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Since there's already a 2014 draft thread, I thought it only reasonable to make a 2014 Free Agency thread.


There are a couple of scenario's we can look at based on what could happen this year and how that would effect our FA plans in 2014:

#1) Bynum and AV stay healthy and play up to All-Star form in 25-30 min a game in 60+ games. Irving takes the next step as a player and starts 70+ games. Waiters and Thompson progress from what they showed last season. Bennett proves to be #1 worthy and a legit stretch 4 with minutes mixed in at the 3. Karasev shows promise in limited minutes. Jack is his usual self. Brown teaches this team to play defense. This is obviously the best case scenario, but if that were to all play out the Cavs would likely find themselves seeded 4-6 in the East. If this played out, the only major move they would need is to pick up a competent piece at SF. As the Cavs currently sit, they can be at about $53 mill by getting rid of Gee and Clark's non-guaranteed contracts. If the projected cap number of $62 mill is anywhere near accurate, they'd have almost $9 mill to throw at an SF. Some guys that would be in that pay range and a great fit:

Luol Deng: If we could fit Deng under the cap with a team that featured a lineup of Irving, Waiters, Thompson, and a healthy Bynum, along with Jack, Karasev, Bennett, AV, and Zeller off the bench, that would be a squad to be reckoned with. Though Deng didn't have a good year shooting the ball last season, he shot above 34% from the 3-point line the three years prior. He could add some much needed perimeter defense, as well as more playoff experience and a little ability to stretch the floor.

Danny Granger: Obviously this hinges on him being healthy this season, but he'd be a good fit offensively and defensively. I wouldn't want to give him an extremely long deal or anything like that, but something like three years, $24 mill wouldn't be too bad. Once again, this is assuming he's healthy.

Gordon Hayward, RFA: Would really address the need for shooting on the perimeter. I'm guessing he signs an extension before he hits free agency

Chandler Parsons, RFA: Another guy that Houston will probably try to re-sign before the end of the year as they can't afford to lose him in free agency. Would be a great fit in the starting lineup.

Assuming the projected cap number was correct, they could also waive AV and clear another $9 mill giving them enough room to sign a max player. However, I think it'd be rather difficult to waive a healthy Anderson hoping you could sign a max guy.

Scenario #2
Same as before, only Bynum isn't able to bounce back from those injuries. In that case, we'd have about $21 mill to play with after waiving Bynum, Gee, and Clark. That gives us the option to pursue a max big plus a solid SF or a max SF and a solid big.

Max players potentially available next year that would fit extremely well:

Greg Monroe, RFA: This is the one that intrigues me the most. With the signing of Josh Smith, I believe Detroit threw their chances out the window of retaining Monroe and Drummond along with Knight. I don't believe that Detroit would match a max-deal on Monroe as that could really inhibit their ability to re-sign Drummond and/or Knight. I think Monroe is worth that type of money, and he would be an excellent fit with Bennett, AV, and Thompson as he can play PF or C and is versatile on offense.

Paul George, RFA: probably gets extension before hitting RFA or Indy is matching any contract offered. Either way, we'd obviously offer this guy a max deal in the slim chance Indiana doesn't match.

LeBron - duh
Melo - Semi-duh

I'll probably fill this in more as we progress through the off-season, but I just thought I'd get the topic started. What are you're thoughts?
 
Hayward would almost be a perfect fit on this team. Not sure he gets out of Utah though.
 
Deng would be great. Very good chance he doesn't return to Chicago, but will we be able to outbid other teams as well...?
 
Deng would be perfect. He's a lockdown defender, and a 3 ball shooting, he's not 3 and D, he's 3 and DDDDDDDDDDDDDD








luol deng is good at defense in the game of basketball
 
Since there's already a 2014 draft thread, I thought it only reasonable to make a 2014 Free Agency thread.


There are a couple of scenario's we can look at based on what could happen this year and how that would effect our FA plans in 2014:

#1) Bynum and AV stay healthy and play up to All-Star form in 25-30 min a game in 60+ games. Irving takes the next step as a player and starts 70+ games. Waiters and Thompson progress from what they showed last season. Bennett proves to be #1 worthy and a legit stretch 4 with minutes mixed in at the 3. Karasev shows promise in limited minutes. Jack is his usual self. Brown teaches this team to play defense. This is obviously the best case scenario, but if that were to all play out the Cavs would likely find themselves seeded 4-6 in the East. If this played out, the only major move they would need is to pick up a competent piece at SF. As the Cavs currently sit, they can be at about $53 mill by getting rid of Gee and Clark's non-guaranteed contracts. If the projected cap number of $62 mill is anywhere near accurate, they'd have almost $9 mill to throw at an SF. Some guys that would be in that pay range and a great fit:

Luol Deng: If we could fit Deng under the cap with a team that featured a lineup of Irving, Waiters, Thompson, and a healthy Bynum, along with Jack, Karasev, Bennett, AV, and Zeller off the bench, that would be a squad to be reckoned with. Though Deng didn't have a good year shooting the ball last season, he shot above 34% from the 3-point line the three years prior. He could add some much needed perimeter defense, as well as more playoff experience and a little ability to stretch the floor.

Danny Granger: Obviously this hinges on him being healthy this season, but he'd be a good fit offensively and defensively. I wouldn't want to give him an extremely long deal or anything like that, but something like three years, $24 mill wouldn't be too bad. Once again, this is assuming he's healthy.

Gordon Hayward, RFA: Would really address the need for shooting on the perimeter. I'm guessing he signs an extension before he hits free agency

Chandler Parsons, RFA: Another guy that Houston will probably try to re-sign before the end of the year as they can't afford to lose him in free agency. Would be a great fit in the starting lineup.

Assuming the projected cap number was correct, they could also waive AV and clear another $9 mill giving them enough room to sign a max player. However, I think it'd be rather difficult to waive a healthy Anderson hoping you could sign a max guy.

Scenario #2
Same as before, only Bynum isn't able to bounce back from those injuries. In that case, we'd have about $21 mill to play with after waiving Bynum, Gee, and Clark. That gives us the option to pursue a max big plus a solid SF or a max SF and a solid big.

Max players potentially available next year that would fit extremely well:

Greg Monroe, RFA: This is the one that intrigues me the most. With the signing of Josh Smith, I believe Detroit threw their chances out the window of retaining Monroe and Drummond along with Knight. I don't believe that Detroit would match a max-deal on Monroe as that could really inhibit their ability to re-sign Drummond and/or Knight. I think Monroe is worth that type of money, and he would be an excellent fit with Bennett, AV, and Thompson as he can play PF or C and is versatile on offense.

Paul George, RFA: probably gets extension before hitting RFA or Indy is matching any contract offered. Either way, we'd obviously offer this guy a max deal in the slim chance Indiana doesn't match.

LeBron - duh
Melo - Semi-duh

I'll probably fill this in more as we progress through the off-season, but I just thought I'd get the topic started. What are you're thoughts?

Another option is to S&T for LeBron. If LeBron wants on this team, that could be an option for us.

I also wouldn't mind going for Monroe for a max contract. He's a high-IQ basketball player with a decent offensive game and can rebound well.
 
Obviously Lebron is our first option, but after him I want Chandler Parsons. I'd really be happy going after any of these guys.

Parsons is honestly one of my favorite non-elite players in the NBA. I think he is exactly what this team needs and wants.

We were looking for a guy like him when we went after Omri, and now we drafted Sergey who we hope will become a player like him.

If Sergey isn't having the best year, or looks like he will need more time playing SG, I say we give a hefty sum to Parsons even if we have to overpay a little.
 
Throw me in the Deng bandwagon; but last I read CHI was working on an extension with him.
 
They're not going to sign a major FA other than LeBron. It'll be a trade if he stays put.
 
Clearly something good is happening in that shite-hole called "The Pistons" I guess.

Greg Monroe is a near-max player?

Where have I been?
 
Clearly something good is happening in that shite-hole called "The Pistons" I guess.

Greg Monroe is a near-max player?

Where have I been?

Under a rock, perhaps? Would you name me the bigs 27 and under (age does play a factor) that you'd want other than Monroe. When I actually looked at it, these are really the only guys I'd take over Monroe:

A Davis
Love
Hibbert
Horford (maybe)

That's pretty much it. You could make some arguments for Favors, Griffin, Drummond, and maybe others, but a 6'11" 250+ pounder who is skilled offensively, rebounds well, and just turned 23 this summer will absolutely get several near-max or max offers if he becomes a free agent. In just his second year, he put up a PER of 22.09, which was the 15th highest in the league.

Talented, young big men always have and always will get major deals in this league. Monroe is a highly skilled big who I believe has only scratched the surface or his ability. He'd be a great fit on this team because he could play with any of our bigs with no problem. He also is a very good passing big man which is always a major bonus at the position.

Anyway, pretty sure Detroit will likely match and then wind up trading Knight. They'd be really dumb to let the Drummond/Monroe duo break up that soon.
 
We're not getting George, Hayward, or Parsons, so I really do not know why they're even listed as options.
 
Steve Kyler, Hoopsworld:

Is 2014 All It’s Cracked Up To Be?:

There has been a lot of talk about the depth and value of the projected 2014 NBA Draft class, which could be one of the deepest drafts in recent history in terms of a star caliber players.


LeBron_Carmelo_Inside_AllStar_USAT_1.jpg
There are also a few teams looking at the 2014 NBA Free Agent Class in much the same way.

The problem with the 2014 Free agent class is that there is a sense that players like Miami’s LeBron James and New York’s Carmelo Anthony are going to opt-out of their deals and become obtainable players.


That’s just not as likely as some would have you believe.


Now admittedly James and Anthony do have the options to hit free agency, but they both also have options in 2015 too. Anthony’s contract expires in 2015, while James has a player option.


A number of teams want to be in a position to lure one or both away from their existing situations, but is either player truly unhappy with where they are, enough to believe they are picking up and bolting?


On the James front, the prevailing thought is that he is committed to Miami as long as Dwyane Wade is. Given that both are coming off a second championship in three years together, running into free agency only happens if Wade retires, which is highly unlikely, or if the wheels fall off in Miami so badly that there is no future. Neither seems likely this year, in fact Miami is still considered by most to be the front runner in the East. Getting knocked off early in the playoffs or a catastrophic injury might change the tune, but most people around the situation in Miami see James as being on the roster in Miami in 2014, it’s 2015 that becomes worrisome, mainly because of Wade’s precarious future due to injury concerns.


On the Anthony front, there is a chance he looks at greener pastures in 2014, but sources close to the process say the Knicks have already let Anthony know that their books will be basically clear in 2015 and he can pick his teammates much as Wade did in Miami.


With the New York market behind him and the almost unlimited checkbook of the Knicks, Anthony will have a lot of options in 2015 and while teams like the Chicago Bulls and Los Angeles Lakers might be tempting in 2014, Anthony has a lot of influence in New York and they are willing to let him build his own team in NYC in 2015.


If James and Anthony stay where they are next summer, the free agent class of 2014 takes a huge step backwards, mainly because the next tier of available guys could be the likes of Chris Bosh, Rudy Gay and potentially Brandon Jennings; none of those looks to be the franchise changers that the Lakers or the Bulls were banking on.

http://www.hoopsworld.com/nba-am-the-milwaukee-bucks-master-plan


 
Since there's already a 2014 draft thread, I thought it only reasonable to make a 2014 Free Agency thread.


There are a couple of scenario's we can look at based on what could happen this year and how that would effect our FA plans in 2014:

#1) Bynum and AV stay healthy and play up to All-Star form in 25-30 min a game in 60+ games. Irving takes the next step as a player and starts 70+ games. Waiters and Thompson progress from what they showed last season. Bennett proves to be #1 worthy and a legit stretch 4 with minutes mixed in at the 3. Karasev shows promise in limited minutes. Jack is his usual self. Brown teaches this team to play defense. This is obviously the best case scenario, but if that were to all play out the Cavs would likely find themselves seeded 4-6 in the East. If this played out, the only major move they would need is to pick up a competent piece at SF. As the Cavs currently sit, they can be at about $53 mill by getting rid of Gee and Clark's non-guaranteed contracts. If the projected cap number of $62 mill is anywhere near accurate, they'd have almost $9 mill to throw at an SF. Some guys that would be in that pay range and a great fit:

Luol Deng: If we could fit Deng under the cap with a team that featured a lineup of Irving, Waiters, Thompson, and a healthy Bynum, along with Jack, Karasev, Bennett, AV, and Zeller off the bench, that would be a squad to be reckoned with. Though Deng didn't have a good year shooting the ball last season, he shot above 34% from the 3-point line the three years prior. He could add some much needed perimeter defense, as well as more playoff experience and a little ability to stretch the floor.

Danny Granger: Obviously this hinges on him being healthy this season, but he'd be a good fit offensively and defensively. I wouldn't want to give him an extremely long deal or anything like that, but something like three years, $24 mill wouldn't be too bad. Once again, this is assuming he's healthy.

Gordon Hayward, RFA: Would really address the need for shooting on the perimeter. I'm guessing he signs an extension before he hits free agency

Chandler Parsons, RFA: Another guy that Houston will probably try to re-sign before the end of the year as they can't afford to lose him in free agency. Would be a great fit in the starting lineup.

Assuming the projected cap number was correct, they could also waive AV and clear another $9 mill giving them enough room to sign a max player. However, I think it'd be rather difficult to waive a healthy Anderson hoping you could sign a max guy.

Scenario #2
Same as before, only Bynum isn't able to bounce back from those injuries. In that case, we'd have about $21 mill to play with after waiving Bynum, Gee, and Clark. That gives us the option to pursue a max big plus a solid SF or a max SF and a solid big.

Max players potentially available next year that would fit extremely well:

Greg Monroe, RFA: This is the one that intrigues me the most. With the signing of Josh Smith, I believe Detroit threw their chances out the window of retaining Monroe and Drummond along with Knight. I don't believe that Detroit would match a max-deal on Monroe as that could really inhibit their ability to re-sign Drummond and/or Knight. I think Monroe is worth that type of money, and he would be an excellent fit with Bennett, AV, and Thompson as he can play PF or C and is versatile on offense.

Paul George, RFA: probably gets extension before hitting RFA or Indy is matching any contract offered. Either way, we'd obviously offer this guy a max deal in the slim chance Indiana doesn't match.

LeBron - duh
Melo - Semi-duh

I'll probably fill this in more as we progress through the off-season, but I just thought I'd get the topic started. What are you're thoughts?

If Carmelo saw (and this team does what you say and is what we all hope) I just realized he could really stick it to Lebron and the whole not close theme by joining CLE and immediately winning a Ring.

Otherwise I have seen the Biggest Residential Property Tax Payer I know of from the State of Ohio in the Horseshoe now twice over the last week and a half (including 2 nights ago at like 4am).
 
both are coming off a second championship in three years together, running into free agency only happens if Wade retires, which is highly unlikely, or if the wheels fall off in Miami so badly that there is no future. Neither seems likely this year, in fact Miami is still considered by most to be the front runner in the East

Um did whoever write watch the Playoffs. Wade can barely walk. He is making 22 million for the next two years. If they do not repeat (3) Lebron has every reason in the world to want to leave but hes limited in where he can. Wade won't retire until the end of his contract and the final year the Heat just won't be very good and he won't be able to play at all.

See my lengthy posts about why Lebron can really only do anything to help himself by staying in Miami or opting out to Cleveland (which would totally reverse his image and really the only viable option, and would make a ton of people a ton of money).
 

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