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Definitely agreed on what the Warriors will do. I think, as a wing defender, Kawhi is noticeably better than Durant and Iggy. Durant has done a great job playing in the post this year, though. But nonetheless, I think Kawhi is the only guy in the NBA who can effectively and consistently mitigate LeBron's offense impact.

In terms of Klay, Danny Green is just as good of a perimeter defender. So we should see how Kyrie will score in that series based on our history against the Warriors in the Finals: i.e., Kyrie will go off.



This is an interesting stat. My concern is that, if we throw TT at LMA, that means Love has to cover Dedmon... I don't think that's a killer, but it will hurt us in terms of defensive rebounding.



So the Spurs use the weave to attack switching defenses. Their goal is to get Kawhi or Aldridge on a smaller guy. Nonetheless, your point about the Warriors is well-taken, we'll have other defensive issues against Golden State.



The nice thing about switching defenses, though, is we are arguably the best team in the NBA at attacking them because of how difficult Kyrie and LeBron are to guard.

I doubt the Spurs try switching that much. Maybe they do it when Tony Parker and Pau Gasol are not in the game... But other than that, over the past few weeks, I don't see them utilize switching defenses all that frequently.

Also, one last point, LMA is actually an oddly good switch defender. Per Synergy, when LMA is switched, he only allows .836 points per possession, which is in the top 20% of NBA bigs. He's also an elite Isolation defender, allowing only .793 points per possession (top 28% in the entire NBA). Also, when the ball handler goes away from the screen and Aldridge goes over the pick (33.9% of the time), he is the best pick-and-roll defender in the NBA, allowing only .35 points per possession.

I totally agree on Pau. I doubt he plays many minutes in a series against us.



Yep, he'd be our key in this series.



Pop is trusting him more this season than last year. I think he plays major minutes in a series against us, Golden State, Houston, and/or Oklahoma City... Probably not as much against Clippers or Jazz.



I think the rebounding issue depends on who we have guard Aldridge. If Love is guarding Aldridge, and you're just willing to let Aldridge beat you, rebounding shouldn't be a huge problem. If we want to neutralize Aldridge by using TT on him, and force Love to play as our primary rebounder, it could be a big problem.

The one good thing is that the Spurs are not as reliant on offensive rebounds as we are. In a lot of situations they'll only leave one guy (Dedmon usually, but David Lee and Pau too) to try and get the rebound, and everyone else will run back to prevent transition points.

This is an awesome conversation, by the way. I'm really enjoying it!

Perhaps the greatest thing about this debate is that GS might actually have to go through the Spurs for once in the playoffs. This final stretch will be interesting to watch for Western playoff matchup purposes. Neither team wants to potentially face the Grizzlies in the first round.
 
Definitely agreed on what the Warriors will do. I think, as a wing defender, Kawhi is noticeably better than Durant and Iggy. Durant has done a great job playing in the post this year, though. But nonetheless, I think Kawhi is the only guy in the NBA who can effectively and consistently mitigate LeBron's offense impact.

In terms of Klay, Danny Green is just as good of a perimeter defender. So we should see how Kyrie will score in that series based on our history against the Warriors in the Finals: i.e., Kyrie will go off.

If we play the Warriors my only concern would be if the refs let Igoudala get away with murder on defense against LeBron as he has done the past two years. Durant can really only bother LeBron if he's able to use his length, otherwise LeBron overpowers him.

This is an interesting stat. My concern is that, if we throw TT at LMA, that means Love has to cover Dedmon... I don't think that's a killer, but it will hurt us in terms of defensive rebounding.

I guess I feel that Love is actually a better defensive rebounder than TT despite TT being superior on the offensive glass, so I think this is perfectly fine.

So the Spurs use the weave to attack switching defenses. Their goal is to get Kawhi or Aldridge on a smaller guy. Nonetheless, your point about the Warriors is well-taken, we'll have other defensive issues against Golden State.

This makes sense (running the weave to cause mismatches), I would hope we could communicate and devise a plan to mitigate the effectiveness of weaves causing the switches. At the end of the day lots of teams run plays to try to force switches, so it's something we should be used to game planning for at least.

The nice thing about switching defenses, though, is we are arguably the best team in the NBA at attacking them because of how difficult Kyrie and LeBron are to guard.

Agree, it just tends to freeze out our shooters, and when our shooters are involved and making shots is when we are most dangerous.

I doubt the Spurs try switching that much. Maybe they do it when Tony Parker and Pau Gasol are not in the game... But other than that, over the past few weeks, I don't see them utilize switching defenses all that frequently.

Also, one last point, LMA is actually an oddly good switch defender. Per Synergy, when LMA is switched, he only allows .836 points per possession, which is in the top 20% of NBA bigs. He's also an elite Isolation defender, allowing only .793 points per possession (top 28% in the entire NBA). Also, when the ball handler goes away from the screen and Aldridge goes over the pick (33.9% of the time), he is the best pick-and-roll defender in the NBA, allowing only .35 points per possession.

I totally agree on Pau. I doubt he plays many minutes in a series against us.

Interesting that LMA is that good on switches, never would have guessed that. I would still think LeBron or KI would be able to score on him pretty consistently though.

I think the rebounding issue depends on who we have guard Aldridge. If Love is guarding Aldridge, and you're just willing to let Aldridge beat you, rebounding shouldn't be a huge problem. If we want to neutralize Aldridge by using TT on him, and force Love to play as our primary rebounder, it could be a big problem.

The one good thing is that the Spurs are not as reliant on offensive rebounds as we are. In a lot of situations they'll only leave one guy (Dedmon usually, but David Lee and Pau too) to try and get the rebound, and everyone else will run back to prevent transition points.

This is an awesome conversation, by the way. I'm really enjoying it!

Repeating myself, but I think I prefer Love on Dedmon for defensive rebounding anyways. It's good that they don't send guys to the offensive boards much, particularly when you add in LeBron turning things up and probably being our best defensive rebounder in the playoffs.
 
LMA is only good as a switching defender because of Spurs defensive scheme. He consistently gets beat when he gets swtiched, it's just that he has tons of backup after he gets beaten.
Spurs are elite at packing the paint and being able to recover at the right time, every time.

Kyrie would destroy him just because he can shoot from all over the court, especially from mid range and they can't really cover him from that range.

As for Lebron, Nowadays bigs do a pretty good job on him.
 
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If we play the Warriors my only concern would be if the refs let Igoudala get away with murder on defense against LeBron as he has done the past two years. Durant can really only bother LeBron if he's able to use his length, otherwise LeBron overpowers him.

Agreed, I'd throw Draymond into that mix too. They are allowed to be really physical against LeBron and refs don't call fouls.

I guess I feel that Love is actually a better defensive rebounder than TT despite TT being superior on the offensive glass, so I think this is perfectly fine.

This is actually a really fair point that I hadn't thought of. Good call.

This makes sense (running the weave to cause mismatches), I would hope we could communicate and devise a plan to mitigate the effectiveness of weaves causing the switches. At the end of the day lots of teams run plays to try to force switches, so it's something we should be used to game planning for at least.

The Cavs usually just accept the switches to make the weave a time-suck. I think Spurs are the best in the NBA at running weave plays, though, so at best I see it giving us a bit of trouble early in the series.

Agree, it just tends to freeze out our shooters, and when our shooters are involved and making shots is when we are most dangerous.

Yep, that is a fair point. I guess I'd rather let Kyrie go one-on-one against Curry and LeBron against any of GSW's bigs than face the Spurs' defense. But I could see how it could go the other way, too.

Interesting that LMA is that good on switches, never would have guessed that. I would still think LeBron or KI would be able to score on him pretty consistently though.

His biggest weakness defensively is when the ball handler dribbles into the pick and the Spurs do not switch (allowing 1.1 points per possession). I think we could use the Kyrie-Love pick-and-roll/pop - assuming LMA guards Love - to attack Aldridge. Other than that, though, he's a damn good defender.

Repeating myself, but I think I prefer Love on Dedmon for defensive rebounding anyways. It's good that they don't send guys to the offensive boards much, particularly when you add in LeBron turning things up and probably being our best defensive rebounder in the playoffs.

Yeah, you changed my mind on this one. Also, Spurs don't really care about offensive rebounds, they'd rather go back and prevent transition offense. So you sold me on how to defend Dedmon. My bigger concern, with Dedmon anyways, is his rim protection.
 
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LMA is only good as a switching defender because of Spurs defensive scheme. He consistently gets beat when he gets swtiched, it's just that he has tons of backup after he gets beaten.
Spurs are elite at packing the paint and being able to recover at the right time, every time.

Kyrie would destroy him just because he can shoot from all over the court, especially from mid range and they can't really cover him from that range.

As for Lebron, Nowadays bigs do a pretty good job on him.
Statistics nor the eye test back this point up, though.

Per Synergy:
-.836 PPP as a switch defender on the pick-and-roll. Top 44% in NBA.

-When ball handler goes away from the pick, and Aldridge goes over it - 33.9% of the time - he is the best PnR defender in the NBA, giving up only .35 points per possession.

-As I noted in the last post, his biggest weakness is when the ball handler dribbles into a screen and the Spurs do not switch (allowing 1.1 points per possession).

-When they do switch, though, he is still effective allowing only .86 points per possession (top 27% in the NBA). This stat takes into consideration who is defending the shooter when he shoots.

I watch a lot of Spurs, and have been watching a lot more recently, Aldridge has been a great defensive player ever since coming to San Antonio. He was bad in Portland but that has changed significantly.
 
70 points for Devin Booker. Fuckin a that was crazy. Good for him.
 
Holy Fucking Shit!

He took 40 FGs and had 26 FTs but still 70 points for a 20 year old is straight-up bonkers!
 
Wow, Holy Shit... 70 points.
 
70 points for Devin Booker. Fuckin a that was crazy. Good for him.

Sad a guy like Booker can get to the line 26 times. And it'd take Kyrie about 8 games to get to the line that much, with the lack of calls he gets.

But either way, hell of a game for him.
 
Sad a guy like Booker can get to the line 26 times. And it'd take Kyrie about 8 games to get to the line that much, with the lack of calls he gets.

But either way, hell of a game for him.

LeBron and Kyrie combined would have never gone to the line that much since LeBron came back here lmao!
 
70-8-6 is a better line than Kobe's 81.
 
26 FTs??????? When was the last time LeBron got 20+ FT's in a game?
 

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