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2017-2018 Boston Celtics: No Irving! No Hayward! No Brooklyn Pick!

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Regrade the finalized trade

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Anyone with doubts about how Kyrie has ALWAYS felt about LBJ should go to 3:45 of this vid. We all remember the game. Watch Kyrie after LBJ gets hacked on the dunk attempt by Draymond. First thing Kyrie does? Helps up Draymond. (He admittedly didn't see LBJ was hurt at this point.) Next thing he does? Hangs out at the 3 point line while the entire Cavs bench runs over to see if James is ok. I remember when it happened thinking WTF?

View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XcXDP3vK1r0


In defense of Kyrie, 1. LBJ is a megalomaniac who is probably a dick as a teammate, 2. LBJ flops as hard as anyone in the NBA, and 3. Kyrie was probably pissed because every one of the last 6 possessions of that game should have started with him. This is obviously just a snapshot, but that's a recipe for wanting to GTFO. Unfortunately for him, every interview he does between now and next year's playoffs is another nail in his coffin. You don't piss off LBJ.
 
Anyone with doubts about how Kyrie has ALWAYS felt about LBJ should go to 3:45 of this vid. We all remember the game. Watch Kyrie after LBJ gets hacked on the dunk attempt by Draymond. First thing Kyrie does? Helps up Draymond. (He admittedly didn't see LBJ was hurt at this point.) Next thing he does? Hangs out at the 3 point line while the entire Cavs bench runs over to see if James is ok. I remember when it happened thinking WTF?

View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XcXDP3vK1r0


In defense of Kyrie, 1. LBJ is a megalomaniac who is probably a dick as a teammate, 2. LBJ flops as hard as anyone in the NBA, and 3. Kyrie was probably pissed because every one of the last 6 possessions of that game should have started with him. This is obviously just a snapshot, but that's a recipe for wanting to GTFO. Unfortunately for him, every interview he does between now and next year's playoffs is another nail in his coffin. You don't piss off LBJ.
I have been telling people to watch this for over a year. Enough said with this video.
 
In a nutshell, he wasn't happy and supposedly wants to do more with the ball besides dribble the air out of it (which i don't believe) . He made it seem like that was his only role on the team but we all clearly saw his bad habits even when Lebron wasn't on the floor with him. He's not all of a sudden gonna change his way of playing the game.

Sounded like to me that he didn't like Lebron or Lue.

Its easy to say that u just wanted a change of scenery, even if that was a lie. I'll take that over the circle-talking mumbo jumbo that he was on today. He comes across as phony which makes it worse.
 
Kyrie will only be truly happy once he finds his true calling and passion.















Which is being a combo guard for the Globetrotters.
 
There was another moment I remember seeing when the Cavs were finishing the ECF last year.
Kyrie was trying to pump up Lebron on the bench cause they were about to go back to the Finals, but Bron looked like he could care less. Now it makes more sense.
 
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Anyone with doubts about how Kyrie has ALWAYS felt about LBJ should go to 3:45 of this vid. We all remember the game. Watch Kyrie after LBJ gets hacked on the dunk attempt by Draymond. First thing Kyrie does? Helps up Draymond. (He admittedly didn't see LBJ was hurt at this point.) Next thing he does? Hangs out at the 3 point line while the entire Cavs bench runs over to see if James is ok. I remember when it happened thinking WTF?

View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XcXDP3vK1r0


In defense of Kyrie, 1. LBJ is a megalomaniac who is probably a dick as a teammate, 2. LBJ flops as hard as anyone in the NBA, and 3. Kyrie was probably pissed because every one of the last 6 possessions of that game should have started with him. This is obviously just a snapshot, but that's a recipe for wanting to GTFO. Unfortunately for him, every interview he does between now and next year's playoffs is another nail in his coffin. You don't piss off LBJ.

I liked the part right after that....


The long hug between Irving and James at 2:31....
 
What a weird dude. Preaches how mature he's become, then questions Max's knowledge because he hasn't watched as much basketball as Kyrie. Dances around questions, refuses to say LeBron's name.... he tries so hard to sound smart and like he's some deep thinker to the media.. just strange

Looks like Kyrie went to the Richard Sherman school of ass-hattery.

1. Go to school with strong reputation for academics.
2. Learn nothing.
3. Pretend, or convince yourself that you did learn things.
4. Use as many 3-4 syllable words as you can, even if you don't know what they mean.
5. Be a douche on First Take, to the extent that you somehow come off worse than people who are literally PAID to be asshats.
 
Well, here's his chance to win without LeBron.

Kyrie on court per 100 possessions:

2012: -5.1 per 100 on court
2013: -4.8 per 100 on court
2014: -5.1 per 100 on court
2015-2017: -4.4 per 100 on court without LeBron (-2.6 with Love and no LeBron)

He's never outscored opponents over the course of a season other than when on court with LeBron. LeBron was +10.6 per 100 without Kyrie over the last three regular+ post seasons.
 
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Man that First Take interview was brutal. No wonder he rarely does interviews. Sounded like a fucking idiot deflecting questions and using big words that don't go together at all lol.
 
How far they fallen

Has to go to first take in order to get publicity
 
I don't understand Kyrie's reasoning



"I want to come off pick and rolls and dissect the defense"

"I want to be an all around PG on a great team"




Ummm bitch so you want to do exactly what you did in Cleveland? Tell the truth dude you don't wanna play with LeBron. Kyrie coming off like a soft bitch throughout all of this.

Don't tell us it's not what we all know it is when everyone can see it is.
 
The left is pushing Durant... That is all.
 
A smug Kyrie Irving doesn't care that he never notified LeBron James of trade demand: Bill Livingston (photos)
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Updated on September 19, 2017 at 7:52 AMPosted on September 19, 2017 at 6:05 AM

By Bill Livingston, The Plain Dealer

blivingston@plaind.com

CLEVELAND, Ohio - Kyrie Irving did not pause in his television interview with Stephen A. Smith on Monday to look at the camera, raise an uncomplimentary finger, and say,"This one is for you, LeBron."

But the ex-Cleveland Cavalier, current Boston Celtic, and full-time admirer of the wonderfulness of himself came very close to it.

A smirking KyMe said he didn't tip James off to his trade demand because of his insufficiency of spotlight command, saw no reason why he should have, and, basically, didn't give a damn how James felt about it.

Grievances? What grievances?

It's hard to know what twisted Irving into such a misshapen distortion of the "true point guard" he claims he wants to be in Boston. He was all offense here. Irving's lax defense was tolerated. James distributed the ball more effectively and willingly.

Indeed, James:

  • Openly forecast that Irving could some day become an NBA Most Valuable Player.
  • Took fewer shots last season during the regular season and barely more in the playoffs than Irving.
  • Willingly deferred to Irving the final minute of the seventh game of the NBA Finals so the tie-breaking play could be run, not for James, but for his teammate.
It resulted in Irving's championship-winning step-back 3-pointer over Steph Curry.

Warning signs

That shot will live forever even if the maker of it -- blessed as he was with almost undreamed-of ingenuity around the basket, along with mid-range accuracy and 3-point back-breakers -- was cursed with a megalomania he could never quite suppress.

Signs of resentment popped up from time to time of the point guard's belief that too meager measures of adoration went to him.

At the end of a tight playoff game in Detroit in 2015, Irving waited for a pass in the side court from James, who was dribbling the clock down in the middle of the floor, then rolled his eyes in exasperation and sulked off to the corner after James' directed him to go there.

That was the series during which Irving proclaimed that the Cavs had "two of the best closers in basketball" on their team, himself and the guy who was called a king.

No. 2 on the roster, No.1 in attitude

Knowing what we know now, Irving's very number - 2 -- was the biggest problem of a man who wanted only the best for No. 1.

It's not enough to paint Irving as just one case of self-absorption in an epidemic of me-firsters who have been assured since AAU ball of their place in the basketball firmament.

It is a matter of what Irving threw away in the interest of self-aggrandizement.

Irving left behind the consensus best player in the world as a teammate; forsook a team that had been to three straight NBA Finals and won an NBA championship; stiffed a coach in Ty Lue who did not mind KyMe's no-pass, one-touch, 10-second possessions; bailed on fans who treated James, Kevin Love and KyMe like a triumvirate of Roman rulers after their seventh-game, final-minutes plays; then trolled his old team ceaselessly since the season ended.

It is a shame that it ended so badly. Irving was here for six years, so it is not as if he was a mercenary passing through.

Perhaps the animosity he has created will fade. But for now, the season-opener at The Q against Boston will be a regular season game with intensity unmatched except for the Golden State rivalry.

Irving thought he deserved more from Cleveland. The reverse was true.
 
"A smirking KyMe said he didn't tip James off to his trade demand because of his insufficiency of spotlight command, saw no reason why he should have, and, basically, didn't give a damn how James felt about it."

That makes for a good chant at the Q:

"Kyyyyyyyyyyy Meeeeeeeeee. Kyyyyyyyyyyyy Meeeeeeeeeeee. Kyyyyyyyyyy Meeeeeeeeeeee."
 

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