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Embiid looks like he’s going to put up a GamesScore of 50+ and Simmons 30+. Going to have to search later, but I doubt there’s been many as statistically dominant games by a duo regardless of age.

Embiid is a generational talent because he affects both sides of the ball.

Looks like Simmons might be one, two.

Ingram looks like he might finally show something. The NBA is more talented now than it ever has been and it’s not even close to being close.

46 Points
14 Rebounds
7 Assist
7 Blocks

I'm almost positive that's only been done a handful of times ever.
 
Not that I was alone in this, but I do feel vindicated when it comes to Embiid.
 
Not that I was alone in this, but I do feel vindicated when it comes to Embiid.

I hated the news of that draft season. I was so mad about it as I knew he would become great. Yes it ended up very well for Cavs fans but at the time I was like thank god Wiggins was there or I would have said typical Cleveland luck. I still wanted to take him with the injury though.
 
Not that I was alone in this, but I do feel vindicated when it comes to Embiid.

There was only about 5 of us left on here after we red flagged his injuries who still wanted to draft him.
 
They beat the Wizards last year after they beat The Bulls. You seem to ignore that like it didn't happen.

They barely beat the Wizards. Got carried by IT and Kelly Olynyk in key games. Beal and Wall also missed open game-winners multiple times. Easily could have lost the series. It was an extremely even series.

I think they could absolutely beat the Wiz again, but it wouldn't take much to tilt that series the other way. They're also relying on a rookie and a 2nd year guy. Now credit to both, they're killing it, but are they ready to be difference makers in the playoffs? Maybe, maybe not.

Totally different team. So far it's lead to a very strong first 15 games. Nothing more, nothing less. I still think they're a super flawed team with an even worse bench than they had last year.



You're being really emotional about Kyrie like he hurt you or something. You keep making this about LeBron and getting some revenge on Kyrie. You refuse to give BOS any credit at all from clearly being the best team in the league right now.
Not emotional at all. I'm allowed to state my opinion on them without being emotional. I'm willing to back it up monetarily.

And Boston is not "clearly the best team in the league" right now. Having the best record over 15 games doesn't make them the best team in the league. You have them ahead of the Warriors even?

I'm not sure what your infatuation with Kyrie is. If you have some personal connection or whatever, I dunno. But defending his honor and the Celtics at every opportunity and spinning it off as some kind of objective perspective makes me wonder why you're even on the board in the first place. Plenty of others have noticed it as well. Or maybe it's just all about the anti-LeBron hill you're apparently trying to die on. I dunno.

LeBron doesn't need revenge on the mind to slap the Celtics around in the playoffs, again. It just might change the degree to which it happens is all I was saying.

Like it or not they are really good right now and it matters

It doesn't matter any more or less than their performance over any other 15 game stretch this year. Until they prove me wrong I have them pegged as regular season overachievers and playoff roadkill. If you think they'll prove me wrong, fine. Let's at least make it fun and profitable for RCF then. Again, I'm willing to back what I say up with some cash. No problem. Adds to the fun.

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You're banking on us getting better like BOS won't get better as well.

I really don't think Boston is going to play at a 13-2 pace all year, and they certainly won't get "better" than 13-2. You think they're going to win 65 games? 60 even? I don't. Not that it would change anything. The 14-15 Hawks won 60. Didn't do them much good.


They aren't even shooting as good as they should and Kyrie has yet to hit his groove.
Kyrie is pretty much producing like Kyrie has been producing for the last 3 years. Not sure what "groove" you're expecting him to hit that's so much greater than what he's doing now? His efficiency could tick up slightly...but that's about it unless he takes a leap.

And they're not shooting as good as they should? Really? Al Horford is shooting almost 50% from 3. Tatum is shooting almost 50% from 3. Jaylen Brown is at 37% (up from 34). I'd say they're pretty much shooting as well as they could have possibly hoped to shoot at any point this year. I think Horford and Tatum will regress to the low 40's for sure.

Meanwhile we have been an average at best team so far but we are getting the benefit of the doubt only because of LeBron.
And the fact that we've beaten Boston, Milwaukee, Washington and lost to mostly bad teams thanks to a total lack of effort. We've been pretty damn good when we've wanted to be so far this year.



I'm sorry but it's going to take more than LeBron to beat them.
Maybe? Maybe not.

We are struggling nighty to beat bad teams but you think we could beat the best team in the league in a series right now without IT?

We're struggling to beat bad teams and STILL didn't have much of a problem handling the class of the East, out of shape, with multiple injuries.

And they're not the best team in the league. Even if we go by a fair objective measure of point differential they're not the best team in the league.


That's being a real homer there. Just admit that The Celtics are good and you don't like Kyrie.

I'd rather be considered a homer than whatever the hell you're trying to be. Honestly, I'm not sure what to call it, but the fact that you pretend to be objective when you have a clear and obvious narrative you're trying to spin with 90% of your posts is a joke. Don't throw stones from a glass house, bud.

1. Fuck Kyrie. Don't like him.
2. The Celtics are good in the context of the regular season, they're even a lot better than I thought they were going to be. I will give them that. Though I've already said that and it was ignored and glossed over as is par for the course, but whatever. They also doing a good job setting up to eventually take over the east. But in terms of who the class of the Eastern conference is for this year and this year only, the Celtics are not on the same tier that the Cavaliers are.
 
Not that I was alone in this, but I do feel vindicated when it comes to Embiid.
I really thought Wiggins was going to be the next McGrady....He's good, but yea Embiid is a monster.
 
To put into perspective how unique a talent Embiid is:

In the last 33 years, NO PLAYER has had 7 blocks, 2 threes made, and 7 assists in a game. None.

Then you add 46 points in only 34 minutes.
 
I really thought Wiggins was going to be the next McGrady....He's good, but yea Embiid is a monster.

You NEVER pass on a big with his skill set and talent. He was the next "The DREAM" to me he was that good with a shot. His injury was for sure and still is a risk but that is a risk worth taking. Wiggins was next best thing and he is doing well. Park was another Melo type and blah so Embiid was the man and glad to see him doing well. The 76ers got something good cooking.
 
No. He doesn't come back to Cleveland without the talent in place. No Kyrie, no Love, no LeBron.

Okay...I just said that though???? Clearly spelled it out even.

I'm just saying the extra powerful incentive to go to Cleveland was there. Yes, Kyrie and the #1 pick made it POSSIBLE for that incentive to be fulfilled. But that same incentive simply doesn't exist for Philly. Not sure how that's even arguable.

And as for injuries, yes Kyrie and Love weren't pillars of health, but there's a difference between their health issues and Embiid's health issues. Massive, huge difference.

And still don't see how Bron and Simmons fit together. Feel like Simmons would end up marginalized and possibly upset. They could eventually make it work but does LBJ have time at 33 going on 34 to work a complicated issue like that out with a 2nd year player? I dunno.


If Embiid and Simmons play 70-75 games, the Sixers make the playoffs and maybe even make some noise, and can line up a trade for Fultz to get them an all-star...that would be the only way I'd give them more than a miniscule chance of landing Bron.
 
Okay...I just said that though???? Clearly spelled it out even.

I'm just saying the extra powerful incentive to go to Cleveland was there. Yes, Kyrie and the #1 pick made it POSSIBLE for that incentive to be fulfilled. But that same incentive simply doesn't exist for Philly. Not sure how that's even arguable.

And as for injuries, yes Kyrie and Love weren't pillars of health, but there's a difference between their health issues and Embiid's health issues. Massive, huge difference.

And still don't see how Bron and Simmons fit together. Feel like Simmons would end up marginalized and possibly upset. They could eventually make it work but does LBJ have time at 33 going on 34 to work a complicated issue like that out with a 2nd year player? I dunno.

They would have to trade us Simmons somehow to even make it work for them as you are right they are the same player basically one better at this point of course by far LeBron. Now if we trade Bron keep the Pick and get a Ayton or Bagley things could get interesting assuming LeBron would even even want to go there. It is good for fantasy thought or a NBA 2k move but not in real life. Bron would never go there as I am sure he would have nothing to prove by making that move.
 
From what I've seen, not quite.

I agree with this. He is good and could be a star, he is lacking that it factor as of now. He could work hard to reach Embiid like status but the crazy thing is Embiid only started playing at 16... Look at him now as he just gots it.
 

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