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2017 Browns Off Season Thread

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Happy to offer you a gentleman's bet that at least seven defensive backs will get more snaps than whoever the Browns third linebacker ends up being.

I'll take it as well.

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Tank Carder has been playing on goal line and short yardage sets somewhat effectively for a while now.

Being serious for a second, Tank showing value to as many coaches/front offices as he has in Cleveland is nothing short of remarkable. He clearly brings something to the table & it's valued. The Bills drafted him in the 5th round and I'd bet they wouldn't mind still having him around now.

Still, it's funny for me to think about Tank the same way I think it's funny (and remarkable) how Chris Tabor remains employed by the Browns. Tabor has been here since just after the 2010-11 season & Tank has been with the Browns since just after roster cuts in 2012! That's unheard of for this organization. :chuckle:
 
Drive up that trade value... From.... Nothing.
 
Between the OSU Basketball, Indians, & Cavs threads...

The Browns are like our pot o' gold at the end of the rainbow right now!

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Happy to offer you a gentleman's bet that at least seven defensive backs will get more snaps than whoever the Browns third linebacker ends up being.

I would take that bet on this season just because of the fact our DB as a unit isn't strong, but I know in a year or two it would be stupid to take it. I just feel we have slightly better LBs overall than DBs overall.
 
Tyvis Powell waived. Sucks as I, and I'm sure others were rooting for him and we all heard about how many Seahawks were disappointed to see him go. However, its probably a good thing as the coaches are evidently feeling good about the additions of McCourty, Pryor, and Peppers.
 
The article below and in the quote box was pretty interesting as we go into mandatory veteran mini-camp week. While each point/player mentioned is interesting, I noticed a few things..

1) Jordan Payton isn't mentioned to be in the mix for snaps at WR. He was suspended towards the end of the year last season, but I believe he's eligible to return. Makes me wonder whether he has an opportunity to make the roster.

2) The Pryor & Peppers competition is going to be interesting. You clearly want the first-rounder Peppers to prove his worth and provide effective snaps earlier than later. I sense Pryor, should he make the team, will serve as a good hedge and will allow for more versatility. Would like to see both players blossom into contributors.

3) Shon Coleman is noted to be a great run blocker. We saw a glimpse last season, but he's going to be asked to handle the duty of a regular every-down lineman now. Does he have the conditioning to handle NFL pass-rushers for an entire game? The article seems to hint that Ogbah is giving him a hard time in pass-blocking situations. Doesn't hurt to practice against that monster.

http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news...minicamp/9e4e35bd-5119-4176-9e4b-c73d03759366

Three practices separate Browns players from their summer vacation.

The grand finale to Cleveland’s offseason workout program commences Tuesday, when the Browns converge for their first of three mandatory practices. It’s the closest thing to training camp -- without pads, of course -- before the start of training camp, which is set for sometime at the end of July.

It’s an important period for every single member of the Browns’ 90-man roster. Jobs aren’t won or lost at this point of the offseason, but impressions are formed. Here are five players (and a few more) who have a particularly interesting storyline heading into this three-day camp.

QB DeShone Kizer - The second-round rookie has been working under the close eye of Hue Jackson, who has worked with a number of talented quarterbacks at this early stage of their respective careers. Kizer’s had his ups and downs throughout OTAs, and that was to be expected. How he’s responded from mistakes has been a point of praise from Jackson and a point of pride from Kizer. This week will give him a great amount of material to build off and apply toward his offseason training.

WRs Ricardo Louis, Rashard Higgins and Rannell Hall - The opportunities for serious snaps have been there throughout OTAs, as both Kenny Britt and Corey Coleman have been sidelined with minor injuries. It’s unclear how active either Britt or Coleman will be next week, but, regardless, it’s an important time for Louis, Higgins and Hall, who are looking to land a spot in the regular rotation at wide receiver. Of the three, Louis carries the most experience, as he served as a starter during Coleman’s absence last season. Higgins picked up snaps as a big slot receiver during the later portion of the season while Hall, who was acquired late in 2015, missed all of 2016 with an injury he suffered in the first preseason game. Even when Britt and Coleman are 100 percent healthy, there should be room for at least a couple of these players in Cleveland’s wide receiver rotation.

DB Jason McCourty - The veteran has fit in nicely as a cornerback so far, working behind the first group of Joe Haden and Jamar Taylor. Where he will be playing a few months from now remains a tad uncertain, and perhaps next week will provide some more insight. McCourty has never played safety in the NFL, but he remains open to the possibility. The end result might have more to do with the players competing at safety than it does McCourty, as Jackson has made it clear that he and defensive coordinator Gregg Williams are looking to put the four or five best defensive backs on the field, regardless of position.

DBs Calvin Pryor and Jabrill Peppers - The newest Browns defensive back and the first-round selection give Williams some versatile options at the back end of the defense. Both are hard hitters who are built like prototypical strong safeties and, as of Tuesday, had not been on the field at the same time as each other. That, of course, could change, as Peppers provides Williams with incredible versatility while Pryor could be used much differently by Cleveland than he was with the Jets. “It’s the same as we have been going. We just added an extra guy to the mix now,” Peppers said. “We are making it all about competition. They want the best guys out there. Calvin is a hell of a player so we are going to see how things go.”

OL Shon Coleman - He’s been first in line at the Browns’ open right tackle job and the test will continue over the next week. Most often, Coleman has been lined up across from Emmanuel Ogbah, who has challenged the second-year lineman’s pass protection ability. Coleman, though, will have to be equally efficient as a run blocker for a Cleveland offense that plans to feed the ball to Isaiah Crowell and Duke Johnson Jr. on a regular basis. Coleman’s top competition for the job appears to be Cameron Erving, the former first-round pick who has played at a variety of positions along the offensive line.
 
The article below and in the quote box was pretty interesting as we go into mandatory veteran mini-camp week. While each point/player mentioned is interesting, I noticed a few things..

1) Jordan Payton isn't mentioned to be in the mix for snaps at WR. He was suspended towards the end of the year last season, but I believe he's eligible to return. Makes me wonder whether he has an opportunity to make the roster.

2) The Pryor & Peppers competition is going to be interesting. You clearly want the first-rounder Peppers to prove his worth and provide effective snaps earlier than later. I sense Pryor, should he make the team, will serve as a good hedge and will allow for more versatility. Would like to see both players blossom into contributors.

3) Shon Coleman is noted to be a great run blocker. We saw a glimpse last season, but he's going to be asked to handle the duty of a regular every-down lineman now. Does he have the conditioning to handle NFL pass-rushers for an entire game? The article seems to hint that Ogbah is giving him a hard time in pass-blocking situations. Doesn't hurt to practice against that monster.

http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/article-5/5-players-to-watch-at-Browns’-veteran-minicamp/9e4e35bd-5119-4176-9e4b-c73d03759366


It felt like to me, after what happened to Payton last season, he would be cut/maybe put onto the practice squad. Zegura loves Hall and it seems like Hall will be the 5th receiver over Payton. We shalll see in due time though who wins out.

Honestly the camp battle to me of Coleman and Erving is one to watch since that is the only position on that line that isn't set and Erving this is last chance in a Browns uniform to start. Guys like Ogbah should be able to help whoever is at RT get better. Our DLine just went from not so great last season, to a sleeper this season since we end up having so much young talent added this season and one of our old guys back on it in Bryant. We will end up with 9 DLine guys after the final cut more than likely there.

Davis for Pryor trade may end up being a steal for us, if he lives up to his talent he had getting drafted in the 1st round. If not we didn't give up anything for him, but maybe he was a missing link in our weaker secondary we needed for this season and if he does well, we can ty to keep Pryor long term.
 

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