2016 College Football Season/Playoff Thread

[tristan+kyrie=$]

So anyone on here going to Glendale for the buckeye game? Also where is the place to look for the cheapest possible flights? Willing to fly from Columbus or Cleveland

 

[Chris]

Nah, but I'll be going to Tampa if they make it. Still mad I missed out on 2014.

 

[Ohio]

Nah, but I'll be going to Tampa if they make it.

Me too

 

[Ohio]

I do. Actually, I think Michigan and Penn State are both better than Washington. Penn State is also on fire right now; that has to count for something when making a statement like that.

I agree about Michigan, but not Penn State.

Truth be told, I think Michigan is a top four team. I was a little bit surprised to see Penn State jump them in the rankings, but I do understand it was by virtue of that conference championship holding more weight than an embarrassing head-to-head loss.

Agreed, but putting them in over Washington would be pretty hard to justify.

But, it is what it is. I know some or all won't agree with me. @BimboColesHair has already made some good arguments against some of my other posts in this thread. And maybe he's right, maybe they do hang tough with that offense of theirs. I just don't think it's going to happen.

I think Washington has a chance because their secondary is very good. Bama's offense as a whole is not good.

I certainly expect Bama to win, but I'm thinking it may be closer to a 10 point differential instead of 20+. We'll see.

 

[Rich]

I'm certainly more open to Penn State being better than Washington than before. They showed a ton of offensive talent against Wisconsin. Big time players at WR. I think they'll beat USC.

 

[MoFlo]

Do Michigan and Penn State have a case of being "better" than Washington? Sure.

However, the committee was never going to put a 2 loss team in over a 1 loss team, especially since both Michigan and Penn State lost to an 8-4 team.

 

[Rich]

Do Michigan and Penn State have a case of being "better" than Washington? Sure.

However, the committee was never going to put a 2 loss team in over a 1 loss team, especially since both Michigan and Penn State lost to an 8-4 team.

Well, I hope the committee continues to evolve on the very simplistic way to look at things. They showed some development this year.

Yes, losing to an 8-4 Pittsburgh team isn't good...but that team is way, way, way better than any team Washington played in the non-conference. Penn State has two wins over teams that are both way, way better than any of Washington's wins. When I look at the two teams resumes, I don't think they are close. Penn State's is better.

Now, I can listen if the committee says Penn State getting blown out by 40 just makes it hard to argue they are one of the four best. Fine. But the 2 losses vs 1 loss thing just helps push the idea that teams should avoid taking risks in the non-conference.

 

[Wulfgar1224]

Well, I hope the committee continues to evolve on the very simplistic way to look at things. They showed some development this year.

Yes, losing to an 8-4 Pittsburgh team isn't good...but that team is way, way, way better than any team Washington played in the non-conference. Penn State has two wins over teams that are both way, way better than any of Washington's wins. When I look at the two teams resumes, I don't think they are close. Penn State's is better.

Now, I can listen if the committee says Penn State getting blown out by 40 just makes it hard to argue they are one of the four best. Fine. But the 2 losses vs 1 loss thing just helps push the idea that teams should avoid taking risks in the non-conference.

I have some empathy for PSU. I think that they should've been in the playoff over UW. But, the committee boxed themselves in with the penultimate rankings by having UW ahead of PSU. UW blew out Colorado so it made it impossible for PSU to be placed in there at that point since leapfrogging them would have been illogical.

 

[Cavsfan1985]

Well, I hope the committee continues to evolve on the very simplistic way to look at things. They showed some development this year.

Yes, losing to an 8-4 Pittsburgh team isn't good...but that team is way, way, way better than any team Washington played in the non-conference. Penn State has two wins over teams that are both way, way better than any of Washington's wins. When I look at the two teams resumes, I don't think they are close. Penn State's is better.

Now, I can listen if the committee says Penn State getting blown out by 40 just makes it hard to argue they are one of the four best. Fine. But the 2 losses vs 1 loss thing just helps push the idea that teams should avoid taking risks in the non-conference.

I disagree. If OSU does not play OK I don't think they get in with one loss. You would have had a PSU or OK get in.

 

[Rich]

I disagree. If OSU does not play OK I don't think they get in with one loss. You would have had a PSU or OK get in.

Yes, but that's (most likely) ONLY because Penn State had two losses. What if Penn State just went cupcake city and played some bullshit FCS team instead of Pitt? See, that's kinda my point.

Yea, Ohio State got rewarded for their schedule, but what if Penn State had just went ultra-easy and then ended the season with only 1 loss? I still think we actually encourage taking the easiest road possible by making such a huge deal out of 1 loss vs. 2 loss when the quality of schedules are so vastly, vastly different. Like in the case of Penn State and Washington.

 

[SixPACK]

Nah, but I'll be going to Tampa if they make it. Still mad I missed out on 2014.

Me too

Me 3

 

[Cavsfan1985]

Yes, but that's (most likely) ONLY because Penn State had two losses. What if Penn State just went cupcake city and played some bullshit FCS team instead of Pitt? See, that's kinda my point.

Yea, Ohio State got rewarded for their schedule, but what if Penn State had just went ultra-easy and then ended the season with only 1 loss? I still think we actually encourage taking the easiest road possible by making such a huge deal out of 1 loss vs. 2 loss when the quality of schedules are so vastly, vastly different. Like in the case of Penn State and Washington.

I agree. But if PSU was a 1 loss team with an easy schedule they might have been in over Washington just based on the fact the B10 was the best conference. Either-way, OSU has a hard time making the case getting in with only one loss if it did not have OK on its schedule. Also lets not forget this was the first year the B10 went to a 9 game league schedule. This will help. Now only the SEC and ACC only have 8 game league schedules. Both of those conferences have to have a good non conference.

Also, until they make the conference champ the best 2 teams, it still is hard to me say a conference champ carries that much more weight then non.

 

[col63onel]

I think the Big 10 goes undefeated in Bowl play.

I'd be shocked.

First of all, with having 4 teams in the NY6 bowls, we're spreading the conference thin, and the conference was more top heavy. Outside of the top 4, the next best teams are Nebraska, Iowa, Minnesota and NW, and 2 of them lost to FCS schools. On top of that, the B1G has basically 4 road games (USC @ Pasadena, Florida @ Tampa, FSU @ Miami, Tennessee @ Nashville).

Shooting for 5-5, excluding a possible 2nd playoff game for OSU. 2-2 in the NY6 and 3-3 elsewhere is fine. If we go 3-1 or 4-0 in the NY6, then it's a good bowl season almost regardless of what the rest of the conference does. 7-3 is probably the best realistic record we can expect.

 

[Ohio]

They showed a ton of offensive talent against Wisconsin. Big time players at WR.

Wisconsin's secondary was an utter disaster in that game.

 

[TheLand1287]

Some great looking matchups for the playoff and NY6, but even down the line there are some pretty intriguing bowl games this year. The positive of ESPN owning/operating so many of the bowls is they have the power to work around some conference tie-in's to provide more intriguing games. A few that stood out to me...

Houston vs San Diego State
Appalachian State vs Toledo
Memphis vs Western Kentucky
Louisiana Tech vs Navy
BYU vs Wyoming

All pretty solid "lesser tier" bowls featuring quality group of 5 teams.

Boise State vs Baylor
Temple vs Wake Forest
South Florida vs South Carolina

Couple of double digit win group of 5 teams playing average power 5 teams.