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Regrade the finalized trade

  • A+

    Votes: 20 8.0%

  • A

    Votes: 70 27.9%

  • B

    Votes: 74 29.5%

  • C

    Votes: 39 15.5%

  • D

    Votes: 18 7.2%

  • F

    Votes: 30 12.0%
  • Total voters
    251
I'd argue that Horford fouled (legit) Harden on his drive to the hoop as well.

Oh well. Hard to feel sorry for him.
 
FritzLn said:
and we give refs shit
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I actually still kinda understand why the refs called it that way.

It was definitely not actually a foul on Harden. Like....that would probably not get called 95% of the time in 95% of situations by 95% of refs. But it was against Boston, in Boston, with Tony Brothers. Was just how things worked out.

It was definitely somewhat the NBA continuing to coddle the Celtics at every opportunity. Some teams are allowed to defend more physically than others...and the Celtics are probably at the very top of that list.

But Harden definitely didn't do himself any favors visually. The refs were obviously looking for someone to give them a reason and Harden extending the arm despite not actually pushing Smart gave Brothers all the reason he needed to give the Celtics the ball.
 
The Kyrie MVP train is... no longer off the rails.
 
czvo said:
The Kyrie MVP train is... no longer off the rails.
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Huh????????? Because of one game against Houston?

His numbers still aren’t anywhere near MVP worthy and the Celts are barely holding onto the top seed at the moment.

Hell, he wasn’t even that special tonight. It was a solid game but hardly MVP worthy. Smart/Tatum/Horford were the crunch time heroes too.

That’s a train that never belonged on the tracks in the first place.
 
InBoobieWeTrust said:
Huh????????? Because of one game against Houston?

His numbers still aren’t anywhere near MVP worthy and the Celts are barely holding onto the top seed at the moment.

Hell, he wasn’t even that special tonight. It was a solid game but hardly MVP worthy. Smart/Tatum/Horford were the crunch time heroes too.

That’s a train that never belonged on the tracks in the first place.
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I don't know, man... first in the east, wins over gs, houston, sas, and okc. The more they win, the less crazy it looks.

If the Rockets fall off some more, and the Cavs do their typical Cavs thing... who else wins it? Maybe KD if he keeps playing like this, I guess.
 
czvo said:
I don't know, man... first in the east, wins over gs, houston, sas, and okc. The more they win, the less crazy it looks.

If the Rockets fall off some more, and the Cavs do their typical Cavs thing... who else wins it? Maybe KD if he keeps playing like this, I guess.
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I haven’t even heard him mentioned since the Celtics started struggling. His D has fallen off a cliff completely and the Celts have been a much worse team the last month or so. Before tonight their D has been 18th in the NBA since the end of the winning streak, for example.

Even the token #5 votes I saw earlier have all been removed ever since the Celts started to slide. They were lucky to win tonight and lucky Paul and a Capela were out as well as Harden losing his cool.

By the trade deadline I would be surprised if the Celts hadn’t fallen to like the 3 seed.

I think you’re majorly over reacting to one weird ass game. Big time. His numbers aren’t there and record won’t be either(they’d need to win at least 60 games and Bron and Harden would have to get hurt, which I don’t think is in the cards)
 
InBoobieWeTrust said:
I haven’t even heard him mentioned since the Celtics started struggling. His D has fallen off a cliff completely and the Celts have been a much worse team the last month or so. Before tonight their D has been 18th in the NBA since the end of the winning streak, for example.

Even the token #5 votes I saw earlier have all been removed ever since the Celts started to slide. They were lucky to win tonight and lucky Paul and a Capela were out as well as Harden losing his cool.

By the trade deadline I would be surprised if the Celts hadn’t fallen to like the 3 seed.

I think you’re majorly over reacting to one weird ass game. Big time. His numbers aren’t there and record won’t be either(they’d need to win at least 60 games and Bron and Harden would have to get hurt, which I don’t think is in the cards)
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I'm not overreacting to this game. I didn't even watch it
 
czvo said:
I'm not overreacting to this game. I didn't even watch it
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I didn’t think he was a real MVP candidate at the beginning of December but they’re 7-6 in their last 13 and Kyries D has been as bad as ever in that stretch.His offense has actually been really good and the fact it’s coinciding with them struggling is telling, IMO. I just don’t think he ever had a case and the small one he did have has basically had the wind taken out of its sails by the last 3 weeks.
 
InBoobieWeTrust said:
I didn’t think he was a real MVP candidate at the beginning of December but they’re 7-6 in their last 13 and Kyries D has been as bad as ever in that stretch.His offense has actually been really good and the fact it’s coinciding with them struggling is telling, IMO. I just don’t think he ever had a case and the small one he did have has basically had the wind taken out of its sails by the last 3 weeks.
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I didn't think he was either. You and I were in here agreeing left and right.

But if they get to 60 wins, which is plausible, and the top of the west is a jumble, and the Cavs are their normal 50-win selves... he'll have a strong case just because of the narrative.
 
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