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Gerald Wallace Hoopshype Rumor (pg 4.) - no truth per Windy tweet

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Re: Gerald Wallace Hoopshype Rumor (pg 4.)

I've always liked Wallace's game because you always know he's going to give you 110% on the floor (Which mike brown would love). I just don't know who we would trade for him and what the bobcats really want in return. It would really help lebron though to have another guy who is more than capable of driving to the basket and taking some of the bumps and bruises lebron usually would have taken. The guy has talent. And regarding his shot, maybe he can hook up with lebron and chris jent since they've been having success in improving lebron's shot
 
Re: Gerald Wallace Hoopshype Rumor (pg 4.)

Smooth said:
I'm also not ready to give up on a potential future piece in JJ Hickson.. I think there's a reason that pretty much every GM kept asking about Hickson and whenever we've been in trade talks, Hickson's name has been included..

Giving up on Hickson would be the classic case on giving up on a guy way too soon... Hickson was taken in the 1st round under the assumption that it would take a few years for him to develop and get molded into a player that could contribute... Now all of a sudden everybody forgets that, wants to trade him and doesn't care about that any more... WTF?

I understand the need to get better right now but I'd be much more comfortable with getting a guy like Linas Kleiza or Matt Barnes, who are comparable players to Wallace considering the price and injuries, and not giving up on Hickson..

I want to see what Hickson turns out to be... I want to at least give him a chance over the next few years to see what he can do before we completely give up on him... It's only been one freakin' year since we acquired him... Not a whole lot of rookies picked at #19 contribute on a championship contending team, let alone 19 year olds..

If Hickson were a guard or a wing then I wouldn't have as big of a problem, but finding skilled, athletic, potential filled bigs is not very easy to find..

I also understand Hickson's back is an issue but W&G mentioned that it's not the type of injury that will become a constant issue or something that will flare up again.. .It's a one time thing that isn't too worry about in the future..
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I like his game and all, but there's a Hickson in nearly every good draft, 6"9 athletic but raw PFs are a dime a dozen, let's not overrate what he is. If he were 6"11 or 7"0 then I'd say hold off on trading him, but I really don't see him having as much potential as everyone seems to think. I said it before, he's not even the 4th best big from last years rookie crop, Gasol, Lopez, McGee and Speights all have more potential, hell DeAndre Jordan might have more as well.

Wallace is a proven player, Hickson is not, I'd give Hickson up in a second for Wallace.
 
Re: Gerald Wallace Hoopshype Rumor (pg 4.)

ReAL DeAL said:
On the Cavs Wallace would be great in a Posey/Pietrus type of role and a legitimate LeBron back up. We never had one of those.
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You said that twice in the thread, we get what you see in him..

But his inability to hit a shot basically doesn't make him a Posey/Pietrus type player in any way.. Both guys were assets because of their ability to stretch the defense and their ability to hit big shots... Wallace doesn't stretch the defense in any way..

Defensively I get where you're going but a big part of that type of player is their ability to stretch the floor which isn't something that Wallace does..

Let's not forget that we have 3 players that aren't good shooters: LeBron, Andy and Shaq...
 
Re: Gerald Wallace Hoopshype Rumor (pg 4.)

I think this is worth considering because Gerald Wallace is a positive impact player, but it's hard to work around how he'd fit especially since he really does deserve to start. It looks like he's best guarding SF's, but are we willing to push LeBron over to PF to start games? I doubt it.

We could start him at SG and push Delonte to the bench, but then we lose Delonte's playmaking and shooting and I'm not so sure Wallace can defend SG's nearly as well.

We can't start him at PF because of his concussion history - and that alone is a big risk in picking up his contract. Heck, Shaq could clobber him with an inadvertent elbow in practice and his career could be over before he played a game.

He's very much like Marion in terms of how he could be used, but the big difference is that Marion can be used at PF and Wallace shouldn't.

It'd be easiest to work him in off the bench, but it's hard to believe he'd be happy with that.
 
Re: Gerald Wallace Hoopshype Rumor (pg 4.)

maomaopukspuks said:
I think wallace should start if we could possibly get him. This will make boobie dispensable if this happens and will make a more defined role with Delonte as our back up pg together with parker as our bench back court. WE will have insane depth if this could happen. If parker will be through a sign and trade it will be more lovely since we still have our full MLE and BAE to spend. I love this if this would happen. Just look at our depth:

PG: MO/Delonte
SG: WAllace/Parker
SF: LeGOD/wallace/Kleiza?/green
PF: AV/Darnell/Frye?/Kleiza?
C: Shaq/ Z

The only problem with that starting five is that Mo is the only one who can hit jump shots consistently.LOL
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So you start Parker at the 2, and Wallace at the 4, and let Wallace and LBJ decide between themselves who they want to guard.
 
Re: Gerald Wallace Hoopshype Rumor (pg 4.)

Naw; I have to believe it's just another rumor without any truth in it whatsoever. I don't see what need we have that wallace could fill at this point. Yeah, I always liked him, but not on this current Cavs team with the additions of Shaq and Parker, and probably one other before it's done with.
 
Re: Gerald Wallace Hoopshype Rumor (pg 4.)

G-force has always been pretty high on my list, but with the Shaq and Parker additions, the drop in cap, the size of his contract and questionable durability, he has fallen pretty low for me. If we are going spend that much of our assets, I would like it to be something that fit better like Odom, Capt Jack or even Murphy. Otherwise I like the cheaper route of Frye or Kleiza.
 
Re: Gerald Wallace Hoopshype Rumor (pg 4.)

abuC said:
I like his game and all, but there's a Hickson in nearly every good draft,
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Really? I don't know too many uber-athletic, young, guys that have as developed of a post game as he did coming out of college...

But since that's the case, go back until 2000 and find me a comparable prospect to Hickson (youth, offensive game, athletic ability, good character) in the 1st round, past the 19th pick...

Good luck..

abuC said:
6"9 athletic but raw PFs are a dime a dozen, let's not overrate what he is.
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Sure they are but that's not what Hickson is... Your forget to mention that he was billed as one of the most advanced low-post scorers in the draft... So are those guys a dime-a-dozen?

I'm not overrating him, I'm saying what he is and what he was billed as coming out of college..

Here's another question: how do we truly know what he is, when it's only been 1 year in what was expected to be a 2-3 year project?

abuC said:
I said it before, he's not even the 4th best big from last years rookie crop, Gasol, Lopez, McGee and Speights all have more potential, hell DeAndre Jordan might have more as well.
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Well considering all 4 of those big men being picked ahead of him, I'd expect them to be better their first year and based on where they're picked, they're supposed to be better..

But you also don't factor in the fact that Gasol, Lopez, and Speights were also all more NBA ready players... Not to mention, all 4 of those bigs were given consistent minutes on a regular basis, something JJ never got..

abuC said:
Wallace is a proven player, Hickson is not, I'd give Hickson up in a second for Wallace.
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Hickson wasn't supposed to be a proven player by now... Anyone who expected him to be, then I'd like to get whatever your smoking...

I get Wallace is a proven player but just because he's a proven player does that mean he's the better player... He's a proven player but that still makes him a bad fit on this team with what pieces we have in place..
 
Re: Gerald Wallace Hoopshype Rumor (pg 4.)

Smooth said:
You said that twice in the thread, we get what you see in him..

But his inability to hit a shot basically doesn't make him a Posey/Pietrus type player in any way.. Both guys were assets because of their ability to stretch the defense and their ability to hit big shots... Wallace doesn't stretch the defense in any way..

Defensively I get where you're going but a big part of that type of player is their ability to stretch the floor which isn't something that Wallace does..

Let's not forget that we have 3 players that aren't good shooters: LeBron, Andy and Shaq...
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Shaq is not gonna shoot nothing but a FT. Wallace has a decent mid range game, he's streaky from 3 kinda reminds me of Laura Hughes.

Wallace also allows us to play small ball efectively. Great backup for LeBron. Wallace, Parker/West, Z would be a great 1-8 and it would turn eyes on us of being up there right on LA's ass.

If we had G-Force against the Magic we woulda never lost thats how good his defense is but remember we werent even hitting our 3's and we were still in the game.


But im not gonna get my hopes for this. I wouldnt mind us signing Frye and calling it an off-season.
 
Re: Gerald Wallace Hoopshype Rumor (pg 4.)

Since this is basically a salary dump for the Bobcats, I wouldn't be so quik to give up JJ. Although I think he would be a great addition, certainly depth wise, with the signing of Parker the Cavs are not desparate for wing player like G-Force. Allace for wally in S&T, in a hearbeat. If we could find a similarly talented PF that we get in S&T for Wally that would however be my first choice. I just don't know who might realistically be available.
 
Re: Gerald Wallace Hoopshype Rumor (pg 4.)

Is this rumor legit?
 
Re: Gerald Wallace Hoopshype Rumor (pg 4.)

You have got to take into consideration that G-Force is one possesion, one play, one fall away from his career being over. All of the concussions have severely hurt him over the years and it is a huge risk.

I don't know about it taking that into consideration, this is a huge risk if we actually think about doing it.
 
Re: Gerald Wallace Hoopshype Rumor (pg 4.)

For what we'd be trading, Wallace would be good move. I'd rather move a future 1st and/or one of our other guys, but if we essentially turn Wally into Wallace, I'll be happy.
 
Re: Gerald Wallace Hoopshype Rumor (pg 4.)

Sorry if this has already been brought up, but what about moving LeBron to the 4 and putting Wallace at the 3.

PG - Mo/Boobie
SG - Parker/Delonte (I just like the idea of Delonte coming off the bench, so I dont know if this is realisitc)
SF - Wallace/Lebron
PF - LeBron//Andy
C - Shaq/Z
 
Re: Gerald Wallace Hoopshype Rumor (pg 4.)

Truly isn't every player one play from their career being over???

Sorry, first time poster long time viewer...
 
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