:thumbdown

Why do people like you even bother to come and post here? You say that we are wasting our time, etc., etc. and you come in here and post. There was no point to you posting that whatsoever. It was obvious when you posted you had not read a single page of the thread. :rolleyes:
 
Do you really need to read it?

He instantly killed any chances for Detroit last season, and is no longer a premier player in this league.

But we should sign him because you're desperate for some action?

As hard as it is to believe because he was once a great player...but players who provide ZERO defense and refuse to play in a team offensive scheme don't often translate to a team trying to get over the hump to a championship.
 
Do you really need to read it?

He instantly killed any chances for Detroit last season, and is no longer a premier player in this league.

But we should sign him because you're desperate for some action?

As hard as it is to believe because he was once a great player...but players who provide ZERO defense and refuse to play in a team offensive scheme don't often translate to a team trying to get over the hump to a championship.

You are a hipocrit, you were just complaining about how there is 17 pages of us arguing over AI, now you want to jump into the fire?

:gtfo:
 
You are a hipocrit, you were just complaining about how there is 17 pages of us arguing over AI, now you want to jump into the fire?

:gtfo:

Which in no way refutes AI being a horrible fit.
 
Do you really need to read it?

He instantly killed any chances for Detroit last season, and is no longer a premier player in this league.

But we should sign him because you're desperate for some action?

As hard as it is to believe because he was once a great player...but players who provide ZERO defense and refuse to play in a team offensive scheme don't often translate to a team trying to get over the hump to a championship.

He was an all-star last year.

I'm not desparate for some action, I do believe he would be a good option for us now though.

He gets steals, that is some defense. And when has he ever refused to play an offensive scheme? Funny because we don't even have an offensive scheme ourselves.
 

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